Any Christian fans of Legend of Korra?

[Midwest88]

Also, don’t say I don’t know nothing about God, you can’t judge a person by a post. .

The OP is judging your knowledge of God, not necessarily you as a being.

 

[cena]

I just wanted to speak my mind on this matter. Also, don’t say I don’t know nothing about God, you can’t judge a person by a post. You act like you know me just because I posted on her speaking my mind. However, you don’t know me. I didn’t say you all need to learn to respect for the LGBT community and listen to me because I know everything. No, I just stated my opinion and if you disagree I just stated what I thought about your disagreement. I understand you believe what you believe and that’s fine, as long you aren’t harming anyone. Like I said, just stating my stance on this issue. If you didn’t want to start an argument, why did you respond to my post. You could of left me alone and nothing would of happened, but here we are.

Anyways, I grew up believing LGBT people weren’t human and was “unnatural”. Then I went through some spiritual journeys, made some LGBT friends and realized how dumb the Bible is. There are so many religions out there, there is no correct one. Also, if God loves everyone. Why would he look down upon LGBT people that are born that way. It seems counterintuitive to me. Also, there are people out there that haven’t heard of the Bible and your God because of where they live. For example tribes in the amazon, eskimos in Canada, and past lives like when Japan was isolated and haven’t heard of it either. How was God suppose to judge them when they never heard of him, huh? I believe God loves everyone, and everyone can go to heaven.

We do not know for sure what causes same sex attraction. God doesn’t look down on them, He is only offended my actions that come from the temptation. Of course LGBT people are human, their desires (concerning this matter) are disordered and unnatural but they themselves are not unnatural. They are more than their desires. The Bible isn’t dumb, you probably are just reading incorrectly. Some parts require context (like St. Paul’s letters).
Concerning the tribes,That’s called invincible ignorance. If someone had no way of knowing God or what is wright and wrong and they made the most moral choices they could, they could go to heaven.

Catholicism is the correct religion. How can atheism, satanism, etc. be as pleasing to God as Catholicism?

 

[Stseany]

It was left open ended for a reason. if you don’t like them being in a relationship then just take it to mean they are close friends. The show is ended it can be what ever you want it to be. OR better yeah, just remind yourself that Its a cartoon set in a fictional universe about people who fight each other with magic Kung-fu and robots and move on with your lives.

 

[ToeInTheWater]

It was left open ended for a reason. if you don’t like them being in a relationship then just take it to mean they are close friends. The show is ended it can be what ever you want it to be. OR better yeah, just remind yourself that Its a cartoon set in a fictional universe about people who fight each other with magic Kung-fu and robots and move on with your lives.

While in general I tend to agree with the “death of the author” approach to literature, I think it’s quite legitimate to comment on how the showrunners have now made comments that make it CLEAR that the ending is meant to be interpreted romantically, and essentially insulted people who had seen the relationship as a close friendship.

Also, no one is forcing you to make snide comments about “moving on”. It’s also very ironic that until you made your comment, no one had posted in the topic for FOUR days.

I really don’t understand why people waste their time complaining about other people wasting their time.

 

[Stseany]

While in general I tend to agree with the “death of the author” approach to literature, I think it’s quite legitimate to comment on how the showrunners have now made comments that make it CLEAR that the ending is meant to be interpreted romantically, and essentially insulted people who had seen the relationship as a close friendship.

Also, no one is forcing you to make snide comments about “moving on”. It’s also very ironic that until you made your comment, no one had posted in the topic for FOUR days.

I really don’t understand why people waste their time complaining about other people wasting their time.

It looked like an interesting thread, thought I would share my thoughts.
and I don’t understand why people waste their time complaining about someone wasting their time complaining about people wasting their time.

 

[NovusFidem]

Sorry if I am a little late for the discussion.

I loved ATLA while it lasted, but Korra didn’t interest me much (after the pro-bending, the Amon arc was a little lost on me). But the mention of Toph made me return to this series almost at its end, hehe!

