any vegetarians out here?

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athansor said:
Well, (from Hindu Business online) there’s this:

We were headed to the villages of Dah and Beema (pronounced Beama) in Leh district and Garkun and Darchik in Kargil district, and the intention was to spend a week studying the secret lives of a tribe of pure Aryans.
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There are about 1,000 descendants of the Aryan tribes and they live scattered around Gilgit, Hunza, Kargil and Leh. Being nature worshippers, they celebrate the Bononah (nature) festival and are strict vegans, which means they are not only strictly vegetarian but also don’t consume milk or milk products
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The few thousand Brok-pa Aryans have over 5,000 years lived in these hostile terrain at 15,000 ft altitude, subsisting on a vegan diet. Music and dance are a way of life for them. Both men and women wear colourful costume, decorating their hair with flowers, and are full of joi de vivre. They live in harmony with nature, and are cheerful and stress-free despite living in small rock shelters. They trek long distances.
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The weather in September is pleasantly cold, though temperatures in January can plummet to -20 degrees Celsius. There are an unusually large number of Aryans above 70 years. Many are active even at 90.
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Not knowing anyone who is a vegan who has lived past a certain age certainly doesn’t prove that a vegan diet is bad for you. Also, all research is not equal. While authors may cite a lot of research articles, it is worth looking at how many are peer reviewed. There is a a good article that just does the bean counting on the reserach for each side, and the articles promoting a vegetarian or vegan diet do better as far as quality of journals and peer review go.

But, even if you are convinced that eating meat is the healthier option, does that really make it acceptable to ridicule vegetarians, or make them feel unwelcome? Is it OK to keep throwing out the same tired vegetarian jokes? (God made animals out of meat…hahaha…vegetarian means poor hunter…etc.)

When a new person comes to a Church function, who is considering RCIA, getting involved with the parish, or just wants to learn more about the Catholic faith, and they mention that they are a veg*n, would you welcome them and be accomidating to their dietary needs? Or, would you tell them that they are wrong, ridicule them, and suggest that they don’t belong?

There are a lot of people who visit these forums to learn more about the Catholic faith. Is this the impression that you want them to take away?
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Not the complete story on the Hindu vegan diet. See below.

“It is true that Hindu vegans living in certain parts of India do not suffer from vitamin B12 deficiency. This has led some to conclude that plant foods do provide this vitamin. This conclusion, however, is erroneous as many small insects, their feces, eggs, larvae and/or residue, are left on the plant foods these people consume, due to non-use of pesticides and inefficient cleaning methods. This is how these people obtain their vitamin B12. This contention is borne out by the fact that when vegan Indian Hindus later migrated to England, they came down with megaloblastic anaemia within a few years. In England, the food supply is cleaner, and insect residues are completely removed from plant foods.”

westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtvegetarianism.html

Jim
 
“The poor, benighted Hindoo
He does the best he kindoo
From first to last
He sticks to caste
And for pants he makes his skindoo”

– Anonymous:D
 
If God wanted us to be vegans, he wouldn’t have told the Jews to sacrifice and consume animals…
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Humans were also sacrificed as part of the Old Covenant. I eat meat occasionally too, but I certainly wouldn’t use what you stated for justification.
 
JimR-OCDS said:
Not the complete story on the Hindu vegan diet. See below.

“It is true that Hindu vegans living in certain parts of India do not suffer from vitamin B12 deficiency. This has led some to conclude that plant foods do provide this vitamin. This conclusion, however, is erroneous as many small insects, their feces, eggs, larvae and/or residue, are left on the plant foods these people consume, due to non-use of pesticides and inefficient cleaning methods. This is how these people obtain their vitamin B12. This contention is borne out by the fact that when vegan Indian Hindus later migrated to England, they came down with megaloblastic anaemia within a few years. In England, the food supply is cleaner, and insect residues are completely removed from plant foods.”

westonaprice.org/mythstruths/mtvegetarianism.html

Jim
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That’s true, and I think it’s important that all vegans supplement with B-12 (and vit D if they don’t get the sun exposure)
 
distracted said:
I understand it. It is very unhealthy to be a vegan vegetarian. I have never known or heard of one that lived beyond the age of 70. In fact, most of them die in their 50s… of cancer…(etc).

OUr bodies are made up mostly of water, protein and fat, so it stands to reason that those things would be the least “stressful” to the body. I don’t eat a lot of actual meat (once a week?) but i eat a lot of free-range chicken eggs… and cheese. I need to eat more fish, but anyway…
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Can you provide some documentation for your claims?? I’d like to see some studies that show vegans die in their 50s.

I’m not sure why this topic comes up every so often–why does anyone obsess over what another person eats? From what I can tell, the veg*ns on CAF are not pushy PETA types, why hassle them? Why not start threads and rag on people who eat fast food all the time or who refuse to eat their vegetables? This isn’t some moral issue, live and let live!
 
BobP123 said:
Humans were also sacrificed as part of the Old Covenant. I eat meat occasionally too, but I certainly wouldn’t use what you stated for justification.
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As far as I know, human sacrifice was forbidden in ancient Hebrew culture.

Please provide the reference where Hebrews sacrificed human beings.

Jim
 
JimR-OCDS said:
As far as I know, human sacrifice was forbidden in ancient Hebrew culture.

Please provide the reference where Hebrews sacrificed human beings.

Jim
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Probably the reference is to Abraham and Isaac. But Abraham was the first Jew and did not carry out the sacrifice of Isaac.

It is not correct to say the Jews or Hebrews had human sacrifice.
 
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