Any Christian fans of Legend of Korra?

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I realize I am a bit late to respond to this, but I want to point out that monasticism in the Eastern religions (which essentially means Buddhism) is a temporary state - at least in some traditions - and is not connected with the idea of permanent celibacy. A person will live in a monastery for a few years as a way of gaining wisdom and maturity, before getting married and proceeding to raise a family. In some traditions a person can even be married and live in a monastery at the same time.
True. Remember, Roku even mentioned to Aang that being the Avatar doesn’t hurt when it comes to the ladies while the two were watching Roku’s wedding, reminding the audience of the fact that it was established in the first episode that Aang had a crush on Katara.

And even in the finale episode where Aang spoke with his past lives about whether or not he should kill Ozai, he met Kuruk, a Water Tribe Avatar who lost the love of his life to Koh the Face Stealer.
 
It was previously stated that this is not a Moral Theology sub, so I will refrain from expounding on that further. I will simply reiterate that homosexual relationships are not condemned in the original language scripture was written in. Those who say otherwise are ignorant of the mistranslations that occurred.

In regards to who is shutting whom down with blanket terms like “homophobia”, this needs to be discussed. I’ve seen the converse occurring: “Oh, they’re all labeling us as homophobes for seeing plot holes! Isn’t that ridiculous!” Give me a break.

What isn’t homophobic:
-Not interpreting Korrasami’s interactions as romantic
-Seeing them as friends

What is homophobic (and making an effort to silence queer voices):
-Telling others that Korrasami’s interactions are platonic and can’t be interpreted another way.
-Acknowledging that subtext in Makorra could be romantic, while ignoring the subtext in Korrasami as romantic.
-“Why do they have to be gay?”
-“They both dated boys, therefore they’re straight.”
-“The portrayal of Sisterhood/Female Friendships are more important than/just as important as queer representation.”
-“Telling Korrasami shippers that they read too much into things.”
-“Telling queer shippers that you “get it” when they call you or someone else out on heteronormativity or homophobia, or telling them that you’ve heard enough of it.”
-Comparing being called homophobic to experiencing homophobia.

The subtext behind Korrasami was there since the beginning of season 3. Most of you are baffled because you watched the show through a heteronormative lens with which you view social interactions. It’s really that simple.

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I was complaining that they continuously fought over the same exact guy and then dated each other.

I am sorry that I didn’t realize Korra couldn’t have a platonic close friend, that no everything they did was gay. I forgot that best friends nowadays can’t have the possibility of being platonic. To think so is “viewing through a heteronormative lens” and we must be willing to see things as they might be. Even though before Book 3 there was no indication that they were anything but straight.

“Heteronormative”…really?
The words “homophobic” and “homophobe” don’t even make sense

Hetero(different) sexual
Homo(same) sexual
Homo(same)phobia(the fear of)
It’s not homosexual phobia or anything it literally means fear of sameness. I mean there are other words with “homo” in it other than homosexual. Homogenous, Homo sapiens, etc.
 
I was complaining that they continuously fought over the same exact guy and then dated each other.

I am sorry that I didn’t realize Korra couldn’t have a platonic close friend, that no everything they did was gay. I forgot that best friends nowadays can’t have the possibility of being platonic. To think so is “viewing through a heteronormative lens” and we must be willing to see things as they might be. Even though before Book 3 there was no indication that they were anything but straight.

“Heteronormative”…really?
The words “homophobic” and “homophobe” don’t even make sense

Hetero(different) sexual
Homo(same) sexual
Homo(same)phobia(the fear of)
It’s not homosexual phobia or anything it literally means fear of sameness. I mean there are other words with “homo” in it other than homosexual. Homogenous, Homo sapiens, etc.
For the record, the “homo” in Homo sapiens is from Latin while the “homo” in Homosexual is from Greek. The Latin means man (for example Ecce homo: Behold the Man) while the Greek means “same.”

I detest it when people treat them as the same thing, even for the sake of a joke.
 