I actually watched everything (just to understand what was going on), and liked most of it. After the first season I felt it really started to pick up its pace, and by the third season I was really liking the story.

And Korra. Her depression, as some mentioned, really connected with me as well (had depresion for 2-3 years). It was well portrayed. But what really, really captivated me were the last few minutes of the last episode:

“I know I was in a pretty dark place after I was poisoned. But I finally understand why I had to go through all that. I needed to understand what true suffering was, so I could become more compassionate to others. Even to people like Kuvira.”

After healing from depression, all that I went through was just something that “happened” to me. But I never stopped to think about the why. I mean, during my depression, God never answered me when I asked: why am I like this?

But He answered when I was ready to understand: like Korra, I also started to become kinder, calmer, better after my depression. I never noticed, it was a slow transition, but it is so obvious now… I just started (6 months?) to really try to understand Catholicism, and it’s been only 1 year since I first understood the importance of suffering. But even after all this time, I never tried to understand the depression I went through some 5 years ago.

I found it cute that the answer came bundled in a pseudo-anime’s last episode

So, you can understand how disturbed I was that, a few minutes later, Korrasami happened. I participate in a few fandoms, so I know the drill with shipping. I knew this shipping probably existed, but I honestly thought Mako was the one for the first 3 seasons (First Guy Wins). Then, after Korra’s depression, I was certain they were going with Celibate Hero instead.

They are so worried in portraying LGBT relationships, that they ignore another form of relationships which is also lacking in society: platonic!

I mean, as someone mentioned, even Disney’s Frozen. They had two sisters, but still people jumped to the conclusion of romantic love right away (in fact, they seem to be a majority in this “fandom”). Just further reinforces the idea that love and sex walk hand in hand, if even sisters can’t just love each other for being sisters…

 

[needmorelight]

To everyone else, I’d like to know how everyone else is still holding up, and if anyone still feels they can watch the show and why. I’m still struggling greatly with it and it’s really bothering me still.

Hi bagrad! It’s been a while since I last checked on my thread. I’m pretty much have accepted what happened and reading other blogposts who were critical of the ending in the narrative point of view helped a bit. I haven’t brought myself to rewatch the whole series though and I think the only way for me to be able to do that is to invoke the “death of the author” interpretation just for things to make narrative sense. if small children and people outside the Tumblr fandom can miss the canon ending, then I don’t see any reason why I shouldn’t adopt this approach. The other reason why I don’t want to rewatch the series yet is that I don’t want to spend any money on the DVD (particularly in pre ordering book 4) and financially support the creators for what they admitted was a politically-motivated decision, which I don’t agree with. (Maybe I would buy all DVD’s a few years from now but not anytime soon because I’m still a bit unhappy with the ending lol).

Anyway, I found this blog post of a Catholic seminarian and apparently, he also missed the canon interpretation of the finale ending initially:
holysmack.com/2014/12/22/closing-thoughts-on-korra/. Some people might accuse him of seeing through hetero-lenses but whatever. He doesn’t seem too upset so maybe I just need to distance myself from LOK for a while before I can bring myself to enjoy it again. Hope this helps .

 

[findthesheep]

Wow I’m late to this thread…

I’m really glad I found this. As we all know, the Christian fandom members are few and far between. gotta stick together,

I loved ATLA. and I loved Korra’s s1. the second and third seasons were a little spotty, but they had good moments. then season four rolled around, and while I can’t say i enjoyed the plot, I thought korra’s personal character arc was amazing. Like most, I was hoping that Korra would get back with Mako, but i would be ok if the show ended with her as an independent woman. I mean, that was what the entire last season was about - finding herself and being able to conquer her fears and stand up on her own. The finale was alright, but a little bittersweet. I won’t go into a whole post about that.

