Any Non-Catholic Christian practice Catholic Devotions?

[AlegreFe]

Well, let me say this. As the lady said, a lot of Anglo-Catholics and others within the Anglican Community are thinking of converting to Roman Catholicism. The current rumblings within the Episcopal Church certainly had to have a part in that, and when you look at it carefully it has in large part to do with the ordination of gays and the Church’s views on homosexuality. It may be all well and good to love all men and women - after all, God does love the sinner and hate the sin - but for goodness’ sake let’s not for one minute forget the Old Testament and the unequivocal statement that such a sin is an abomination in God’s sight. If a person is willingly committing an abominable sin, should that person be admitted to Holy Orders? Folks, we are talking about some very serious things here and when a grave sin becomes acceptable in society and in some churches, we have to take a step back, look at what is happening, and ask ourselves how we got this way. Then we have to ask ourselves, too, whether we want our church to be a reflection of society or a beacon pointing the way to holiness, tthe way to obedience, the way to God.

Give me the beacon. God doesn’t lead people to abomination; his Son calls them to righteousness!

• Julian

The beacon is on and shining brightly for you Julian.

Jesus is the Mirror of Truth, Symbol of Unity & Link of Charity.
With Him we can do anything!

Maybe I’m answering some of my own questions here, or preaching to the choir,

That’s okay. As Father Corapi says, “I’m preaching to the choir but I’m confirming you in your faith.” Alleluia! Amen!

I dunno…But! I said “give me the beacon” and I feel the Holy Spirit inspiring me.

I think I’ve got some deep thinking and praying to do this weekend. Meemaw, Sandy, everyone - pray for me as I listen to the words I’ve spoken and the words I’ve written.

• Julian

You are in my prayers Julian.

 

[Memaw]

First it is not the American Episcopal Church that has the problem but a small minority mostly in the African church. Churches in the Anglican tradition are not bound by any rule or person. The council now meeting is not binding on any church. So don’t expect that there is going to be any change in the Church overall, because it doesn’t operate that way. We are sorely sad that some of our brothers cannot get away the homosexual issue that so breaks the Catholic church.

I just heard it again on the news last night and it IS 400,000, ( don’t think thats a small minority). High Anglo-catholics that are seeking to re-unit with the Catholic Church. They are very unhappy with the way the Anglican Church has been going for the past 10 or so years. The TRUTH will set you free.

 

[AlegreFe]

Well while we’re at it, let’s not forget the Old Testament and the unequivocal statement that it’s an abomination to eat pork, or anything from the water that doesn’t have fins and scales, or birds, amongst many other things!

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them."
Matthew 5:17

Peter’s Vision
9 The next day, as they were on their journey and approaching the city, Peter went up on the housetop about the sixth hour to pray. 10 And he became hungry and wanted something to eat, but while they were preparing it, he fell into a trance 11 and saw the heavens opened and something like a great sheet descending, being let down by its four corners upon the earth. 12 In it were all kinds of animals and reptiles and birds of the air. 13 And there came a voice to him: “Rise, Peter; kill and eat.” 14 But Peter said, “By no means, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common or unclean.” 15 And the voice came to him again a second time, “What God has made clean, do not call common.” 16 This happened three times, and the thing was taken up at once to heaven.
Acts 10:9-16

Asking gay people to force themselves to be sexually attracted to a gender that they aren’t naturally attracted to is asking too much.

The Catholic Church does not force anyone to do anything. Much less force a gay person to be attracted to the opposite gender. All Christians are called to live a chaste life whether married or not, whether single or not, whether Priest or Religious or anything. And to add to that when it comes to that orientation, they are called to live a celibate life also. Unless they do get married and have children and live the best they can. I’m sure you realize that there are many “same sex attraction” people who are married to the opposite gender. I assure you that the Church has not forced that upon them.

I really don’t care what the Old Testament says, to be honest.

Well you should. It’s a huge part of Sacred Scripture.