It was previously stated that this is not a Moral Theology sub, so I will refrain from expounding on that further. I will simply reiterate that homosexual relationships are not condemned in the original language scripture was written in. Those who say otherwise are ignorant of the mistranslations that occurred.
Are you the Infallible Magisterium? By what authority do you say there was a mistranslation and that homosexual relationships are not condemned? No, I’m sorry but you cannot convince me to take your word over the Church’s teachings. As a Catholic, you owe it to yourself to learn what our faith teaches instead of misrepresenting them. The Catechism is pretty clear on what it teaches about homosexuality (see sections 2357-2359) . There was a thread in this forum before that raises your claim but it’s an old one (forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=372436). You would have to create a separate thread though so I hope you do just that.
In regards to who is shutting whom down with blanket terms like “homophobia”, this needs to be discussed. I’ve seen the converse occurring: “Oh, they’re all labeling us as homophobes for seeing plot holes! Isn’t that ridiculous!” Give me a break.
Even the creators of the show called people homophobes and viewing things in a “heteronormative lens”, even though there are people in the LGBT community who also did not see the interactions between the two female characters as romantic. You cannot just invalidate those opinions especially if you look at the narrative choices in an objective manner.
What is homophobic (and making an effort to silence queer voices):
-Telling others that Korrasami’s interactions are platonic and can’t be interpreted another way.
-Acknowledging that subtext in Makorra could be romantic, while ignoring the subtext in Korrasami as romantic.
-“Why do they have to be gay?”
-“They both dated boys, therefore they’re straight.”
-“The portrayal of Sisterhood/Female Friendships are more important than/just as important as queer representation.”
-“Telling Korrasami shippers that they read too much into things.”
-“Telling queer shippers that you “get it” when they call you or someone else out on heteronormativity or homophobia, or telling them that you’ve heard enough of it.”
-Comparing being called homophobic to experiencing homophobia.
I thought homophobia means fear of homosexuals, not disagreeing with someone’s opinions. I disapprove of homosexual behavior, but I should treat everyone with dignity and respect because that’s what the Church teaches.

I’m sorry but there was little interaction between Asami and Korra to really “see” that they were being romantic. You’ve got Korra obviously crushing on Mako in Book 1 but what about Korra’s attraction to Asami in Books 3 and 4? A blush, which could also be interpreted in a non-romantic way? Maybe they should have spent more time showing the two girls interacting as more than friends and maybe changed some scenes and dialogue to end the focus on Korra’s and Mako’s will-they-or-won’t-they-get-back-together scenes.
The subtext behind Korrasami was there since the beginning of season 3. Most of you are baffled because you watched the show through a heteronormative lens with which you view social interactions. It’s really that simple.
:confused: I don’t understand this argument at all. How else am I supposed to see it? I’m not a queer person so maybe I did see the interactions as nothing more than platonic. But give me some credit here. When they held hands and faced each other, I DID interpret that as a romantic gesture, which is why a lot of people are saying “Where did that come from?”. It is not the viewers fault for failing to read the creators’ minds when the creators didn’t do a good job developing that narrative.

If that makes me someone who’s “wearing heteronormative lenses”, is that morally wrong? Help me to understand. I mean I do acknowledge that there are people who have same sex attraction. I’m not pretending they do not exist.

I don’t know if you are part of the LGBT community that you seem to take a lot of personal stock in the ending. I mean, I’m from South East Asia but I didn’t care one bit that Korra is brown which is why you don’t see me crowing over getting “representation for women of color” nor did I feel that Korra’s “bisexual representation” overshadowing “women of color” representation bothered me that much.

There is another thread here in the forums that was opened about LGBT representation in the media. You can also have your say there but I would just like to say that our sexuality should not define us. And this is why I’m disappointed with the way the series ended. We’ve got an amazing story of a woman who has been compassionate, made sacrifices, and has learned to overcome so many physical and mental trials that made her question her purpose. However, it looks like the series will be remembered as a “groundbreaking” show that portrayed the first bisexual protagonist in a children’s show. To sacrifice the value of Korra’s story for the purpose of making a political point to me was just a bad decision in my opinion. Morally, I don’t agree with the implications that same sex relationships are ok and I was hoping that Christians, especially ones who identify themselves as Catholics, would be able to understand where I’m coming from.
 