Then, at the end, when she and Asami were talking, my heart slowed down a bit. their conversation was increasingly suggestive of homosexuality. And then when they held hads at the end like two people getting married, my heart dropped. one of my favorite shows ended in a homosexual couple. as a Catholic, this was so disappointing. I still can hardly believe it happened. and even though YES, it’s fictional and a cartoon, tht’s not the problem. The problem is that a children’s show (even if it has adult themes, the intended audience is minors) expressed this behavior. Will more children’s shows start showing homosexuality??

 

[needmorelight]

Wow I’m late to this thread…

I’m really glad I found this. As we all know, the Christian fandom members are few and far between. gotta stick together,

I loved ATLA. and I loved Korra’s s1. the second and third seasons were a little spotty, but they had good moments. then season four rolled around, and while I can’t say i enjoyed the plot, I thought korra’s personal character arc was amazing. Like most, I was hoping that Korra would get back with Mako, but i would be ok if the show ended with her as an independent woman. I mean, that was what the entire last season was about - finding herself and being able to conquer her fears and stand up on her own. The finale was alright, but a little bittersweet. I won’t go into a whole post about that.

Then, at the end, when she and Asami were talking, my heart slowed down a bit. their conversation was increasingly suggestive of homosexuality. And then when they held hads at the end like two people getting married, my heart dropped. one of my favorite shows ended in a homosexual couple. as a Catholic, this was so disappointing. I still can hardly believe it happened. and even though YES, it’s fictional and a cartoon, tht’s not the problem. The problem is that a children’s show (even if it has adult themes, the intended audience is minors) expressed this behavior. Will more children’s shows start showing homosexuality??

Hi findthesheep! I’ve seen and watched shows that provided representation for the LGBT community (e.g., Glee, Modern Family). I knew what was involved in shows like those enough to discern which messages I want to learn or reject. There’s a difference between seeing a show that I know will have mature themes and violence versus watching a kid’s show, which I thought would be innocuous and suddenly suggesting a homosexual relationship. To be honest, that really infuriated me especially that the creators clearly abandoned the importance of the main character’s story arc in favor of putting out a political statement that is really controversial. I thought it was insidious since I was emotionally invested with the main protagonist’s story, even drawing parallels between the series’ themes on sacrifice and forgiveness with our faith and now I’m being forced to accept that homosexual relationships are okay. The fact that LoK is now getting attention for the last 2 minutes, instead of the rest of the story arc is just unfortunate but I’m blaming the creators for making such a poorly thought out decision to end the series in that way.

I’m not familiar with the American ratings for children’s show but it looks like LOK is supposed to be a Y7 rating? I’m just wondering why the creators needed to put that “canon ending” in a kid’s show when I’m pretty sure issues on sexuality is probably the last thing in the minds of their target audience. Sure there are teens and adults like myself watching it but it looked like the creators just forgot about the target audience.

 

[needmorelight]

Sorry if I am a little late for the discussion.

I loved ATLA while it lasted, but Korra didn’t interest me much (after the pro-bending, the Amon arc was a little lost on me). But the mention of Toph made me return to this series almost at its end, hehe!

I actually watched everything (just to understand what was going on), and liked most of it. After the first season I felt it really started to pick up its pace, and by the third season I was really liking the story.

And Korra. Her depression, as some mentioned, really connected with me as well (had depresion for 2-3 years). It was well portrayed. But what really, really captivated me were the last few minutes of the last episode:

“I know I was in a pretty dark place after I was poisoned. But I finally understand why I had to go through all that. I needed to understand what true suffering was, so I could become more compassionate to others. Even to people like Kuvira.”

After healing from depression, all that I went through was just something that “happened” to me. But I never stopped to think about the why. I mean, during my depression, God never answered me when I asked: why am I like this?

But He answered when I was ready to understand: like Korra, I also started to become kinder, calmer, better after my depression. I never noticed, it was a slow transition, but it is so obvious now… I just started (6 months?) to really try to understand Catholicism, and it’s been only 1 year since I first understood the importance of suffering. But even after all this time, I never tried to understand the depression I went through some 5 years ago.

I also suffered from depression and like Korra, I was also bad-tempered and impatient. Which is why I felt Korra’s story resonated with me.

