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And i use Catholic GraceNot at all offensive. Anybody can pray any prayer. I sometimes say a form of Grace that is originally Protestant.
And i use Catholic GraceNot at all offensive. Anybody can pray any prayer. I sometimes say a form of Grace that is originally Protestant.
No it’s not offensive. I think its very ecumenical.I occasionally pray the Litany of the Holy Name, it is downloaded onto my computer, along with two or three others, the Nicene Creed, and an English translation of the Dies Irae, which I also use.
I have parts of them memorized…
Do Catholics think it is okay for NCC’s (non-Catholic Christian) to do this? It’s not considered offensive or sacrilegious for NCC’s to do what you mentioned?
Zirconia
I know that Manny had answered you about the Divine Chaplet, but I wasn’t sure if anyone had mentioned about Rosary to you.What is Divine chaplet and station of the cross huh??, but i got Catholic frez who didn’t pray Rosary daily, probably once in a blue moon kind…the rest i do know
Generally speaking Anglicans and Lutherans are more “open” to catholic prayers, although there are many other protestants who will do it, I was surprised when i typed Lutheran rosary into Google, or protestant rosary, i have a prayer book that’s catholic so i say allot of catholic prayersI know of a good number of Lutherans who do the Rosary. It’s not exacty the same, but very similar. I’ve considered buying a rosary myself.
What are hand-knotted rosaries Zooey?And, of course, foranyone who hasn’thttp://bestsmileys.com/talking/2.gif heard mehttp://bestsmileys.com/talking/2.gif say so yet, I make hand-knotted rosaries for Rosary Army, as well as give them away to other individuals & groups…
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Well the Chaplet is about the Passion of Jesus, so that is what you would concentrate on, and offering the pains and suffering of the Passion to God for Mercy for the whole world.Oh and i forgot, do we also meditate on the same mysteries like in a regular rosary![]()
What a wonderful story!! It almost brought a tear to my eye. Well done and God be with youIn 1990 I was engaged in doing an abortion rescue up in Vermont, and as usually happens we were dragged off by the police an thrown into jail. There were 95 of us, approx. 65% Catholics and 35% non-Catholic Christians (mostly Evangelicals, 7th Day Adventists, Pentecostals, and a few Fundamentalists). Also in the mix were 3 Catholic priests and 3 Pentecostal ministers.
After getting things organized (we had open cells, so we could gather and talk to each other freely) the priests arranged to do Mass each day, rotating among the three of them. They invited all of us to come – Catholics and non-Catholics alike. The Pentacostal ministers soon arranged to have daily services in another part of the confinement area, and they also invited all to attend – non-Catholic Christians and Catholics alike. The priests encouraged us to help support the Pentacostal services, because so few non-Catholics attended. So, many of us did.
We Catholics arranged to pray the rosary – one before each meal – and many of us signed up for a 1/2 hr. spot on a “perpetual rosary” that went on 24/7. In addition to that, a local church sent in an old monstrance – so we had 1 1/2 hours of Adoration each day out on the sun porch. Some of the local rectories and convents sent in Breviaries, and the priests and seminarians among us taught us how to do the Divine Office.
After about 1 1/2 months we noticed that some of the non-Catholic Christians were starting to attend when we said the rosaries before meals. And, before long, those same people were starting to wear the rosary beads around their necks – like a Catholic would wear a scapular or Miraculous Medal.
I’d say that only about 5 or 6 of the non-Catholic Christians eventually joined us and helped say the rosaries and other Catholic devotional prayers that went on during the day…but it seemed that quite a few more were becoming interested by the time we were finally bounced out. All-in-all we were there 70 days, and surprisingly enough most of the infighting that went on was within the ranks of the non-Catholics having verbal duels with each other…Pentacostal vs. Fundamentalist…7th Day Adventist vs. Evangelicals…etc. There were a few skirmishes going with the Catholics too…hyper-orthodox Catholics (we had a few) vs. ordinary Catholics. It was rare, however, to see a Catholic vs. non-Catholic debate going on.
Now, each day when we would participate in Holy Mass, there would be ‘open petitions’ where anyone could offer up their own petition. At each Mass, without fail, at least one – or sometimes two or three people – would offer up the petition “for the healing of the people in the next building”…and everyone would respond, of course “Lord, hear our prayer.” The prison where we were being held was a mental institution, and the people in the “next building” were the Hannibal Lectors of Vermont – the people so seriously criminally-insane that they would never be released back into society.
