anyone ever visit a PNCC parish before?

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Anyone ever visit a Polish National Catholic parish before? If so please share, I’m curious what your experience was like and how they worshiped… there’s one by me I have thought about visiting because it seems like it would be intersting but I’d rather go to my parish than waste a Sunday morning going someplace else
 
Sybok said:
Anyone ever visit a Polish National Catholic parish before? If so please share, I’m curious what your experience was like and how they worshiped.
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Yes I have. They all wore hats made of some kind of spaghetti, and they waved balloons in the air.
 
Sybok said:
Anyone ever visit a Polish National Catholic parish before? If so please share, I’m curious what your experience was like and how they worshiped… there’s one by me I have thought about visiting because it seems like it would be intersting but I’d rather go to my parish than waste a Sunday morning going someplace else
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Good Afternoon,

Yes, I have attended mass at a Polish National Catholic Church. There are a few differences in the Mass. The one major difference is that the Body of Christ is dipped into the chalice that contains the Blood of Christ. It is given on the tongue and not in the hand. Some PNCC’s still have a Polish Language Mass but many of the churches have the Mass said in English. The priest in the PNCC might have his wife and children sitting in the pews. Married priests are allowed in the PNCC.

The RCC allows you to receive Holy Communion in a PNCC.

The people who attend the PNCC are very holy and love Jesus Christ just like the people to attend the RCC.

As you do not have to be Roman in attend the RCC, you do not have to Polish to attend the PNCC.

It is not a waste of time.

Sincerely,

Jeff

PS My Dad was a member of the Polish National Catholic Church.
 
I agree. 🙂 (I was kidding, of course, about the hats made of spaghetti and waving balloons in the air.)
 
Forgive me if this is a little random, but this morning I was reflecting on the PNCC and the Melkite Catholic Church. There are a lot of obvious differences between them (for example, Melkites are in full communion with about half of all Christians whereas the PNCC are in full communion with less than 0.001% of all Christians, the Melkite liturgy is firmly Eastern whereas the PNCC is strongly Western (although both are very beautiful)) … and yet I always somehow feel that we are very much the same at heart, so to speak.

Is anyone else here acquainted with both churches?
 
Peter_J said:
the Melkite liturgy is firmly Eastern whereas the PNCC is strongly Western
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P.S. That’s not to say that there are no similarities in the liturgies. For example, both say the creed in its original form (without the “filioque”) and both have Communion-by-Intinction.
 
I see Sybok’s question,
Sybok said:
Anyone ever visit a Polish National Catholic parish before?
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has only gotten 2 yeses so far. Which is not really surprising, since the PNCC is smaller than, say, the Anglican Church in North America (ACNA) – and much smaller than the Roman Communion.

Just for the heck of it: How many posters here at least know someone in the PNCC? And are they friend or family?
 
Peter_J said:
I see Sybok’s question,

has only gotten 2 yeses so far. Which is not really surprising, since the PNCC is smaller than, say, the Anglican Church in North America (ACNA) – and much smaller than the Roman Communion.

Just for the heck of it: How many posters here at least know someone in the PNCC? And are they friend or family?
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Good Afternoon,

My Dad was a member of the Polish National Catholic Church in Cleveland, Ohio. My Dad’s parents (my grandparents) and Uncle were also members of the PNCC.
 
Peter_J said:
I see Sybok’s question,

has only gotten 2 yeses so far. Which is not really surprising, since the PNCC is smaller than, say, the Anglican Church in North America (ACNA) – and much smaller than the Roman Communion.

Just for the heck of it: How many posters here at least know someone in the PNCC? And are they friend or family?
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Friend, there is actually a parish here in my town. They seem to be very active with parish events. They help sponsor the community Polish Day.

I happen to belong to the Roman Catholic parish that is associated with the Polish community in my town. So I have friends in the PNCC, but I’ve never been to one of their services/masses.
 
Piwowar said:
The RCC allows you to receive Holy Communion in a PNCC.
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I’m not so sure this is so. For those just tuning in the PNCC has absolutely nothing to do with the Nation of Poland, nor are they in communion with the actual catholic church (unless I missed some serious news!). They are an American invention formed when Polish immigrant communities here got tired of being pushed around by Irish-dominated local bishops and committed schism.

Back to the above quote. The schism included at least one valid bishop, so the PNCC probably retains apostolic succession (I’m not qualified to decide!). In that sense, I think that catholics may partake of communion or confession from PNCC priests in case of emergency or danger of death, but are not supposed to ordinarily commune together. Communion, after all is supposed to reflect COMMUNION. It’s nearly absurd to pretend to be communing together when we are separated by schism.
 
manualman said:
I’m not so sure this is so. For those just tuning in the PNCC has absolutely nothing to do with the Nation of Poland, nor are they in communion with the actual catholic church (unless I missed some serious news!). They are an American invention formed when Polish immigrant communities here got tired of being pushed around by Irish-dominated local bishops and committed schism.

Back to the above quote. The schism included at least one valid bishop, so the PNCC probably retains apostolic succession (I’m not qualified to decide!). In that sense, I think that catholics may partake of communion or confession from PNCC priests in case of emergency or danger of death, but are not supposed to ordinarily commune together. Communion, after all is supposed to reflect COMMUNION. It’s nearly absurd to pretend to be communing together when we are separated by schism.
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Good Afternoon,

In the inside cover of my Roman Catholic Missal it states that there is no objection for a person who attends the PNCC receiving Holy Communion in the Roman Catholic Church.
Upon asking my priest as to me receiving Holy Communion in a Polish National Catholic Church, he stated that there is no objection.
 
usccb.org/prayer-and-worship/the-mass/order-of-mass/liturgy-of-the-eucharist/guidelines-for-the-reception-of-communion.cfm

The USCCB guidelines clarify the situation for PNCC people wanting to receive in catholic parishes. They are silent about whether it is appropriate for catholics to receive in EO or PNCC churches.

I’m not in position to argue with your priest, but the logic isn’t consistent to my mind. We offer the option of return to communion to the folks in schism if they desire it. That isn’t the same as suggesting that catholics should condone the schism by participating in it. After all one of the things being expressed in communion is our oneness together with Christ as one people. IMO it’s not good to express absolute communion with people who say the papacy (among other things) isn’t real or binding. That doesn’t happen when they decide to come to us.

It’s not addressed here, but I could swear I’ve been told that catholics shouldn’t do this unless a catholic parish isn’t available.
 
Peter_J said:
As I understand it, the RC position is that the PNCC does have apostolic succession, not “probably”.
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I don’t dispute it, but I’m not remotely qualified or knowledgable enough to vouch for it personally, either. That’s all I meant.

I think their status is fairly similar to the Society of St. Pius X. (SSPX). (Ducks and hides)
 
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