The OT is full of laws and abominations that no one follows anymore, so who cares?

I care. The whole bible, including the Old Testament is the WORD of God.

You can’t ask someone to change their sexuality to make you happy, or to make their priest or their family happy.

As I stated before, the Church doesn’t ask this of anyone.

It’s not something everyone can control.

With God’s grace we can control whatever God wants us to control. We are not savages. We are human beings made in the image of God. We are all called to live a chaste life. A gay person’s desires are no more or no less than those of a straight person. We just happen to be attracted to different people. Heterosexuals are also supposed to control their lustful desires, and by the grace of God, we can and we do. So I know they can too.

 

[AlegreFe]

I just heard it again on the news last night and it IS 400,000, ( don’t think thats a small minority). High Anglo-catholics that are seeking to re-unit with the Catholic Church. They are very unhappy with the way the Anglican Church has been going for the past 10 or so years. The TRUTH will set you free.

This is great news. I missed last Friday’s World Over. But I’ll watch it possibly tomorrow. I have it on my DVR. Do you know if Raymond mentioned any of this on last week’s World Over? They usually have news like this on there.

 

[Memaw]

This is great news. I missed last Friday’s World Over. But I’ll watch it possibly tomorrow. I have it on my DVR. Do you know if Raymond mentioned any of this on last week’s World Over? They usually have news like this on there.

Thats where I heard it Sandy. But I had heard it before from a priest friend of mine. I hope and pray it all works out for them to re-unite with us eventually. A few weeks ago nearly 1.000 Assyrian Christian families and their Bishop were received into the Chaldean Catholic Church, (one of the many rites withing the Catholic Church under the Pope.) Maybe this is the beginning of a wonderful trend. God Bless them.

 

[Contarini]

May the Peace in Jesus Christ, Our Lord be with you Always,

I’m not sure if this topic would fall under this thread. I had debated whether this would be in the Spiritual Section.

Anyways, are there an Non-Catholic Christians in the Protestant circles who practice Catholic devotional prayers like the Divine Chaplet, Rosary, Station of the Cross, etc?

I have no problem with the Rosary and have practiced it in the past. I do not find it to be as useful for me personally as some other practices (primarily the Liturgy of the Hours), and I don’t make it a regular part of my private prayers. But I take part in it when I drop by a Catholic church and a group Rosary is going on, and sometimes when I am there on my own in front of the Sacrament.

Speaking of which, I make infrequent visits to the Blessed Sacrament in nearby Catholic churches. I go back and forth on how valuable this practice is, since I have some traditional Anglican/Protestant concerns about prioritizing adoration over communion. But I recognize that this is not an either/or, and at the very least it’s a good opportunity to be quiet and meditate–something I do too rarely.

Stations of the Cross is a practice Anglicans often do as well during Lent. I am a big fan of it, though again I probably don’t do it as often as a traditional (I use the term loosely and not in the sense of “traditionalist”) Catholic would.

My primary private devotion is the Liturgy of the Hours (in its Anglican form), and I have enough trouble being regular with that. So I don’t try to take on too many other devotions (I suffer from a tendency to flit around from one practice to another–regularity is very difficult for me).

Edwin

 

[LutheranDK]

May the Peace in Jesus Christ, Our Lord be with you Always,

I’m not sure if this topic would fall under this thread. I had debated whether this would be in the Spiritual Section.

Anyways, are there an Non-Catholic Christians in the Protestant circles who practice Catholic devotional prayers like the Divine Chaplet, Rosary, Station of the Cross, etc?

I like to know if there are. I would like to refrain from debating on this issue and share a common ground Catholics and Non-Catholic Christians have.

So please, my Protestant brothers and sisters, refrain from derailing this thread. I don’t want to hear that Catholic devotions are bad and not fruitful. I do want to hear that if you do practice Catholic devotional prayers, I like to know, and why you pray it.

If you don’t. Just explain you don’t but don’t disrespect these prayers in any tone that disregard Christian charity.