About 2 months after we had been there, one of the priests was sitting out on the sun porch when a guard walked by. Even though there was a heavy (name removed by moderator)enetrable screen separating them, the guard yelled in at the priest…“Hey man…are you one of them there ‘John Does’?” Fr. Tom said “Yes, I am” (we were all ‘John Doe’ or ‘Jane Doe’). Then the guard said “Well, I just wanted to tell you somethin. Ya see, I work over in dat other building, and the most amazin things been happening over there! People who been there 20 & 30 years – some of them – been gettin’ cured left 'n right! And I’ve been thinkin about it, and I noticed that it all started when you people got thrown in here.”
That evening, Fr. Tom shared that story with us as we were all having our dinner in the common area. He reminded us that we always mentioned the people in the “other building” in our Mass petitions, and that apparently it was having some effect.
After that, the few non-Catholic Christians who were ‘on-the-fence’ about saying Catholic prayers or attending Mass – decided to become more involved in the Catholic prayer life. At least 2 of them even decided to become Catholic when we were eventually released.
I thought that I would share that with you. There was a very great reluctance, at first, for non-Catholics to do any Catholic prayers…maybe peer pressure, or pressure from their ministers…or maybe just internal convictions. But, eventually we all felt comfortable interacting with each other and praying with each other…in small private little groups…or at Mass…or at Adoration (yes, quite a few non-Catholics attended this too!). I think that God was smiling down at us, seeing what had become of us as we were forced to live together for so long.
God bless you!
John
I forgot about this story until you said something…my dad was a Lutheran pastor. A couple days after he died we got a card in the mail from ROME saying that a mass was being said for him at the big basilica there. It was pretty crazy. What does that mean?At my father’s (Catholic) funeral, one of his Lutheran cousins donated money to have Masses said for him.
I like the Stations of the Cross. I’m still learning about the Rosary. I don’t really know much of anything about Divine Chaplet.May the Peace in Jesus Christ, Our Lord be with you Always,
I’m not sure if this topic would fall under this thread. I had debated whether this would be in the Spiritual Section.
Anyways, are there an Non-Catholic Christians in the Protestant circles who practice Catholic devotional prayers like the Divine Chaplet, Rosary, Station of the Cross, etc?
I like to know if there are. I would like to refrain from debating on this issue and share a common ground Catholics and Non-Catholic Christians have.
So please, my Protestant brothers and sisters, refrain from derailing this thread. I don’t want to hear that Catholic devotions are bad and not fruitful. I do want to hear that if you do practice Catholic devotional prayers, I like to know, and why you pray it.
If you don’t. Just explain you don’t but don’t disrespect these prayers in any tone that disregard Christian charity.
You could use it as a mini-Rosary (mediate on the Sorrowful Mysteries only).Well the Chaplet is about the Passion of Jesus, so that is what you would concentrate on, and offering the pains and suffering of the Passion to God for Mercy for the whole world.
So the only mystery you have to think about is the Passion, and you’ll see why if you pray it.
" For the sake of His Sorrowful Passion, have Mercy on us and on the whole world "
Your not a non-catholic, your more Catholic than you think, come back home!.I pray the Rosary about 3 times a week. I’m planning to do the Divine MercyNovena that begins on Good Friday. I am not a good example of protestants who pray Catholic prayers. I was Catholic and still hold to church teaching in alot of ways. I’m sure my adult sunday school class is tired of me prefacing things with- “In the catholic church we…” or “In RCIA I learned that…”I doubt theres another person on this board who prays catholic prayers. I could be wrong. I hope I am.
I do at least half of that too and I’ve never been Catholic.I pray the Rosary about 3 times a week. I’m planning to do the Divine MercyNovena that begins on Good Friday. I am not a good example of protestants who pray Catholic prayers. I was Catholic and still hold to church teaching in alot of ways. I’m sure my adult sunday school class is tired of me prefacing things with- “In the catholic church we…” or “In RCIA I learned that…”I doubt theres another person on this board who prays catholic prayers. I could be wrong. I hope I am.
I suggest you get some Scott Haun Dvd’s, (he was a Presbyterian Minster too) I think you would really like him. God is leading you Home. I have always felt that wearing the Scapular is like having the arms of our Blessed Mother around me at all times.I’m a Presbyterian minister, and for over 30 years now I’ve been occasionally praying the rosary. Over the past year and a half I’ve also taken to wearing a scapular; yes, the itchy wool kind.
My father is also a Presbyterian minister. My mother is a Lutheran of rather Romeward inclination. So some strands of favorable inclination toward Catholic spirituality were there already in my upbringing.
In college there was a friend of mine who was a devout Catholic. (He later entered a monastery.) We used to discuss our faith. He gave me a rosary which had been blessed by Padre Pio; also a book, The Secret of the Rosary by St. Louis de Montfort. I still have and treasure these, and yes, I make use of that rosary. Not as often as I might, but still, for a Presbyterian…
Then about a year and a half ago the scapular entered the picture for me. I guess it seems like a reasonable progression from the rosary, eh? Of course I’m in no position to get enrolled; but wearing the scapular (pretty much 24/7, unless I’m in the shower) has assumed great devotional importance to me.