However, it looks like the series will be remembered as a “groundbreaking” show that portrayed the first bisexual protagonist in a children’s show. To sacrifice the value of Korra’s story for the purpose of making a political point to me was just a bad decision in my opinion. Morally, I don’t agree with the implications that same sex relationships are ok and I was hoping that Christians, especially ones who identify themselves as Catholics, would be able to understand where I’m coming from.
Again, I couldn’t have possibly said it better myself. They decided to make a political move in a kids show. They handled WMD’s and journalism before sure, but that isn’t as debatable a subject as homosexuality these days. Making even a NOTION of ANY kind of stand on it gives you judgment and criticism. This was just a bad move on the writers part.

This show they clearly care about so much has just been torn apart because of it trying to be progressive.

Jellyfish, I don’t know what you’re trying to accomplish, but imagine one of the posters on here going on an LGBT site bashing them for ruining their favorite show and calling them heathens. That’d be pretty stupid huh? Fanning the flames like that when all they want to do is talk about a show, and their opinion on the ending? So tell me, why do you want to do that here? Just to prove a point to a bunch of people who’s opinion you already know? We’re not going to change the opinions of the LGBT community any more than you can change our minds, so why can’t you just leave it be, and just let us vent on a forum where we want to feel safe just like the other group.

Although apparently some of us all agree on something that you are so clearly trying to avoid talking about.

I’d recommend no one responding to him. This post is just going to become a big flame war if we do.

It’s been a few days now, has anyone else started to feel a bit better? I’ve started to want to rewatch ATLA again, which is a big deal for me. I’ve even considered trying to enjoy book 1 or book 2 of Korra again since they didn’t even think they were going further than book 1. With the possibility of two.

Thanks again for all you guys’ prayers. I just want to know if anyone else has started to feel better.
 
The good thing about sequels is that if they suck, then you still have the first one and you can ignore the sequels wholesale.
 
I think that I will be able to enjoy ATLA again and probably LOK books 1-3 again, bit I don’t want to spend any more money on the franchise. I purchased the complete book 4 on amazon at the very beginning. This is definitely not something I would have done if I had known what the ending would look like. That message is not something I want to support financially.
 
I was complaining that they continuously fought over the same exact guy and then dated each other.

I am sorry that I didn’t realize Korra couldn’t have a platonic close friend, that no everything they did was gay. I forgot that best friends nowadays can’t have the possibility of being platonic. To think so is “viewing through a heteronormative lens” and we must be willing to see things as they might be. Even though before Book 3 there was no indication that they were anything but straight.

“Heteronormative”…really?
The words “homophobic” and “homophobe” don’t even make sense

Hetero(different) sexual
Homo(same) sexual
Homo(same)phobia(the fear of)
It’s not homosexual phobia or anything it literally means fear of sameness. I mean there are other words with “homo” in it other than homosexual. Homogenous, Homo sapiens, etc.
I was being sarcastic in the second paragraph, I don’t apologize for what I think or that the fact homosexual actions are wrong. There are people who support these kinds of actions that were confused at the ending.
 
I think that I will be able to enjoy ATLA again and probably LOK books 1-3 again, bit I don’t want to spend any more money on the franchise. I purchased the complete book 4 on amazon at the very beginning. This is definitely not something I would have done if I had known what the ending would look like. That message is not something I want to support financially.
There in lies a problem and struggle for me. I don’t want to support their decision in making Korra bi, but I still love the show… maybe your route is best and just ignore the book 4 buy. I loved zaheer too much to give him up =l
 
There in lies a problem and struggle for me. I don’t want to support their decision in making Korra bi, but I still love the show… maybe your route is best and just ignore the book 4 buy. I loved zaheer too much to give him up =l
I certainly am feeling better :). I have no ill will against the creators. Hmmm, I admit Book 3 was the best for me in terms of action and pacing. I do love Book 2 finale and Avatar Wan even though Unalaq is a really cheesy villain :p.
 
