Any Episcopalians here?

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Hey everyone! I was just wondering if there are any Episcopalians on this board? Being a Christian Humanist, I think that the Episcopal Church would be a good fit for me. I am seriously considering visiting one tomorrow. If there are any Episcopalians on here, please send me a PM or post a message on my wall. I don’t accept e-mails through this site so you wouldn’t be able to e-mail me unless I give you my e-mail address. But anyway, if you are Episcopalian, what is your experience with this church? Former Episcopalians feel free to comment as well. 🙂 I honestly don’t think that the Catholic Church would be a good fit for me as I am a rather progressive individual but if you wish to try and convince me that the Catholic Church is better, then go ahead. 🙂 That’s not an invitation but a welcome. ;)😛 I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for the fact that I am interested in the Catholic Church to a certain extent. 🙂
 
I have been attending an Episcopal church for almost 2 years now. The Episcopal Church can be a pretty mixed bag. The are parishes that are very liturgical (High Church) that tend to worship like catholic churches. There are very evangelical (Low Church) that more resemble reformed churches. Social issues can range from parish to parish as well. Some leaning conservative and some leaning liberal. The national govening body and most parishes tend toward liberal social views. Most of the conservatives just recently left to establish their own church.

The main differnece between the Catholic Church and the Episcopal Church is that the Catholic Church has a more narrow view of theology and morals and the episcopalians tend to be more broad in allowing a diversity of opinion on everything from sacraments and justification to abortion and homosexuality.

The only real reasons to join the RCC in my opinion are that you actually agree with 100% what they are teaching and you want to join a church that excludes ideas you personally disagree with or you believe their assertion that they are the one true church that Jesus Christ founded as the instrument of your salvation. I have never known anybody who was the former. Most Catholic converts accept the “one true church” idea and conform their other views to church teaching afterwards. The narrowly defined teaching is a comfort to many catholics assuring them that God loves them by giving them a sense of religious certainty.
 
There are some here. I see CARV has replied. I’m not but I’ve had a Catholic or 2 more hardcore than I try to get me in there. 🙂 To be fair they try to get me to be more hardcore and conservative too. 🙂 I have heard TEC described sometimes as “Catholic Lite”. This may be because as CARV suggested the official body and many parishes are more liberal than Rome allows while some tending to have a “Catholic liturgical style” of worship. In some cases I’ve heard of Catholics attending an Episcopal service and the demeanor of the service feels to them very much to what they are used to. Also officially TEC believes in a physical Real Presence from what I understand. Although their Communion, unlike the Catholic Eucharist, is open to anyone baptized in the Trinity form. God bless you on your faith journey and where you land, peace to you always.
 
No, I am not an Episcopalian, but I belong to a denomination that is in full communion with them: and the United Methodists, Presbyterians, Moravians, United Church of Christ and Reformed Church in America.
 
I would say that if you desribed yourself as a “Christian Humanist”, you are going to find a place in most mainline protestant denominations. You would probably be a bad fit for the Roman Catholic Church, Orthodox Church (both of them), and probably fundamentalist reformed churches.
 
No, I am not an Episcopalian, but I belong to a denomination that is in full communion with them: and the United Methodists, Presbyterians, Moravians, United Church of Christ and Reformed Church in America.
LutheranTeach, I didn’t think all of those believed in a physical RP though. You can still be in full communion? I’m not arguing that is a bad thing. Just wondering how ya’ll do it.
 
I have been attending an Episcopal church for almost 2 years now. The Episcopal Church can be a pretty mixed bag. The are parishes that are very liturgical (High Church) that tend to worship like catholic churches. There are very evangelical (Low Church) that more resemble reformed churches. Social issues can range from parish to parish as well. Some leaning conservative and some leaning liberal. The national govening body and most parishes tend toward liberal social views. Most of the conservatives just recently left to establish their own church.

The main differnece between the Catholic Church and the Episcopal Church is that the Catholic Church has a more narrow view of theology and morals and the episcopalians tend to be more broad in allowing a diversity of opinion on everything from sacraments and justification to abortion and homosexuality.

