Any Novus Ordo Masses celebrated Ad Orientem?

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When I was younger, I remember that Bishop Foley was an Auxiliary here in the Richmond Diocese – during the days of Bishop Walter Sullivan. Is his approach heterodox?

Also, can a priest offer Mas ad orientem, or is permission required? I think we should try to get a liturgist to solve this mystery.
 
Ad Orientem does not need permission. The Council said nothing about Ad Orietem needing to be supressed or even anything about the removal of communion rails.

St Agnes of St Paul, MN does all their Holy Masses Ad Orietem, in the main church and in the Crypt Chapel. They have a communion rail, and no EEM’s. The Priests and Deacons are they only Ministers of Holy Eucharist. They offer a Latin Novus Ordo High Mass (Priest,Deacon, Subdeacon, six candles, and at least ten-twelve altar boys) each Sunday at 10 AM, and every Saturday morning they have a Latin Novus Ordo Mass.
 
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Ad Orientem does not need permission. The Council said nothing about Ad Orietem needing to be supressed or even anything about the removal of communion rails.

St Agnes of St Paul, MN does all their Holy Masses Ad Orietem, in the main church and in the Crypt Chapel. They have a communion rail, and no EEM’s. The Priests and Deacons are they only Ministers of Holy Eucharist. They offer a Latin Novus Ordo High Mass (Priest,Deacon, Subdeacon, six candles, and at least ten-twelve altar boys) each Sunday at 10 AM, and every Saturday morning they have a Latin Novus Ordo Mass.
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Ah, if only we could rustle up some Latin subdeacons in this area… sigh
 
Masses celebrated at the parishes under the care of the priests of the Oratory of St. Philip Neri in Toronto, Canada are often done so ad orientem. This isn’t usually the case for public daily Mass on weekdays at their parishes.

But on Sunday, Mass is celebrated entirely in Latin (Novus Ordo) and ad orientem. Also, the many quasi-private Masses celebrated by the priests there are “toward the east,” some in Latin, some in the vernacular. Some of the priests also prefer the Tridentine Rite for their quasi-private liturgies. And one of their parishes has the Tridentine High Mass for the Sunday liturgy.

In the Hearts of Jesus and Mary.
 
frdave20 said:
Also, can a priest offer Mas ad orientem, or is permission required? I think we should try to get a liturgist to solve this mystery.
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Yes, any priest may celebrate Mass ad orientem, at any time (unless the bishop says no for tv masses. At non televised masses, he may always celebrate ad orientem.)
 
CD4 said:
**Does Hancville have a different bishop than Birmingham? I do remember when EWTN was made to change…Are they allowed to celebrate Mass facing the altar if NOT telivised. :confused: **
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I think the priest always faces the altar when celebrating Mass, particularly for the consecration. Now for the real question: is he facing in the same direction of the people when he faces the altar?:D:D
 
Iohannes said:
Here are parishes that celebrate the Novus Ordo Ad Orientem:

atonementonline.com/

walsingham-church.org/

I am sure there are others.
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Both are Anglican Use Catholic parishes and actually they use the Anglican Use liturgy. Although Our Lady of the Atonement does celebrate the Novus Ordor/OF in Latin every Sunday. I am not sure about Our Lady of Walsingham if they also celebrate the OF.

All Anglican use parishes face ad orientem for all Masses.

God Bless

Bernadette
 
TheMc said:
Yes, any priest may celebrate Mass ad orientem, at any time (unless the bishop says no for tv masses. At non televised masses, he may always celebrate ad orientem.)
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My pastor tried the ad orientem posture during a English Christmas Midnight Mass one year but he received tons of complaints about it and concluded “What’s the point?” He changed the following Christmas Midnight Mass to an EF.
 
Here in Tulsa, Bishop Slattery celebrates Mass Ad Orientem. It is beautiful, the only awkward thing is that the cathedral was built with the altar facing the West. I don’t know if it was a mistake or what. The cathedral was built after the land rush in Oklahoma. So I don’t know. But all things aside, I am grateful the bishop celebrates Mass Ad Orientem everytime.
 
ProVobis said:
My pastor tried the ad orientem posture during a English Christmas Midnight Mass one year but he received tons of complaints about it and concluded “What’s the point?” He changed the following Christmas Midnight Mass to an EF.
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Haha!
 
St Mary’s in Downtown Greenville SC does ad orientem Novus Ordo.

I’m not sure if Fr Longenecker has implemented that at O.L. of the Rosary since he moved there or not.

Fr Daniel D’Alliessi (in residence priest) is known to do so at St Mary Mother of God in Chinatown, DC, also.
 
How can you tell if a Latin mass is OF or EF?

I once attended a latin mass but I came in late. I was able to follow some of my stuff in the Roman Misalette

The service was indeed ad orientem, but now I wonder if it was actually EF?
 
TrueLight said:
How can you tell if a Latin mass is OF or EF?

I once attended a latin mass but I came in late. I was able to follow some of my stuff in the Roman Misalette

The service was indeed ad orientem, but now I wonder if it was actually EF?
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Both the EF and the OF can be celeberated ad orientem in latin, but the OF can also be celebrated facing the people in english. The EF can’t.
 
TrueLight said:
How can you tell if a Latin mass is OF or EF?

I once attended a latin mass but I came in late. I was able to follow some of my stuff in the Roman Misalette

The service was indeed ad orientem, but now I wonder if it was actually EF?
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If you are familiar with the EF (Mass of John XXIII, 1962 Missal), you should have no problems in distinguishing the two.

Did they recite the 1st chapter of the Gospel of John at the end? (After the dismissal and you making the sign of the cross at the blessing) (If yes, it was EF)

Was Communion given in the ‘typical’ fashion or was it done at the altar rail (the ‘traditional’ fashion)? (If at the end of lines standing up, it was OF)

You should be able to see both those two differences pretty easily.
 
markomalley said:
If you are familiar with the EF (Mass of John XXIII, 1962 Missal), you should have no problems in distinguishing the two.

Did they recite the 1st chapter of the Gospel of John at the end? (After the dismissal and you making the sign of the cross at the blessing) (If yes, it was EF)
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Hmm, I don’t remember. I go to a couple of masses at different parishes, but I’ll pay attention next time I go to the Latin Mass at this particularly parish.
Was Communion given in the ‘typical’ fashion or was it done at the altar rail (the ‘traditional’ fashion)? (If at the end of lines standing up, it was OF)
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At the altar rail and with most people kneeling.
 
TrueLight said:
How can you tell if a Latin mass is OF or EF?

I once attended a latin mass but I came in late. I was able to follow some of my stuff in the Roman Misalette

The service was indeed ad orientem, but now I wonder if it was actually EF?
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Both the EF and the OF can be celeberated ad orientem in latin, but the OF can also be celebrated facing the people in english. The EF can’t.

Here’s some other things that could help you tell the difference between the two.

Here’s some unique things about the EF:
  • The priest stands at the extreme edge of the altar (first the right, then the left) for about the first half of the Mass, and again at the end of Mass (left)
  • The canon (consecration and prayers surrounding it) are said in a whisper
  • The priest genuflects both before and after the elevations
  • The bells are rung more than 3 times.
  • Many genuflections, by both the priest and servers
Here’s some unique things about the OF:
  • The canon is said loud enough for everyone to hear
  • Lay readers read the readings
  • The bells are rung between 0-3 times
  • Few genuflections, by both the priest and servers
And here are some things that are common or even required in the EF, but uncommon and optional in the OF:
 
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