Well, yes and no.
You guys remember that topic I created a few days ago, about what difference it makes whether the actual rosary has been blessed by a priest or not? (and thank you for the replies, btw!)

I do use it, although I do of course steer clear of prayers to Mary, angels, etc. Would like to use it more fully, but I haven’t been able to find any worded prayers on Catholic websites that fall outside of these categories yet. That doesn’t mean that I rule out the possibility of finding such altogether, though.

So basically, here’s how I use it:

first pearl:
Sign of the cross and “In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit”

Second pearl:
Nicene creed (which I have long preferred to the apostolic, in that it’s more unmistakably trinitarian)

Third pearl:
The “Our Father”

Fourth pearl:
The “Glory be”

Fifth pearl:
Personal prayers for whatever is occupying my thoughts, and “my own” prayers which have almost become liturgical for me - in that I say them every time I go to bed, in the same words as the night before, and the night before that, etc.

Sixth pearl:

The Danish version of the “Now I lay me down to sleep”-prayer.

And then I put the rosary back in the drawer I have set aside for my Bibles.

Yes, and I also do the Sign of the Cross at High Mass - after the Creed, the Our Father, Holy Communion, and, finally, the Aronite blessing.

And, finally, I have begun to kneel during the consecration of Holy Communion. I remember that I thought it a strange practise when I asked an RC friend of mine (the same friend who gave me the rosary I just spoke of) of why RCs did that.
And although I have forgotten the exact wording of her reply, I have not forgotten the punchline:

“If you believe that Christ is present in the bread and wine - why don’t you kneel before it?”

And after I attended a mass in the RC church in the city where I live, as part of a “field trip”, seeing people do this, I decided that I’d take up the practise.

Hmm… I don’t know if I changed someone’s opinions and prejudices against me by writing this post - anyway, it’s the truth.

 

[lak611]

Well, yes and no.
You guys remember that topic I created a few days ago, about what difference it makes whether the actual rosary has been blessed by a priest or not? (and thank you for the replies, btw!)

I do use it, although I do of course steer clear of prayers to Mary, angels, etc. Would like to use it more fully, but I haven’t been able to find any worded prayers on Catholic websites that fall outside of these categories yet. That doesn’t mean that I rule out the possibility of finding such altogether, though.

Have you ever prayed the Divine Mercy Chaplet? That is prayed using rosary beads. I am Catholic, but I do not pray the Rosary very often. I prefer the Divine Mercy Chaplet.

 

[Memaw]

Well, yes and no.
You guys remember that topic I created a few days ago, about what difference it makes whether the actual rosary has been blessed by a priest or not? (and thank you for the replies, btw!)

I do use it, although I do of course steer clear of prayers to Mary, angels, etc. Would like to use it more fully, but I haven’t been able to find any worded prayers on Catholic websites that fall outside of these categories yet. That doesn’t mean that I rule out the possibility of finding such altogether, though.

So basically, here’s how I use it:

first pearl:
Sign of the cross and “In the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit”

Second pearl:
Nicene creed (which I have long preferred to the apostolic, in that it’s more unmistakably trinitarian)

Third pearl:
The “Our Father”

Fourth pearl:
The “Glory be”

Fifth pearl:
Personal prayers for whatever is occupying my thoughts, and “my own” prayers which have almost become liturgical for me - in that I say them every time I go to bed, in the same words as the night before, and the night before that, etc.

Sixth pearl:

The Danish version of the “Now I lay me down to sleep”-prayer.

And then I put the rosary back in the drawer I have set aside for my Bibles.

Yes, and I also do the Sign of the Cross at High Mass - after the Creed, the Our Father, Holy Communion, and, finally, the Aronite blessing.

And, finally, I have begun to kneel during the consecration of Holy Communion. I remember that I thought it a strange practise when I asked an RC friend of mine (the same friend who gave me the rosary I just spoke of) of why RCs did that.
And although I have forgotten the exact wording of her reply, I have not forgotten the punchline:

“If you believe that Christ is present in the bread and wine - why don’t you kneel before it?”