The only real reasons to join the RCC in my opinion are that you actually agree with 100% what they are teaching and you want to join a church that excludes ideas you personally disagree with or you believe their assertion that they are the one true church that Jesus Christ founded as the instrument of your salvation. I have never known anybody who was the former. Most Catholic converts accept the “one true church” idea and conform their other views to church teaching afterwards. The narrowly defined teaching is a comfort to many catholics assuring them that God loves them by giving them a sense of religious certainty.
Ah okay! Thanks! I am not entirely sure what the Episcopal Church in my area is like. I do know that the Episcopal Church in my state has a female Bishop though. I like that. 🙂
There are some here. I see CARV has replied. I’m not but I’ve had a Catholic or 2 more hardcore than I try to get me in there. 🙂 To be fair they try to get me to be more hardcore and conservative too. 🙂 I have heard TEC described sometimes as “Catholic Lite”. This may be because as CARV suggested the official body and many parishes are more liberal than Rome allows while some tending to have a “Catholic liturgical style” of worship. In some cases I’ve heard of Catholics attending an Episcopal service and the demeanor of the service feels to them very much to what they are used to. Also officially TEC believes in a physical Real Presence from what I understand. Although their Communion, unlike the Catholic Eucharist, is open to anyone baptized in the Trinity form. God bless you on your faith journey and where you land, peace to you always.
Thanks! I honestly found that to be rather surprising that some tried to get you to be more hardcore and conservative. I am guessing that you are kind of in the middle of the theological spectrum? Or perhaps you’re already “hardcore and conservative” (in quotes because I am using your words) and these people simply tried to get you to be more so? That said, if you don’t wish to share what part of the theological spectrum you are on, that is fine. Also, if you’d rather PM me about it, feel free to do that as well. 🙂

That said, I have done some research about the Episcopal Church in the past and I did know about their open Communion practice. I personally agree with this. I do not believe that Jesus would exclude anyone from receiving His most sacred body and blood that are baptized. Of course, I could be wrong as I am most definitely not Jesus. I’m just an amateur theologian with some theories of my own on different doctrines and such. I guess you could say, though, that although I am a progressive, I am also fairly mainline when it comes to doctrine and such. I do believe in the Virgin Birth of Jesus, the real and physical death and resurrection of Jesus on a cross, that the Bible is inspired, etc. I also most definitely believe in the orthodox version of the Trinity. In fact, I love the Athanasian Creed. Here it is for your reference:

ccel.org/creeds/athanasian.creed.html

That said, I really don’t know a whole lot about the Athanasian Creed (such as the date that it was formulated and by whom and all that) but I do know that it is a very good summary of the orthodox teaching of the Trinity. The only part that I have trouble with is its reference to the Church as Catholic. I am not sure if that is just the modern translation of it or if the Church Fathers who formulated literally used the word Catholic. That said, I suppose it could also be possible that the term “Catholic” back then meant the “Universal Church”. I personally choose to believe the latter more than the other theories.

That said, may God bless you on your faith journey as well. May He bless all of us Christians on our journey of faith (and indeed all those who have some sort of faith in God) and lead us all to the truth! 🙂
No, I am not an Episcopalian, but I belong to a denomination that is in full communion with them: and the United Methodists, Presbyterians, Moravians, United Church of Christ and Reformed Church in America.
Ah okay. That is pretty cool. I did not know that the United Methodists, Presbyterians, Moravians, United Church of Christ, and Reformed Church in America were in full communion with the Episcopal Church. That makes me feel quite a bit better about the possibility of joining the Episcopal Church in the future. Of course, if I do choose to join, it probably will not be for at least a few months because I want to be 100% certain that this is the path that I am going to choose for myself.
 