I found it cute that the answer came bundled in a pseudo-anime’s last episode

So, you can understand how disturbed I was that, a few minutes later, Korrasami happened. I participate in a few fandoms, so I know the drill with shipping. I knew this shipping probably existed, but I honestly thought Mako was the one for the first 3 seasons (First Guy Wins). Then, after Korra’s depression, I was certain they were going with Celibate Hero instead.

They are so worried in portraying LGBT relationships, that they ignore another form of relationships which is also lacking in society: platonic!

I just don’t get “shipping” and it was probably a good idea why I stayed away from the online fandom.

What I find puzzling is that eventhough Mako and Korra’s relationship is now platonic, the creators decided to put Korra in a romantic relationship with Asami, when their friendship is not even as deep or compelling as the one between Mako’s and Korra’s. Like you, I also thought Korra would either end up single or with Mako based on the narrative. I guess it just shows how the creators decided to abandon sense and integrity in storytelling for the sake of making a political point.

I mean, as someone mentioned, even Disney’s Frozen. They had two sisters, but still people jumped to the conclusion of romantic love right away (in fact, they seem to be a majority in this “fandom”). Just further reinforces the idea that love and sex walk hand in hand, if even sisters can’t just love each other for being sisters…

That’s a really messed up world we live in if the love between two sisters is now being taken as a sexual one.

 

[UnumCorpus]

Anyway, I found this blog post of a Catholic seminarian and apparently, he also missed the canon interpretation of the finale ending initially:
holysmack.com/2014/12/22/closing-thoughts-on-korra/. Some people might accuse him of seeing through hetero-lenses but whatever. He doesn’t seem too upset so maybe I just need to distance myself from LOK for a while before I can bring myself to enjoy it again. Hope this helps .

Thank you so much for sharing this excellent blog post, needmorelight. His views match mine almost exactly.

I looked at an earlier blog post he did about the ATLA/Korra shows, and I just love the connections he makes between Catholicism and the events in the Avatar universe:

holysmack.com/2014/08/24/the-avatar-the-pope-the-passion/

So, especially taking into account the excellent analysis given in the blog, it is too bad that with all these amazing Catholic Christian themes, that the show chose to end on this note. With ATLA, I loved the themes it had about accessing the wisdom of the past ages, and looking to past Avatars for guidance (somewhat similar to how we look to past saints for guidance). As a result, I actually was upset when Korra lost her connection to the past Avatars at the end of Book 2. But there were still so many great themes in the show after that, and Book 3 does tie with Book 1 as my favourite season. The Book 3 finale was amazing, and I also found it interesting how the blog author compared it to the Passion.

And yet with all these powerful themes present in the show, it is sad that they have been eclipsed in the minds of most viewers due the “Korrasami” ending.

Like the author of the blog though, I can’t help but still enjoy the show. The “death of the author” is my mindset here, as there was little to no indication in the show of a lead-up to a bi-sexual relationship. Especially since the show in general did not focus on the sexuality (until its frustrating, final 2 minutes) or the sexual activities of its characters, which was a refreshing change from most TV shows about teenagers or young adults.

 

[findthesheep]

Hi findthesheep! I’ve seen and watched shows that provided representation for the LGBT community (e.g., Glee, Modern Family). I knew what was involved in shows like those enough to discern which messages I want to learn or reject. There’s a difference between seeing a show that I know will have mature themes and violence versus watching a kid’s show, which I thought would be innocuous and suddenly suggesting a homosexual relationship. To be honest, that really infuriated me especially that the creators clearly abandoned the importance of the main character’s story arc in favor of putting out a political statement that is really controversial. I thought it was insidious since I was emotionally invested with the main protagonist’s story, even drawing parallels between the series’ themes on sacrifice and forgiveness with our faith and now I’m being forced to accept that homosexual relationships are okay. The fact that LoK is now getting attention for the last 2 minutes, instead of the rest of the story arc is just unfortunate but I’m blaming the creators for making such a poorly thought out decision to end the series in that way.

