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Are there any other programs besides FFSP available to seminarians who desire formation in the traditional Latin rite? I know the Institute of Christ the King is one, but that program is based in Italy.

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Are there any other programs besides FFSP available to seminarians who desire formation in the traditional Latin rite?
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Any number of priests have learned the Latin mass from older priests or others willing to teach it. The FSSP seminary may be the only exclusively Latin seminary in this country, but most of the priests saying Latin masses have never set foot on its campus.

The FSSP is actually quite small, even in relation to the total indult mass scene, much less the whole church.
 
Yes, that’s true. I know the diocese from which I am looking to receive sponsorship does allow the Tridentine Mass. I am hesitant to discuss my desire to say the traditional mass because I don’t want to appear pushy before even stepping into the seminary! Don’t get me wrong: I will certain preside at NO masses as is required by the parish. But I hope that in any circumstance, I would be able-at my own sacrifice of time- offer, additionally, the Tridentine Mass.
 
It won’t be as easy as saying, I want to say the TLM and you will receive. Here in Detroit, many people have in the last 20 years fought for one TLM per sunday!
Now saying the NO Mass and the TLM simultaneously is a rare,rare, rare sitaution. It will confuse you because the TLM and NO calendars, breviaries[Liturgy of the Hours],feast days, and et cetera et ad multum.
An example of this is if you have to celebrate Ember Days or not? Or Rogation days? Or Septuagesima?
 
hey,
wow this is wonderful news.
ive decided to be a priest aswell, i applied at both the institue of christ the king, and fssp.
but also i have found many awesome religious orders,
inluding the cannons regulars and premontres. also i think there are some traditional wings of benedictines and franciscans.
PM me and i could scrape up a list for ya.
 
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katolik:
It won’t be as easy as saying, I want to say the TLM and you will receive. Here in Detroit, many people have in the last 20 years fought for one TLM per sunday!
Now saying the NO Mass and the TLM simultaneously is a rare,rare, rare sitaution. It will confuse you because the TLM and NO calendars, breviaries[Liturgy of the Hours],feast days, and et cetera et ad multum.
An example of this is if you have to celebrate Ember Days or not? Or Rogation days? Or Septuagesima?
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OK! Well, then I’ll just be responsible for the TLMs! No, I realize, as you’ve mentioned, that it’s more than “ask and you shall receive.” I am happy that Dioceses that I would possibly serve in my area (e.g. Chicago, Gary, Indianapolis) all at least allow the TLM, unlike Detroit. So that’s very reassuring.

It seems, though, that everywhere that the TLM is brought in, there is always exceptional turnouts and increased demand. We pray for the Diocese of Detroit!
 
It won’t be as easy as saying, I want to say the TLM and you will receive. Here in Detroit, many people have in the last 20 years fought for one TLM per sunday!
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**What really works against the indult and the TLM **is the fact that Catholics are used to worshipping in their own parishes in their own neighborhoods with their friends, families and neighbors. I think there is a natural instinct that goes against driving 30, 60 minutes or more to hear mass in an unfamiliar parish, often in the hood or other crazy location.

I would hope this paradigm would change where some dioceses would have the location changed weekly to different parishes. So there in Detroit, March 20th might be at St. Josephats, but March 27th would be at St. Joseph’s, April 3rd at St. Gemma’s, and so on throughout the diocese.

To any young person who thinks they want to say Latin mass, become fluent in Latin and practice your chanting. You can do both of those things without any special TLM training and you’ll be ready when the opportunity comes down.
 
Kielbasi said:
**What really works against the indult and the TLM **is the fact that Catholics are used to worshipping in their own parishes in their own neighborhoods with their friends, families and neighbors. I think there is a natural instinct that goes against driving 30, 60 minutes or more to hear mass in an unfamiliar parish, often in the hood or other crazy location.

I would hope this paradigm would change where some dioceses would have the location changed weekly to different parishes. So there in Detroit, March 20th might be at St. Josephats, but March 27th would be at St. Joseph’s, April 3rd at St. Gemma’s, and so on throughout the diocese.

To any young person who thinks they want to say Latin mass, become fluent in Latin and practice your chanting. You can do both of those things without any special TLM training and you’ll be ready when the opportunity comes down.
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Kielbasa:
Catholics that attend TLM’s are traditionalists. They will have nothing but the TLM![same with me] We will climb mountains, jump over rivers to attend the TLM!
You seem to know Detroit, have you lived in Hamtramck/Poletown? 😉 You can tell me
The reason against having a church having the TLM once a month and it rotating around the diocese is that people need a base parish not let’s go here one sunday, then here the next sunday and so and so on. Cardinal Mahony does this in LA and people have to drive 100 miles between Indult Masses[said at a different church each week]! Now how will a TLM community grow strong?
The TLM is not just an egg in the Easter barszcz, we are a batch of very good, delicious, made by mama Easter barszcz[borscht for you nonPoles].

I will take my organist’s suggestion to heart. “Why have the TLM only at one church? You need to think big,why not every parish?”.

Anyways from my 6 month experience of TLM and different priests saying it, not all NO priests are ready to say the TLM. We have had one priest who said the TLM with trembling and fear while another was so intimidated and confused by the rubrics he felt like “a child try to understand Einstein”.
 
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ddimitro:
OK! Well, then I’ll just be responsible for the TLMs! No, I realize, as you’ve mentioned, that it’s more than “ask and you shall receive.” I am happy that Dioceses that I would possibly serve in my area (e.g. Chicago, Gary, Indianapolis) all at least allow the TLM, unlike Detroit. So that’s very reassuring.

It seems, though, that everywhere that the TLM is brought in, there is always exceptional turnouts and increased demand. We pray for the Diocese of Detroit!
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The Archbishop Cardinal of Detroit does allow the TLM here but only on Sundays and not on holydays and Holy Week.
 
You seem to know Detroit, have you lived in Hamtramck/Poletown? 😉 You can tell me
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No, although I did have an old girlfriend in Southfield and an aunt, now deceased in Grosse Pointe.

I haven’t been there in many many years, I just remembered St. Josephat’s from your previous post, figured every diocese has at least one St. Joseph Church and knew Detroit had the only St. Gemma Church in the country from my interest in that Passionist saint.

I didn’t think there was much left in Poletown, I thought a new auto plant had most of the houses razed there under former Mayor Young.
 
Poletown was much bigger than the area around the factory but it yes it has died with the freeways and whiteflight. Some onld Polish churches are now in the hand of Protestants, like St.Stanislaus, which preVatican II was one of the biggest Polish parishes in America. 😦
 
Depends on what you think about the SSPX.

The SSPX have seminaries in which they train seminarians - a 6 year course.

I know the priests that have gone through these seminaries and they are very holy, very humble and very dedicated to Christ and the restoration of the church.

Something to think about.
 
The Society of St. John Cantius (SSJC) trains seminarians in both the traditional mass and the current rite. They are based at, you guessed it, St. John Cantius parish on the near west side of Chicago, which also happens to be a gorgeous church. Their motto is “Restoration of the Sacred”.

cantius.org/
 
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