And after I attended a mass in the RC church in the city where I live, as part of a “field trip”, seeing people do this, I decided that I’d take up the practise.

Hmm… I don’t know if I changed someone’s opinions and prejudices against me by writing this post - anyway, it’s the truth.

Why are you soo afraid of the Mother of OUR LORD that you have to “steer clear” of her.? Do you think you could ever lover Her more than HE does? How do you think HE feels when you avoid talking to HIS Mother in prayer? And thats exactly what Catholics do when they pray ‘to’ Mary. We talk ‘to’ Her, ask Her to pray for us, our needs etc. We do NOT put Her on the same level as God, don’t you think we’re smarter than that!! It only shows the ignorance of those that accuse us of that. HE created Her to be the Mother of HIS SON. HE did not just randomly pick her out of the crowd. HE knew what HE was doing and GOD doesn’t do anything by chance. So when you put Mary aside and ignore Her, and what She has done for us, that is not only being very rude to the Mother of Christ but it is putting a wedge between Jesus and yourself. She stood by our Savior all the way to the Cross, not just at HIS birth. She was there when the Holy Spirit came upon them after HE arose from the dead. Whatever makes you think she will do anything BUT bring us closer to Her SON. She brought HIM to us. Most of the Hail Mary came right from Scripture. "Hail(Mary) full of Grace, the LORD is with thee. Blessed art Thou among women, and Blessed is the Fruit of Thy Womb, JESUS. The Catholic Church added, Holy Mary, Mother of GOD, (and JESUS IS GOD) pray for us SINNERS, now and at the hour of our death, AMEN.’ How in the world can you find fault with that!!! I will never understand why most protestants are so afraid to love and honor the Mother of Our Savior. Are you afraid you may really believe your own lie about worshiping Her??? Get over it, don’t you think its about time to believe us when we say, WE DO NOT WORSHIP OUR LADY!!! AND never have!!
One of the first things my future daughter-in-law asked me after she was introduced to our love for Mary, was, “I wonder why our church never taught us to love the Mother of Jesus??”

 

[Memaw]

I have no problem with the Rosary and have practiced it in the past. I do not find it to be as useful for me personally as some other practices (primarily the Liturgy of the Hours), and I don’t make it a regular part of my private prayers. But I take part in it when I drop by a Catholic church and a group Rosary is going on, and sometimes when I am there on my own in front of the Sacrament.

Speaking of which, I make infrequent visits to the Blessed Sacrament in nearby Catholic churches. I go back and forth on how valuable this practice is, since I have some traditional Anglican/Protestant concerns about prioritizing adoration over communion. But I recognize that this is not an either/or, and at the very least it’s a good opportunity to be quiet and meditate–something I do too rarely.

Stations of the Cross is a practice Anglicans often do as well during Lent. I am a big fan of it, though again I probably don’t do it as often as a traditional (I use the term loosely and not in the sense of “traditionalist”) Catholic would.

My primary private devotion is the Liturgy of the Hours (in its Anglican form), and I have enough trouble being regular with that. So I don’t try to take on too many other devotions (I suffer from a tendency to flit around from one practice to another–regularity is very difficult for me).

Edwin

Edwin, You said you make frequent visits to the Blessed Sacrament in Catholic Churches but you go back and forth on how valuable this is. You say you have some Anglican-protestant concerns about prioritizing adoration over communion. How can that be??? It is the very same Jesus. In Holy Communion, HE is coming to you, (if you are Catholic and receiving Communion at a Catholic Mass,) and in Adoration, you are going to HIM. If you are not Catholic or Orthodox, then the Adoration is as close as you can get to Jesus, unless you become Catholic.Sad to say, that is the TRUTH.