I’m not familiar with the American ratings for children’s show but it looks like LOK is supposed to be a Y7 rating? I’m just wondering why the creators needed to put that “canon ending” in a kid’s show when I’m pretty sure issues on sexuality is probably the last thing in the minds of their target audience. Sure there are teens and adults like myself watching it but it looked like the creators just forgot about the target audience.

exactly!!! they threw away a perfectly good character arc for the shock factor.

 

[needmorelight]

Thank you so much for sharing this excellent blog post, needmorelight. His views match mine almost exactly.

I looked at an earlier blog post he did about the ATLA/Korra shows, and I just love the connections he makes between Catholicism and the events in the Avatar universe:

holysmack.com/2014/08/24/the-avatar-the-pope-the-passion/

His analysis and reflections are pretty cool .

So, especially taking into account the excellent analysis given in the blog, it is too bad that with all these amazing Catholic Christian themes, that the show chose to end on this note. With ATLA, I loved the themes it had about accessing the wisdom of the past ages, and looking to past Avatars for guidance (somewhat similar to how we look to past saints for guidance). As a result, I actually was upset when Korra lost her connection to the past Avatars at the end of Book 2. But there were still so many great themes in the show after that, and Book 3 does tie with Book 1 as my favourite season. The Book 3 finale was amazing, and I also found it interesting how the blog author compared it to the Passion.

And yet with all these powerful themes present in the show, it is sad that they have been eclipsed in the minds of most viewers due the “Korrasami” ending.

Exactly! I’ve never been so invested in a TV show that also gave me instances to reflect on the Catholic faith, which is why that ending was so disappointing to me too.

Like the author of the blog though, I can’t help but still enjoy the show. The “death of the author” is my mindset here, as there was little to no indication in the show of a lead-up to a bi-sexual relationship. Especially since the show in general did not focus on the sexuality (until its frustrating, final 2 minutes) or the sexual activities of its characters, which was a refreshing change from most TV shows about teenagers or young adults.

It may take me a while before I get used to this"death of the author mindset". I dunno, maybe I’m a bit uncomfortable with messing with canon interpretations. But then again I have to remind myself that these 4 LoK books are not the Holy Bible.

 

[Godly_Girl]

My sister and I binge-watched Avatar: The Last Airbender a week ago, and now we are on the verge of completing The Legend of Korra (2 episodes left)!

 

[Patavium]

My Wife and I saw the entire Avatar series and Legend of Korra series.

We did not notice any same sex attraction issues going on during the whole series. Thus to me there are two cases:

1. Viewers are reading too much into a compliment, sharing non-romantic letters between two best friends, and a vacation to the Spirit World. They held hands as they went into the spirit portal, so what? nothing sexual about it. Are we letting the current times define everything we view through sexual attraction? everything has sexual attraction undertone?
2. Producers of the Show wanted to include the same sex attraction undertone, but failed at making it clear. However, they commented their intention of this online and viewers read their intention, and saw the ending through the glass of the producers. Thus no wonder, they saw the ending with the preconceived intention of the producers.

 

[E_7]

This is ridiculous. I cannot believe my eyes. Reading this thread has somehow broken the image of the Legend of Korra. The World and Society is corrupting the minds of innocent people, and corrupting the minds of those who are up to date with television and media. People won’t notice this due to their innocence or due to their unformed and erroneous conscience.

Korra and Asami were just best friends. So if I get complimented by my best girl-friend and I blush, does that mean I have feelings for her? Heck no! There are many reasons why people blush. Korra was like a tomboy, and a change of image made her look more feminine, the hair moved as the wind blew. Of course that a compliment will make her blush, she is not used to it.

Being in Korra’s shoes, she felt that the boys wouldn’t understand what she was going through and so she wrote to her best friend only: Asami. There is no need to read too much into it.