I don’t pretend to understand how and why God has led me into these devotions; and some of it, like I say, goes back more than 30 years. But… there you have it.
Wow, thank you for sharing. I love the part where the people in the other building were being cured left & right!! Wow! I would love to see the “based on a true story” movie!! I would watch it in a heartbeat. You should write a book about your experience!I am a Roman Catholic, but I have had some experience with non-Catholic friends of mine – praying Catholic prayers.
In 1990 I was engaged in doing an abortion rescue up in Vermont, and as usually happens we were dragged off by the police an thrown into jail. There were 95 of us, approx. 65% Catholics and 35% non-Catholic Christians (mostly Evangelicals, 7th Day Adventists, Pentecostals, and a few Fundamentalists). Also in the mix were 3 Catholic priests and 3 Pentecostal ministers.
After getting things organized (we had open cells, so we could gather and talk to each other freely) the priests arranged to do Mass each day, rotating among the three of them. They invited all of us to come – Catholics and non-Catholics alike. The Pentacostal ministers soon arranged to have daily services in another part of the confinement area, and they also invited all to attend – non-Catholic Christians and Catholics alike. The priests encouraged us to help support the Pentacostal services, because so few non-Catholics attended. So, many of us did.
We Catholics arranged to pray the rosary – one before each meal – and many of us signed up for a 1/2 hr. spot on a “perpetual rosary” that went on 24/7. In addition to that, a local church sent in an old monstrance – so we had 1 1/2 hours of Adoration each day out on the sun porch. Some of the local rectories and convents sent in Breviaries, and the priests and seminarians among us taught us how to do the Divine Office.
After about 1 1/2 months we noticed that some of the non-Catholic Christians were starting to attend when we said the rosaries before meals. And, before long, those same people were starting to wear the rosary beads around their necks – like a Catholic would wear a scapular or Miraculous Medal.
I’d say that only about 5 or 6 of the non-Catholic Christians eventually joined us and helped say the rosaries and other Catholic devotional prayers that went on during the day…but it seemed that quite a few more were becoming interested by the time we were finally bounced out. All-in-all we were there 70 days, and surprisingly enough most of the infighting that went on was within the ranks of the non-Catholics having verbal duels with each other…Pentacostal vs. Fundamentalist…7th Day Adventist vs. Evangelicals…etc. There were a few skirmishes going with the Catholics too…hyper-orthodox Catholics (we had a few) vs. ordinary Catholics. It was rare, however, to see a Catholic vs. non-Catholic debate going on.
Now, each day when we would participate in Holy Mass, there would be ‘open petitions’ where anyone could offer up their own petition. At each Mass, without fail, at least one – or sometimes two or three people – would offer up the petition “for the healing of the people in the next building”…and everyone would respond, of course “Lord, hear our prayer.” The prison where we were being held was a mental institution, and the people in the “next building” were the Hannibal Lectors of Vermont – the people so seriously criminally-insane that they would never be released back into society.
About 2 months after we had been there, one of the priests was sitting out on the sun porch when a guard walked by. Even though there was a heavy (name removed by moderator)enetrable screen separating them, the guard yelled in at the priest…“Hey man…are you one of them there ‘John Does’?” Fr. Tom said “Yes, I am” (we were all ‘John Doe’ or ‘Jane Doe’). Then the guard said “Well, I just wanted to tell you somethin. Ya see, I work over in dat other building, and the most amazin things been happening over there! People who been there 20 & 30 years – some of them – been gettin’ cured left 'n right! And I’ve been thinkin about it, and I noticed that it all started when you people got thrown in here.”
That evening, Fr. Tom shared that story with us as we were all having our dinner in the common area. He reminded us that we always mentioned the people in the “other building” in our Mass petitions, and that apparently it was having some effect.
After that, the few non-Catholic Christians who were ‘on-the-fence’ about saying Catholic prayers or attending Mass – decided to become more involved in the Catholic prayer life. At least 2 of them even decided to become Catholic when we were eventually released.
I thought that I would share that with you. There was a very great reluctance, at first, for non-Catholics to do any Catholic prayers…maybe peer pressure, or pressure from their ministers…or maybe just internal convictions. But, eventually we all felt comfortable interacting with each other and praying with each other…in small private little groups…or at Mass…or at Adoration (yes, quite a few non-Catholics attended this too!). I think that God was smiling down at us, seeing what had become of us as we were forced to live together for so long.
God bless you!
John