 

[LutheranDK]

Why are you soo afraid of the Mother of OUR LORD that you have to “steer clear” of her.? Do you think you could ever lover Her more than HE does? How do you think HE feels when you avoid talking to HIS Mother in prayer? And thats exactly what Catholics do when they pray ‘to’ Mary. We talk ‘to’ Her, ask Her to pray for us, our needs etc. We do NOT put Her on the same level as God, don’t you think we’re smarter than that!! It only shows the ignorance of those that accuse us of that. HE created Her to be the Mother of HIS SON. HE did not just randomly pick her out of the crowd. HE knew what HE was doing and GOD doesn’t do anything by chance. So when you put Mary aside and ignore Her, and what She has done for us, that is not only being very rude to the Mother of Christ but it is putting a wedge between Jesus and yourself. She stood by our Savior all the way to the Cross, not just at HIS birth. She was there when the Holy Spirit came upon them after HE arose from the dead. Whatever makes you think she will do anything BUT bring us closer to Her SON. She brought HIM to us. Most of the Hail Mary came right from Scripture. "Hail(Mary) full of Grace, the LORD is with thee. Blessed art Thou among women, and Blessed is the Fruit of Thy Womb, JESUS. The Catholic Church added, Holy Mary, Mother of GOD, (and JESUS IS GOD) pray for us SINNERS, now and at the hour of our death, AMEN.’ How in the world can you find fault with that!!! I will never understand why most protestants are so afraid to love and honor the Mother of Our Savior. Are you afraid you may really believe your own lie about worshiping Her??? Get over it, don’t you think its about time to believe us when we say, WE DO NOT WORSHIP OUR LADY!!! AND never have!!
One of the first things my future daughter-in-law asked me after she was introduced to our love for Mary, was, “I wonder why our church never taught us to love the Mother of Jesus??”

Whoa, whoa! Hold your horses!

1: Please tell me where I wrote that RCs worship Mary? I am fully aware of the RC belief that prayers to Mary and the saints are prayers for intercession.

2: I am not afraid of Mary.

3: From my perspective, Mary is dead, and has been for 2000 years, just as every other person will eventually die (except those of us that will still be here when The Lord returns, of course).
I do not engage in necromancy, and that is what I believe the prayers to Mary and the saints to be.

4: I do not “steer clear” of Mary herself - which is impossible as she is not here for me to steer clear of; I steer clear of prayers to her, and to the saints, for the aforementioned reason.

5: Let me turn the tables on you.
How would you like it if I came to your house, and asked your spouse to ask you for something, while you were standing right next to us?
My guess is that you’d feel that I was ignoring you, and just wanted something from you.

6: “HE created Her to be the Mother of HIS SON. HE did not just randomly pick her out of the crowd.”

That latter part is not proven fact, it is a statement of faith.
Did God choose Mary? Indeed He did.
Had His plan for the salvation of Man been impossible, if she’d said: “Forget about it!”? The blasphemy! Would God not have chosen some other anonymous peasant girl?

7: “So when you put Mary aside and ignore Her, and what She has done for us, that is not only being very rude to the Mother of Christ but it is putting a wedge between Jesus and yourself.”

Funny, that’s how I think about the devotion to Mary - as putting someone else between yourself and God, because Jesus is the terrible judge who’s just waiting for a chance to judge us for a sin, so we have to ask Mary to calm Him down…
Yes, a slightly charicated image, but isn’t it basically true?
Secondly: What has Mary done for us? Yes, she was chosen by God to be the instrument of bringing Himself into the world. No one’s denying that. But Mary herself has done nothing but what God asked her to - as His servant.

I am not being rude to “ha Theotókos” by insisting that she was a godfearing woman who did as the Lord commanded her - and not someone who has to position herself between us and Christ if we’re to have any hope of salvation. Actually - it’s you who are being rude to God for holding such a belief.

8: I cannot see how Mary’s whereabouts in the life and death of Christ has any implications for what prayers to her might or might not do.

