Anyone here who is a Protestant that agrees with Catholic teachings but do not convert?

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I think Protestants fear Catholicism being subject by conspiracy theories and all. I wonder who are hugely different.
 
souldiver said:
I think Protestants fear Catholicism being subject by conspiracy theories and all. I wonder who are hugely different.
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I once thought I did. Even visualised myself converting when I met my then Catholic girlfriend.

Then I did research and was driven further and further away.

Can’t see it happening anytime soon
 
I agree with MOST of the teachings and what’s stopping me is the teachings that are Dogma.

I don’t even agree with a few of the teachings of my church, but the beautiful thing is that I am not under any Dogmatic Obligation to see things the same way.

I believe that Mary’s assumption is definately possible, I can’t say either way, so I don’t discount it. But the Catholic church says its fact. (I have issues with people saying things are a fact without evidence). And I am really talking about the same kind of evidence we have that Christ did die and he was resurrected. Witnesses, early writings etc.

I just believe that Dogmatic beliefs should be a no-brainer, for example very explicit in scripture AND tradition. And I also believe that anything that is on the level of Dogma should be necessary for salvation. (and I don’t believe I’m gonna go to hell for being unsure if Mary really was assumed into heaven).
 
MichaelP3 said:
I once thought I did. Even visualised myself converting when I met my then Catholic girlfriend.

Then I did research and was driven further and further away.

Can’t see it happening anytime soon
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Hello,
May I ask what drove you further drove you away?
 
Most every Catholic I know, and I grew up Catholic, does not agree with ALL catholic teachings, thus leaving the cafeteria Catholic phenomena, which really seems to drive people crazy.:eek:
 
MichaelP3 said:
I once thought I did. Even visualised myself converting when I met my then Catholic girlfriend.

Then I did research and was driven further and further away.

Can’t see it happening anytime soon
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Research from Catholics or Protestants?
 
Michael68 said:
Research from Catholics or Protestants?
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Both. Mostly Catholic I would say. Reading the entire Catechism for example. You should understand I went into that really neutral. I was under no obligation from anything be that cultural or personal to stay Protestant. Honestly I didn’t even know what Catholicism was except for another Christian denomination that Worships Jesus just like I always did.
 
PraiseChrist said:
Hello,
May I ask what drove you further drove you away?
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Obviously answering that question in full would mean a very lengthy response.

To answer in short without leading this thread to a discussion on whatever I say:

Numerous times I would sit back and think, but this (whatever I was researching at the time) doesn’t make sense. Maybe numerous historically discrepancies contributed to that.

Lastly maybe the absolute certainty with which the institution claims infallibility and after researching the historical context, I cannot buy it . Without infallibility, Catholics could claim human error without needing to explain it. But instead we have tons of explanations defending every single bad Catholic decision in history. Basically I don’t think one should need a piece of reading larger than the Bible to defend Catholicism n this respect.
 
Hockeygurl said:
I agree with MOST of the teachings and what’s stopping me is the teachings that are Dogma.

I don’t even agree with a few of the teachings of my church, but the beautiful thing is that I am not under any Dogmatic Obligation to see things the same way.

I believe that Mary’s assumption is definately possible, I can’t say either way, so I don’t discount it. But the Catholic church says its fact. (I have issues with people saying things are a fact without evidence). And I am really talking about the same kind of evidence we have that Christ did die and he was resurrected. Witnesses, early writings etc.

I just believe that Dogmatic beliefs should be a no-brainer, for example very explicit in scripture AND tradition. And I also believe that anything that is on the level of Dogma should be necessary for salvation. (and I don’t believe I’m gonna go to hell for being unsure if Mary really was assumed into heaven).
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I wouldnt say they are void of any evidence. You know we have relics and know the gravesites of virtually all the key NT figures except for the blessed Mother. I know that kind of creeps some people out but its worth mentioning.