Boelin had his girlfriend and Macko was a workaholic, Asami had free time and so did Korra, and decided to go on a vacation like best friends. What’s wrong with that? They held hands just to enter the portal, an unknown world to Asami. Why read too much into that?

 

[GenerationZ]

I am a big fan of the Legend of Korra, as are many of my friends. It’s a great show for kids, teenagers, and adults alike.

Admittedly, though, the show had a rather large number of shortcomings (too many characters, mishandled arcs, pointless romance subplots, rushed development for villains, and so on). I even abandoned the series after being terribly disappointed with how much Book 1 resembled bad fan fiction… but I came back to the show when the creators promised to deemphasize all the dumb teen romance stuff in Book 3.

Though the show had its flaws, it also consisted of some truly impressive things, and the series only got better and more daring as it continued. Despite Korra’s convenient amnesia and Bolin’s sloppy characterization, Book 2 was still pretty decent. Book 3 was absolutely amazing. And Book 4 was an enormously entertaining adventure to wrap everything up.

In regards to the ending… I mean, it was pretty obvious that there was something romantic going on between Korra and Asami throughout that final season. Most of the attentive fans could tell they had feelings for each other. That being said, I never thought the show’s creators would go as far as they when it came to openly displaying that bond, nor did I think the show would choose to end on a shot of them romantically gazing into each other’s eyes while holding hands. I found that to be quite shocking, even though the relationship itself was not unexpected.

In my opinion, though, it seemed like a weird thing to focus on the ending. It was just a bit out of place. The creators have claimed that their ending was thematically appropriate, but I have serious doubts about that being true. However, I’m willing forgive all that because the reaction videos to the finale have provided me an endless source of entertainment (plus there is the whole “making history” thing, which is all well and good I guess). At least Korra and Mako didn’t end up together. That would have been just plain awful compared to the show’s relatively harmless conclusion.

None of my friends seemed bothered with the ending at all. In fact, a lot of them thought it was pretty neat, since those types of relationships are not often depicted in children entertainment. Nowadays, though, that seems to be changing.

Regardless of how one’s view the ending, it’s hard to deny the ending to Legend of Korra is actually just the beginning of a new chapter for children’s entertainment. It’s not the first children’s show to feature LGBTQ representation, and it certainly won’t be the last.

To those who feel upset or disappointed with the ending, I implore you to look up reaction videos of people watching the finale. Then you will understand why the creators did what they did. They certainly know their show’s fan base (or at least the most passionate and vocal segments of it). With this ending, not only did the creators cement Legend of Korra as one of the most progressive children’s show on television (or rather the internet), but they also brought so much joy to so many fans. Some people were driven to tears by how satisfying the ending was. And while I personally didn’t really care whether Korra ended up with anyone in the finale, the fan base’s outpour of elation has become somewhat infectious, in the sense that I’m happy that they’re so happy.

 

[Musikero31]

I would love to see Granny Toph and Zuko’s daughter (which I don’t know who’s is the mother), but… the ending of it sucks!

Which reminds me, what was Korra’s Legend? Why was she legendary? At least with Aang, I know how he grew and became the Avatar. But Korra? Nah!

 

[Musikero31]

I would love to see Granny Toph and Zuko’s daughter (which I don’t know who’s is the mother), but… the ending of it sucks!

Which reminds me, what was Korra’s Legend? Why was she legendary? At least with Aang, I know how he grew and became the Avatar. But Korra? Nah!

I forgot to add this one…

 

[gweetarplayer]

My children and I were fans of The Last Airbender so I bought the DVDs of the first three books of Korra when they came out. The fourth season is set to be released in March and I just learned about the strongly implied homosexual ending of the series. I don’t understand why animators of a popular cartoon series feel obligated to take a stand on gay acceptance and put something out about it that many children will want to watch. The creators of the series are being praised by many non-Christians but I find it offensive and particularly inappropriate for a young audience.

Sadly the series is ruined for me, and I have lost all respect for the series creators. I will pray for them but will not buy or allow my children to see the DVD.

Matthew 18:6