9: Where do I find fault with the “Hail Mary”?
Yes, it is comprised of Scripture mostly. But anyone can take verses from Scripture, and form something that is most definately NOT very devout or Christian. If you insist on getting an example, then ask for it, and I shall provide.

Hint: Using CapsLock in every other word doesn’t make your reasoning any better - it just makes the post harder to read.

 

[LutheranDK]

If you are not Catholic or Orthodox, then the Adoration is as close as you can get to Jesus, unless you become Catholic.Sad to say, that is the TRUTH.

Nope, it is a matter of opinion, an opinion which presupposes the RC belief that consecration of the Sacrament in churches not in communion with the RC or the Orthodox churches results in…nothing.

Your opinion is not fact - it is opinion. And fair enough, but remember that it’s just that…

 

[Memaw]

Nope, it is a matter of opinion, an opinion which presupposes the RC belief that consecration of the Sacrament in churches not in communion with the RC or the Orthodox churches results in…nothing.

Your opinion is not fact - it is opinion. And fair enough, but remember that it’s just that…

Opinion is NOT Truth. What Jesus says is TRUTH.

 

[Memaw]

Whoa, whoa! Hold your horses!

1: Please tell me where I wrote that RCs worship Mary? I am fully aware of the RC belief that prayers to Mary and the saints are prayers for intercession.

2: I am not afraid of Mary.

3: From my perspective, Mary is dead, and has been for 2000 years, just as every other person will eventually die (except those of us that will still be here when The Lord returns, of course).
I do not engage in necromancy, and that is what I believe the prayers to Mary and the saints to be.

4: I do not “steer clear” of Mary herself - which is impossible as she is not here for me to steer clear of; I steer clear of prayers to her, and to the saints, for the aforementioned reason.

5: Let me turn the tables on you.
How would you like it if I came to your house, and asked your spouse to ask you for something, while you were standing right next to us?
My guess is that you’d feel that I was ignoring you, and just wanted something from you.

6: “HE created Her to be the Mother of HIS SON. HE did not just randomly pick her out of the crowd.”

That latter part is not proven fact, it is a statement of faith.
Did God choose Mary? Indeed He did.
Had His plan for the salvation of Man been impossible, if she’d said: “Forget about it!”? The blasphemy! Would God not have chosen some other anonymous peasant girl?

7: “So when you put Mary aside and ignore Her, and what She has done for us, that is not only being very rude to the Mother of Christ but it is putting a wedge between Jesus and yourself.”

Funny, that’s how I think about the devotion to Mary - as putting someone else between yourself and God, because Jesus is the terrible judge who’s just waiting for a chance to judge us for a sin, so we have to ask Mary to calm Him down…
Yes, a slightly charicated image, but isn’t it basically true?
Secondly: What has Mary done for us? Yes, she was chosen by God to be the instrument of bringing Himself into the world. No one’s denying that. But Mary herself has done nothing but what God asked her to - as His servant.

I am not being rude to “ha Theotókos” by insisting that she was a godfearing woman who did as the Lord commanded her - and not someone who has to position herself between us and Christ if we’re to have any hope of salvation. Actually - it’s you who are being rude to God for holding such a belief.

8: I cannot see how Mary’s whereabouts in the life and death of Christ has any implications for what prayers to her might or might not do.

9: Where do I find fault with the “Hail Mary”?
Yes, it is comprised of Scripture mostly. But anyone can take verses from Scripture, and form something that is most definately NOT very devout or Christian. If you insist on getting an example, then ask for it, and I shall provide.

Hint: Using CapsLock in every other word doesn’t make your reasoning any better - it just makes the post harder to read.

I do that to put emphasis on what I am saying, it is NOT hard to read!!!

I’m sorry but you will have to take all this up with Our Lord when you see Him as It is impossible to reason with an attitude like this For you information, there is NO actual proof that Mary ever died. Try that one on for size.

 

[LutheranDK]

I do that to put emphasis on what I am saying, it is NOT hard to read!!!