I certainly am feeling better :). I have no ill will against the creators. Hmmm, I admit Book 3 was the best for me in terms of action and pacing. I do love Book 2 finale and Avatar Wan even though Unalaq is a really cheesy villain :p.
Glad to hear it. Book 3 was my favorite of any avatar book actually. The villain is what sold me on it… oh gosh Zaheer xD

I actually didn’t like the show until the avatar Wan story. That’s actually when it got me hooked. Unalaq was definitely terrible yeah. The scale of the fight was so much bigger than any other season though.

I also have no ill will towards the creators… I’m still hoping I can just move past this and enjoy my show xC
 
I certainly am feeling better :). I have no ill will against the creators. Hmmm, I admit Book 3 was the best for me in terms of action and pacing. I do love Book 2 finale and Avatar Wan even though Unalaq is a really cheesy villain :p.
And sometimes cheesy villains are fun. I like the villains who could unapologetically eat a live puppy and set fire to a gaggle of grannies just because they’re evil. Literally, they know they’re evil and happily revel in that fact because they’re evil just to be evil. No back story, no grand ideal to make the world perfect in their eyes, just flat out “I will do X because I can! Just stop me Hero!:lol”

And if they’re voiced by Tim Curry…
 
And sometimes cheesy villains are fun. I like the villains who could unapologetically eat a live puppy and set fire to a gaggle of grannies just because they’re evil. Literally, they know they’re evil and happily revel in that fact because they’re evil just to be evil. No back story, no grand ideal to make the world perfect in their eyes, just flat out “I will do X because I can! Just stop me Hero!:lol”

And if they’re voiced by Tim Curry…
Tim Curry would really ham it up 🙂

Zaheer was the most compelling and chilling villain for me. I was rolling my eyes when Kuvira told her sob story and I felt like putting on my Sokka hat and say “Boo! No talking!”. But I guess that’s why Korra is an awesome person being able to show mercy to her enemies.
 
Tim Curry would really ham it up 🙂

Zaheer was the most compelling and chilling villain for me. I was rolling my eyes when Kuvira told her sob story and I felt like putting on my Sokka hat and say “Boo! No talking!”. But I guess that’s why Korra is an awesome person being able to show mercy to her enemies.
I never once felt any pity for Kuvira. She was really twisted and just blatantly arrogant. Reminded me of hitler. Zaheer was so interesting because 1) he had the most interesting followers of any villain, changing the rules of bending in some cases 2) his motivations were completely believable. In fact, I can totally see myself siding with him if ill informed. 3) no other villain has affected the avatar that much, and yet still helps when needed. That kind of unbiased neutrality is something I just admire. He really doesn’t seem like a bad guy. His intentions were good. The methods weren’t. And who could fault him for just wanting to make the world a better place?

Overall just an amazing villain. I heard that all the original writers came back for Book 3 and apparently 4… I have a feeling they didn’t stick around long enough to finish 4. The beginning was strong, but the rest of the season fell really flat IMO. Kuvira wasn’t as fleshed out as she could have been. The feel of the season compared to 3 was completely different too. I just can’t help but feel some of the writers abandoned it again, because if I’m being honest, it’s the weakest story of all the seasons.