I would say that if you desribed yourself as a “Christian Humanist”, you are going to find a place in most mainline protestant denominations. You would probably be a bad fit for the Roman Catholic Church, Orthodox Church (both of them), and probably fundamentalist reformed churches.
Ah okay. Thanks! 🙂 Yeah, I kind of gathered the fact that I probably wouldn’t be a good fit for the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church for myself. 😉 I am not saying that the differences between these two Churches and my own faith are so vast that I hold any animosity towards these faiths or towards their believers but I am saying that I just don’t see myself fitting in to those two Churches easily. I do, however, see myself fitting into a mainline church like the Episcopal Church. I have considered the United Church of Christ as one possibility in the past but I never really liked the way that they come from the Reformed background. I have nothing against those who are believers of the Reformed faiths but I simply do not agree with their teachings. I may be wrong in saying this but I am thinking that the Reformed Churches are more Calvinistic in their teachings than most, right?
LutheranTeach, I didn’t think all of those believed in a physical RP though. You can still be in full communion? I’m not arguing that is a bad thing. Just wondering how ya’ll do it.
As far as I am aware, the Episcopal Church is like any other Church where there are a variety of beliefs. There are going to be some in the Episcopal Church who believe in the Real Presence and some in the Episcopal Church who don’t. This is the same with the Catholic Church. There are some members of the Catholic Church who believe in the Real Presence and some who don’t. I’d say it’s pretty much the same with other doctrines/dogmas as well. That said, I am thinking that the Catholic Church is more dogmatic than the Episcopal Church. Would I be correct in saying this?
 
I would say that if you desribed yourself as a “Christian Humanist”, you are going to find a place in most mainline protestant denominations. You would probably be a bad fit for the Roman Catholic Church, Orthodox Church (both of them), and probably fundamentalist reformed churches.
One Catholic wouldn’t. He is one of the earliest and greatest men to be a Christian Humanist. His name was Thomas More. SAINT Thomas More.

He was a good fit.

Blessings,

Gerry
 
Hey everyone! I was just wondering if there are any Episcopalians on this board? Being a Christian Humanist, I think that the Episcopal Church would be a good fit for me. I am seriously considering visiting one tomorrow. If there are any Episcopalians on here, please send me a PM or post a message on my wall. I don’t accept e-mails through this site so you wouldn’t be able to e-mail me unless I give you my e-mail address. But anyway, if you are Episcopalian, what is your experience with this church? Former Episcopalians feel free to comment as well. 🙂 I honestly don’t think that the Catholic Church would be a good fit for me as I am a rather progressive individual but if you wish to try and convince me that the Catholic Church is better, then go ahead. 🙂 That’s not an invitation but a welcome. ;)😛 I wouldn’t be here if it wasn’t for the fact that I am interested in the Catholic Church to a certain extent. 🙂
Why don’t you just become a Catholic? I mean, your’e already on the website, and you can clearly see that there’s just SOMETHING about it that is way better then Episcopalians, such as the none openly gay Bishops that make obscure claims like referring to the Old Testament as hateful. I mean why not drop the wierd post freshman year of college pseduosyncratic religo philosophies (Christian humanist?🤷 ) and just go with the Catholic church. We’re cool :cool: , and we’re basically responsible for, everything you see around you in some historical way (you know, we killed off/converted all those evil pagans in the past so that you all might enjoy the liberty to “break off and form your own denominations” and freely worship in a country with the seperation of church and state, which was basically invented by Christianity (NOT some “Christian Humanist” or “Episcopalian”).

-Snakemauler
 
Why the attraction to Episcopalians anyway? Is it because they’re “similiar to the Roman Catholic church, called the one true church” but don’t have a pope (which everyone has a problem with ) and are more cool with gays?
 
LutheranTeach, I didn’t think all of those believed in a physical RP though. You can still be in full communion? I’m not arguing that is a bad thing. Just wondering how ya’ll do it.
All of them believe in a real presence, their definitions may not match 100% but all believe in a real presence.
 
Why don’t you just become a Catholic? I mean, your’e already on the website, and you can clearly see that there’s just SOMETHING about it that is way better then Episcopalians, such as the none openly gay Bishops that make obscure claims like referring to the Old Testament as hateful. I mean why not drop the wierd post freshman year of college pseduosyncratic religo philosophies (Christian humanist?🤷 ) and just go with the Catholic church. We’re cool :cool: , and we’re basically responsible for, everything you see around you in some historical way (you know, we killed off/converted all those evil pagans in the past so that you all might enjoy the liberty to “break off and form your own denominations” and freely worship in a country with the seperation of church and state, which was basically invented by Christianity (NOT some “Christian Humanist” or “Episcopalian”).