I’m sorry but you will have to take all this up with Our Lord when you see Him as It is impossible to reason with an attitude like this For you information, there is NO actual proof that Mary ever died. Try that one on for size.

The arrogance…
No, I’m taking this up with you - since it was you who asked me those questions I answered. And if you do not have an answer back, then admit it. But you can’t just sprout the same old story, and expect that I say “Of course! You’re right!”. Present to me your reasoning. You can’t just make a hit-and-run operation, and then not want to respond to people’s objections.

Oh… Is there actual proof that…say…Aristotle died? Or Caesar?
You seem to have a very strange view of the burden of proof. You state something as fact, and when someone say “I don’t believe that’s true”, you demand that THEY disprove you, you do not try to substantiate your theory.

Well, two can play that game:
There are little green men living deep beneath the surface of the Earth, in huge cities. Don’t believe me? Prove that I’m wrong!

Using CapsLock for emphasis is certainly not uncommon - I do that myself. But if you want to “emphasize” every other word like you did in the post, it seems more like yelling and throwing a tantrum - which is something I will not waste my time with…

 

[LutheranDK]

Opinion is NOT Truth. What Jesus says is TRUTH.

Yes, what Jesus says is the truth, as He Himself is TRUTH.
Your subjective opinions (or mine for that matter) are NOT neccessarily truths.

 

[Memaw]

The arrogance…
No, I’m taking this up with you - since it was you who asked me those questions I answered. And if you do not have an answer back, then admit it. But you can’t just sprout the same old story, and expect that I say “Of course! You’re right!”. Present to me your reasoning. You can’t just make a hit-and-run operation, and then not want to respond to people’s objections.

Oh… Is there actual proof that…say…Aristotle died? Or Caesar?
You seem to have a very strange view of the burden of proof. You state something as fact, and when someone say “I don’t believe that’s true”, you demand that THEY disprove you, you do not try to substantiate your theory.

Well, two can play that game:
There are little green men living deep beneath the surface of the Earth, in huge cities. Don’t believe me? Prove that I’m wrong!

Using CapsLock for emphasis is certainly not uncommon - I do that myself. But if you want to “emphasize” every other word like you did in the post, it seems more like yelling and throwing a tantrum - which is something I will not waste my time with…

Grow up!!

 

[LutheranDK]

Grow up!!

I think it has been pretty well established that it’s you who need to grow up…

 

[Memaw]

Yes, what Jesus says is the truth, as He Himself is TRUTH.
Your subjective opinions (or mine for that matter) are NOT neccessarily truths.

Thats the big difference between you and me. I do NOT give you MY opinions. I only say what the Catholic Church teaches and has the Christ given authority to teach. I do not say, "I think this or I think that or I believe this means this or that. I only say what the Church teaches and that is why I said you have to take “Your opinions” to Christ. He is the source of TRUTH and the ONLY TRUTH. So what you “think” doesn’t matter unless its in union with HIS TRUTH. And all those off the wall things you say are just that, off the wall. The TRUTH will set you free. and being nasty about it doesn’t help you.

 

[LutheranDK]

Thats the big difference between you and me. I do NOT give you MY opinions. I only say what the Catholic Church teaches and has the Christ given authority to teach. I do not say, "I think this or I think that or I believe this means this or that. I only say what the Church teaches and that is why I said you have to take “Your opinions” to Christ. He is the source of TRUTH and the ONLY TRUTH. So what you “think” doesn’t matter unless its in union with HIS TRUTH. And all those off the wall things you say are just that, off the wall. The TRUTH will set you free. and being nasty about it doesn’t help you.

For crying out…
Ok. You claim that the RCC has gotten authority from Christ to say “this is true” and “this is false.”

This is an opinion, not a fact.

This opinion can be true, and it can be false. But you go parading around with quick hit-and-run posts (and refuse to amswer any questions that come up in a refutation of it), and then post your opinion (the one mentioned above) as a fact as obvious as gravity.