"And sometimes cheesy villains are fun. I like the villains who could unapologetically eat a live puppy and set fire to a gaggle of grannies just because they’re evil. Literally, they know they’re evil and happily revel in that fact because they’re evil just to be evil. No back story, no grand ideal to make the world perfect in their eyes, just flat out “I will do X because I can! Just stop me Hero!:lol”

And if they’re voiced by Tim Curry…"

haha so you like the Joker is what you’re saying xP

Anything with Tim Curry is amazing. He’s a phenomenal voice actor. Shame they never got him… or maybe it’s a good thing now -_-’
 
I realize I am a bit late to respond to this, but I want to point out that monasticism in the Eastern religions (which essentially means Buddhism) is a temporary state - at least in some traditions - and is not connected with the idea of permanent celibacy. A person will live in a monastery for a few years as a way of gaining wisdom and maturity, before getting married and proceeding to raise a family. In some traditions a person can even be married and live in a monastery at the same time.
Hey louisak, I do realize that not all Buddhist traditions include celibacy as a permanent state (or at all); however, although celibacy may not be mandatory, it is certainly an option in some traditions. As opposed to some religions, such, as, say, the LDS, where it seems that celibacy is not seen as acceptable for anyone, indeed my understanding is that for women, not being married is seen even as an impediment for entry into heaven.

Anyway, perhaps I was completely misinterpreting even the original ATLA canon regarding this, but my impression from ATLA was that celibacy was a theoretical ideal for Avatars, not really because of the sexual aspects, but because marriage in ATLA society, is certainly portrayed as it actually was in traditional East Asian societies, as often being motivated not by romantic love but by political and other practical considerations, especially in the upper classes. (Not that love marriages don’t exist at all, but we see Katara’s grandmother had to flee all the way to the other end of the “earth” to avoid an unwanted arranged marriage, even though her prospective husband actually did love her.)

So, it seemed to me that ideally, the Avatar, being able to control all four elements, is supposed to be impartial and above politics, and consider what is good for the whole world, not just the interests of his own close family members, or those of the specific tribe, kingdom, or nation he or she actually happened to be (re)born into. So, if the Avatar remained single, then it would be less likely that a spouse, children, or in-laws could exert undue influence over the Avatar to favor a particular elemental faction.

All this being said; at this point, what really annoys me about this whole denouement, is not the scene itself, but the show creators’ attitude in essentially saying “if you didn’t see Korrasami coming, it means you’re a homophobe, or at least not as open-minded as the people who did catch on”.

Now, UnumCorpus brought up JKR “outing” Dumbledore as a similar example, but at least JKR (as far as I know) never said anything similar about the people who didn’t catch on to Dumbledore/Grindelwald. (And yes, I know she made some dismissive comments about the anti-R/H shippers, but that was more about their reading comprehension, she didn’t insinuate that people who didn’t catch on to Ron/Hermione were bigoted in some way.)

Although I do recall that in the HP fandom, when the Remus/Sirius ship was very popular, I recall that many “R/S” shippers would try to “win” shipping arguments by casting fans who didn’t see the two as romantically involved, as homophobes. It’s essentially an ad hominem attack, and while I can understand why extreme shippers do it, it strikes me as pretty unprofessional when authors do it themselves.

Also, come to think of it, JKR’s recent remarks about Ron/Hermione being “forced” are also similar to the ATLA creators are now claiming the Kataang ending of ATLA was “forced”. That strikes me as even odder than JKR’s remarks, because Kataang seemed much more obvious in ATLA than R/H did in HP. If they really wanted to sink Kataang, they had ample opportunity to do it in LOK itself, just because they kissed at the end of ATLA doesn’t mean they got married and had children. Though perhaps they were trying to hint in LOK that their marriage wasn’t actually that happy, it seems most fans took it as “of course the marriage wasn’t perfect because no marriage is”, not as something meant to actually sink the ship completely.

And BTW, I think that JKR did a really poor job setting up Harry/Ginny – not that they’d eventually wind up together, that was pretty obvious, but the idea that H/G would actually function as a successful long-term relationship. I came away seeing Ginny more as a trophy wife that is meant to be Harry’s reward, than a believable character in her own right.

And yet, despite all the flaws I now see in the work, I actually still consider myself an HP fan! So while I sympathize with those who feel they can’t in good conscience remain ATLA/LOK fans, I also think that it’s valid to remain in the fandom as well.
 
Alright, I am going to leave this here. If anyone wants to see Bryan’s (my favorite response) or Michael’s response to the ending. Also, if you are wondering who these two are, they are the creators.

