Any young earth creationists out there?

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Hugh_Farey said:
That won’t do at all. There’s no way you can use science to excuse God’s indiscriminate extermination of the things he found so good just a short time before.

There is a quasi-miraculous theology that would allow for the introduction of death into a previously death free world. Things die. No problem. Others are born. But the animals I mentioned were not single creatures but entire orders of families. Not simply death, but the death of every single animal in an entire order, leaving not a single example behind? What kind of theology is that? A kind of justification of divine genocide?
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Your position then is that God created natural evil.
 
Genesis was never meant to be a scientific book.

Has anyone been able to replicate making a woman out of a man’s rib?
 
Sarcelle said:
Genesis was never meant to be a scientific book.

Has anyone been able to replicate making a woman out of a man’s rib?
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It is meant to be a book of truth. However, the very first verse is:

in the beginning (time)
God created the heavens (space)
and the earth (matter)

Only recently has science confirmed this.
 
Hugh_Farey said:
The theology of Genesis 2 is not about “helpers” for “men” either. Dear me.
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For the theistic evolutionist it cannot be. That is the problem in a nutshell. Change the meaning of Scripture to fit. Sounds like what Einstein did as a result of certain experiments, too. Make it up.
 
buffalo said:
Your position then is that God created natural evil.
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You’d need to be a bit more specific as to what a natural evil is. It’s usually assumed to be a meteorological or geological event causing destruction and death. If so, then yes, these these are direct consequences of the laws of nature established before time began by God, and have nothing to do with the behaviour of any people.
buffalo said:
Really? Loss of reproductive capability is no longer in the definition?
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The distinct difference between species is that they do not mutually reproduce.
 
Hey, guess what!!!

You can still be Catholic and (1) hold to the findings of science regarding evolution OR (2) be a young-earth creationist.

Battle over the science all you want. But stop acting as if evolution is inherently anti-God or anti-Genesis or anti-Catholicism. Because it’s not. Ask Francis, Benedict, JPII, or Pius XII. They all accepted the possibility of evolution, and recent popes accept that it is “more than a hypothesis.”

A PAPAL ENCYCLICAL CLEARLY ALLOWED THE POSSIBILITY OF THE EVOLUTION OF THE HUMAN BODY. This is the CATHOLIC position: that it is COMPATIBLE WITH CATHOLIC FAITH that the human body EVOLVED from previous life forms.

And to the people who keep insisting what Catholicism teaches about creation in Genesis, please recognize that the Catechism states multiple times that Genesis uses “figurative language” and speaks “symbolically.” Do you agree with the Catechism, or do you not?

Any further bickering from the creationist side is clearly equivalent to having issues with the magisterium, and not just Catholics who happen to accept evolution.
 
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Hugh_Farey said:
Your DNA is almost identical to your wife. Only a tiny fraction distinguishes you from her, and from every other human.
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And yet still different, less different than that of mine compared to a monkey’s. My point was different doesn’t equal the same.
 
Nelka said:
And yet still different, less different than that of mine compared to a monkey’s. My point was different doesn’t equal the same.
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I’m afraid you’re not making any sense. Every individual has different DNA (except identical twins and clones), and the more different any two individual organisms, the more different their DNA. Having said that, all living cells have quite similar biochemistry, so it’s not surprising that we all share a lot of DNA. Over 50% of our DNA is the same as every other eukaryote.
 
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My point was in response to someone saying that because man and ape share 99% dna it must mean we evolved from them, I was trying to show otherwise.
 
Hugh_Farey said:
You’d need to be a bit more specific as to what a natural evil is. It’s usually assumed to be a meteorological or geological event causing destruction and death. If so, then yes, these these are direct consequences of the laws of nature established before time began by God, and have nothing to do with the behaviour of any people.
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Yet, the cause pain and suffering for many.

So in your view God created natural evil that results in pain, suffering and death.
 
catholic1seeks said:
And to the people who keep insisting what Catholicism teaches about creation in Genesis, please recognize that the Catechism states multiple times that Genesis uses “figurative language” and speaks “symbolically.” Do you agree with the Catechism, or do you not?
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So Eve did not come from Adam?
 
Hugh_Farey said:
I’m afraid you’re not making any sense. Every individual has different DNA (except identical twins and clones), and the more different any two individual organisms, the more different their DNA. Having said that, all living cells have quite similar biochemistry, so it’s not surprising that we all share a lot of DNA. Over 50% of our DNA is the same as every other eukaryote.
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Common design just keeps showing up.
 
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