Any good debates on Matthew 16:18?

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I tried to find one but I couldn’t at least on youtube, but also I put in good cause I don’t want to find one watch an hour of it then notice it wasn’t that good of a debate.
 
I meant the magnifying glass at the upper right hand of this website. Lots of questions regarding that scripture passage.
 
I don’t know how there can be any debate about what the passage means. Even a hardened Protestant committed to sola scriptura can read that the passage and interpret a clarity in acknowledging Peter as the “human” founder of the church. He even granted authority in Peter bind on earth the teaching of God. There is no doubt in my mind what scripture says. It is clear that Jesus intended there to be one church. There still is one Christian church, however the family is divided because of unfortunate circumstances through history.
 
I want to see a good debate on this verse, any recommendations?
St. John Damascene – Commentary on the Gospel of Matthew (Book XII)
11. The Promise Given to Peter Not Restricted to Him, But Applicable to All Disciples Like Him.
But if you suppose that upon that one Peter only the whole church is built by God, what would you say about John the son of thunder or each one of the Apostles? Shall we otherwise dare to say, that against Peter in particular the gates of Hades shall not prevail, but that they shall prevail against the other Apostles and the perfect? Does not the saying previously made, The gates of Hades shall not prevail against it, Matthew 16:18 hold in regard to all and in the case of each of them? And also the saying, Upon this rock I will build My church? Matthew 16:18 Are the keys of the kingdom of heaven given by the Lord to Peter only, and will no other of the blessed receive them? But if this promise, I will give unto you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, Matthew 16:19 be common to the others, how shall not all the things previously spoken of, and the things which are subjoined as having been addressed to Peter, be common to them?

And so in regard to all His other names, you will apply them by way of surname to the saints; and to all such the saying of the Saviour might be spoken, You are Peter, etc., down to the words, prevail against it. But what is the it? Is it the rock upon which Christ builds the church, or is it the church? For the phrase is ambiguous. Or is it as if the rock and the church were one and the same? This I think to be true; for neither against the rock on which Christ builds the church, nor against the church will the gates of Hades prevail; just as the way of a serpent upon a rock, according to what is written in the Proverbs, cannot be found. Now, if the gates of Hades prevail against any one, such an one cannot be a rock upon which Christ builds the church, nor the church built by Jesus upon the rock; for the rock is inaccessible to the serpent, and it is stronger than the gates of Hades which are opposing it, so that because of its strength the gates of Hades do not prevail against it; but the church, as a building of Christ who built His own house wisely upon the rock, Matthew 7:24 is incapable of admitting the gates of Hades which prevail against every man who is outside the rock and the church, but have no power against it.
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/101612.htm
 
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