Bryan’s: bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace

Michael’s: mikedimartinostory.com/2014/12/22/korrasami-confirmed/

Now I must say I really like the quote of the deeply religious crew member’s response at the end of Bryan’s response.

Anyways, when I saw the ending to Book 4; I loved it. I loved the stance they were doing and the reasoning they did after reading their responses. That we need to start to do this more, that we shouldn’t have this oppression and this “unwritten rule” we have in our heads. I think we need more of this to help our society as a whole to stop discriminating toward LGBT. Now story wise, I have to say I would of preferred if Korra stayed single. It would made more sense since Korra’s and Asami’s relationship wasn’t built up as much, it needed more time for development. However, I am not saying it wasn’t built up before. There was some build up and here is where it has:

It made the most sense and seems to be the most natural relationship. Assami is a genius that has lots of confidence, and a beautifully feminine women depicted on the show. Korra on the other hand is strong, brave, and more than a little uncertain of herself. The two personalities complimented each other completely. From all of Korra’s relationships, Asami seems to be the closest friend that she ever had and seemed to genuinely care for her; despite their differences. I don’t think Korra and Asami had feelings for each other before season 4 though, but that their feelings blossomed in Korra’s absence, there is strong evidence for this. Before Korra left, Asami and her were close friends; something Korra had never really had in anyone. When Korra left she wrote to Asami, and not to anyone else because it was “easier to talk to Asami”. Yes, this can also be reminiscent of just a strong friendship, but moreover it is evidence that Korra feels the safest (remember she is in a vulnerable place) talking to Asami, this is also evidence that Asami is whom she misses the most. Asami blatantly says she misses Korra in her letter. Now remember neither Korra or Asami were shown to have dated anyone else during Korra’s absence. Asami is visibly excited when Korra is set to return; but when Korra is revealed to be missing, the person on team Avatar that arguably seems the most distraught by her sudden disappearance is Asami. When Korra returns, the person that makes her blush when she compliments her new appearance is Asami. A little later in the very same episode Asami is the one that seems the most hurt by Korra’s disappearance, as it was brought to light with a very slight provocation. Then in the flashback episode, we see Asami and Korra reminiscing of their past. Now with all these clues, let’s talk about the finale. Asami is a business woman, and most likely has things she needs to take care of. Yet, she would rather spend time alone with Korra on vacation after her fathers death, and the near destruction of her whole life. The reason for this is because Asami wants to spend time with someone she deeply cares about after all that happened. Now, girls do hold hands. However, the only times they do so is when one is trying lead another somewhere; which we never saw, they were both walking up together. Other times, is if one needs support they’ll hold hands; but they got that out of the way at the steps during the wedding after party with a hug. So the only reason they would walk up together, holding hands, and then both grab each others’ hands while looking into each others’ eyes for a long period of time in this kind of manner is because they want to be with each other in a loving relationship. So from all of this evidence you can truly tell it was meant to be. Especially with the finale, because without it we would say they were really close friends.

And if you still don’t see it, I’ll state what Bryan states in his response, “If it seems out of the blue to you, I think a second viewing of the last two seasons would show that perhaps you were looking at it only through a hetero lens.” So anyways, I see a lot of narrative value for having the characters be bisexual. It is a stunning and excellent plot twist, that will make an impact on the industry towards a positive direction; and I am glad they did it. Probably more glad than keeping Korra single. Also if you don’t agree, let me quote Bryan again:

Sadly and unsurprisingly, there are also plenty of people who have lashed out with homophobic vitriol and nonsense. It has been my experience that by and large this kind of mindset is a result of a lack of exposure to people whose lives and struggles are different from one’s own, and due to a deficiency in empathy––the latter being a key theme in Book 4. (Despite what you might have heard, bisexual people are real!) I have held plenty of stupid notions throughout my life that were planted there in any number of ways, or even grown out of my own ignorance and flawed personality. Yet through getting to know people from all walks of life, listening to the stories of their experiences, and employing some empathy to try to imagine what it might be like to walk in their shoes, I have been able to shed many hurtful mindsets.