-Snakemauler
I do not understand. Is there some sort of a problem with my post? Also, why would you say that my post is a “weird post freshman year of college pseudeosyncratic” thing? I never said that Catholics killed off all of those “evil pagans” in the past so that we might “break off and form our own denominations”. I also never said anything about separation of Church and State. That said, if I have offended you somehow, I do apologize. As for “Christian Humanists”, I see no problem with that title. I mean, if you have a problem with it then that is fine by me. I am not asking you to agree with everything I post. It does, however, seem that you are asking me to agree with everything that the Catholic Church teaches. Why, I don’t know. I suppose it is because you believe that the Catholic Church is the one true Church, right? If so, that is fine. Feel free to believe that. Personally, I do not believe that any one church has a monopoly on the truth.
Why the attraction to Episcopalians anyway? Is it because they’re “similiar to the Roman Catholic church, called the one true church” but don’t have a pope (which everyone has a problem with ) and are more cool with gays?
I am attracted to the Episcopalians for various reasons and no, it is not just the fact that they are “more cool with gays”. I mean, admittedly, I do like that fact but it is not the main reason why I like the Episcopal Church. I like the Episcopal Church because it is a friendly church with lots of good people involved. It is a church that is active in the “social gospel”. I like that. I do believe Jesus’ call to minister to our fellow brothers and sisters in humanity as though they are Jesus Himself. I am not saying that you don’t believe this. Also, the most important thing about the Episcopal Church in my opinion is that I believe they have valid sacraments. I believe that the Catholics and Orthodox also have valid sacraments.

But anyway, again, if I said anything to offend you, I do apologize. My intent was not to offend but to converse.
 
All of them believe in a real presence, their definitions may not match 100% but all believe in a real presence.
I have heard about this before. I never really did understand it completely but if they all claim to believe in the Real Presence then they really do. Just because one church doesn’t believe in a particular version of the Real Presence does not believe that they disbelieve in the doctrine altogether.
 
One Catholic wouldn’t. He is one of the earliest and greatest men to be a Christian Humanist. His name was Thomas More. SAINT Thomas More.

He was a good fit.

Blessings,

Gerry
He sounds like a very interesting person. 🙂 I enjoy studying about saints and such. 🙂 If you wish, do post more info about him. 👍
 
I am not an Episcopalian. I am a Roman Catholic. However, I have experimented with Episcopalianism in the past. Sometimes I still get interested in it but I don’t really think that it is the true Church you know. I mean, I do believe that Jesus ordained only males as deacons, priests, and bishops. Plus, I believe that in order for there to be a valid Eucharist, there must be a valid priest. And a woman cannot be a valid priest. Of course, I know some people believe differently but it doesn’t matter to me if others hold different beliefs.

Everyone has different beliefs about various things. Sometimes its not even about religion. Sometimes people believe that Santa Clause is a real magical being who goes down chimneys to deliver presents every Christmas Eve and also flies around in a magical sleigh driven by magical reindeer. Of course, just because someone believes that doesn’t make it true.
 
I think you should continue to search for what is TRUE, not what seems to fit with your ideas. Your ideas could be wrong.
 
I am not an Episcopalian. I am a Roman Catholic. However, I have experimented with Episcopalianism in the past. Sometimes I still get interested in it but I don’t really think that it is the true Church you know. I mean, I do believe that Jesus ordained only males as deacons, priests, and bishops. Plus, I believe that in order for there to be a valid Eucharist, there must be a valid priest. And a woman cannot be a valid priest. Of course, I know some people believe differently but it doesn’t matter to me if others hold different beliefs.

Everyone has different beliefs about various things. Sometimes its not even about religion. Sometimes people believe that Santa Clause is a real magical being who goes down chimneys to deliver presents every Christmas Eve and also flies around in a magical sleigh driven by magical reindeer. Of course, just because someone believes that doesn’t make it true.
Exactly. At the time the Apostle Paul even believed women should not even speak in churches.
 
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