There are many people out there, and I don’t think we should act like they aren’t there. Especially in our media that help influence the future. If God doesn’t want someone who is gay that does more good to humanity, than someone that hurts humanity more. I don’t want that God in my life.
 
Alright, I am going to leave this here. If anyone wants to see Bryan’s (my favorite response) or Michael’s response to the ending. Also, if you are wondering who these two are, they are the creators.

Bryan’s: bryankonietzko.tumblr.com/post/105916338157/korrasami-is-canon-you-can-celebrate-it-embrace

Michael’s: mikedimartinostory.com/2014/12/22/korrasami-confirmed/

Now I must say I really like the quote of the deeply religious crew member’s response at the end of Bryan’s response.

There are many people out there, and I don’t think we should act like they aren’t there. Especially in our media that help influence the future. If God doesn’t want someone who is gay that does more good to humanity, than someone that hurts humanity more. I don’t want that God in my life.
Have you read all of our discussions on this page? What exactly are you trying to accomplish? You should know that we don’t agree with that at all.

You clearly don’t know much about God if you can seriously think that He wouldn’t want someone that is gay. God loves EVERYONE. What he doesn’t love is sin, and if He says that being a homosexual is a sin, then that’s it. In my own personal opinion, I agree with what the Bible says, and also think that homosexuality ISN’T a normal thing. But that’s MY opinion. You’re not going to change that. So why bother coming on here if you’re just trying to start an argument? Sure, you could say that you just want to share your opinion, but why here? Why not to all the COUNTLESS other websites that are totally for this decision? You just picked this one because people don’t like it? Or because it’s the opposite side and you just want to discuss it?

No matter which way you throw it every single way you could’ve posted your post it will still start an argument. All the people on this forum want to do is speak to like minded individuals with the same beliefs and same viewpoints on our favorite show. We don’t want a big dumb debate. I’m still personally struggling with the way the show ended. It’s been over a week and I’m still bothered by it.

I honestly hope you don’t respond. Just please agree with me that I don’t want to start a big religious debate on a forum that the other posters just wanted to vent their frustrations on. Go post on a forum that will agree with you, please. I won’t respond to any of yours.

To everyone else, I’d like to know how everyone else is still holding up, and if anyone still feels they can watch the show and why. I’m still struggling greatly with it and it’s really bothering me still.**
 
Have you read all of our discussions on this page? What exactly are you trying to accomplish? You should know that we don’t agree with that at all.**

I just wanted to speak my mind on this matter. Also, don’t say I don’t know nothing about God, you can’t judge a person by a post. You act like you know me just because I posted on her speaking my mind. However, you don’t know me. I didn’t say you all need to learn to respect for the LGBT community and listen to me because I know everything. No, I just stated my opinion and if you disagree I just stated what I thought about your disagreement. I understand you believe what you believe and that’s fine, as long you aren’t harming anyone. Like I said, just stating my stance on this issue. If you didn’t want to start an argument, why did you respond to my post. You could of left me alone and nothing would of happened, but here we are.

Anyways, I grew up believing LGBT people weren’t human and was “unnatural”. Then I went through some spiritual journeys, made some LGBT friends and realized how dumb the Bible is. There are so many religions out there, there is no correct one. Also, if God loves everyone. Why would he look down upon LGBT people that are born that way. It seems counterintuitive to me. Also, there are people out there that haven’t heard of the Bible and your God because of where they live. For example tribes in the amazon, eskimos in Canada, and past lives like when Japan was isolated and haven’t heard of it either. How was God suppose to judge them when they never heard of him, huh? I believe God loves everyone, and everyone can go to heaven.
 
Yeah I have also seen all the episodes of ‘Korra”, it is a great series. Well dear I am a Christian and I love to know about popular christian celebrities of Hollywood. My personal favorite is Candace Cameron-Bure.
 
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