As a protestant the assumption belief didn’t bother me at all, it was her sinlessnes that was unbelievable and kept me away from the Church
 
Strydersroom said:
Most every Catholic I know, and I grew up Catholic, does not agree with ALL catholic teachings, thus leaving the cafeteria Catholic phenomena, which really seems to drive people crazy.:eek:
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Yeah it would seem an odd concept of a Protestant that agrees with all of Catholic teaching when as you say, most Catholics don’t even agree with all of Catholic teaching. The next Catholic I meet in person who does will be the first.
 
Padres1969 said:
Yeah it would seem an odd concept of a Protestant that agrees with all of Catholic teaching when as you say, most Catholics don’t even agree with all of Catholic teaching. The next Catholic I meet in person who does will be the first.
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What do you mean by “Catholic Teaching?” Dogma and the like or just practice/tradition with a lowercase t (as in saying Mass Ad Orientem)?
 
Entwhistler said:
What do you mean by “Catholic Teaching?” Dogma and the like or just practice/tradition with a lowercase t (as in saying Mass Ad Orientem)?
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All of the above. And not just dogma and practice/tradition. But teaching on social and/or moral issues as well. There’s always something that’s not agreed with in one of those categories. I’ve yet to meet any Catholic who agrees with it all.
 
Padres1969 said:
All of the above. And not just dogma and practice/tradition. But teaching on social and/or moral issues as well. There’s always something that’s not agreed with in one of those categories. I’ve yet to meet any Catholic who agrees with it all.
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Have you met any priests or bishops who don’t agree with it all? What about Catholics here on CAF (I know, it’s not in person)? You might be surprised. Many people who have known I was Catholic, were surprised when I said I agreed with it all.

I might not understand it all, but I do believe the Church.
 
qui_est_ce said:
Have you met any priests or bishops who don’t agree with it all? What about Catholics here on CAF (I know, it’s not in person)? You might be surprised. Many people who have known I was Catholic, were surprised when I said I agreed with it all.

I might not understand it all, but I do believe the Church.
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Many priests I’ve met didn’t believe all of Catholic dogma strictly. Then again most of the priests I’ve known over the years are staunch academics as well. They try to reconcile where academia and the Church differ as best they can. Occasionally there are conflicts. Thought to be fair the vast majority of the differences were not very large nor were they do to do with the basic core of Catholic teaching or their vocation (with one exception).
 
Padres1969 said:
Many priests I’ve met didn’t believe all of Catholic dogma strictly. Then again most of the priests I’ve known over the years are staunch academics as well. They try to reconcile where academia and the Church differ as best they can. Occasionally there are conflicts. Thought to be fair the vast majority of the differences were not very large nor were they do to do with the basic core of Catholic teaching or their vocation (with one exception).
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Thanks. 🙂

How do you differentiate between dogma and basic core?
 
Hockeygurl said:
I agree with MOST of the teachings and what’s stopping me is the teachings that are Dogma.

I don’t even agree with a few of the teachings of my church, but the beautiful thing is that I am not under any Dogmatic Obligation to see things the same way.

I believe that Mary’s assumption is definately possible, I can’t say either way, so I don’t discount it. But the Catholic church says its fact. (I have issues with people saying things are a fact without evidence). And I am really talking about the same kind of evidence we have that Christ did die and he was resurrected. Witnesses, early writings etc.

I just believe that Dogmatic beliefs should be a no-brainer, for example very explicit in scripture AND tradition. And I also believe that anything that is on the level of Dogma should be necessary for salvation. (and I don’t believe I’m gonna go to hell for being unsure if Mary really was assumed into heaven).
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The Coptics have a beautiful belief in the assumption of Mary. It is an ancient belief, found not only in Catholicism.

suscopts.org/messages/lectures/marilecture3.pdf
 
I agree with quite a lot of it, but still choose not to convert.

I really get stuck on one thing: The preferred exclusion of other Christians than inclusion. The experiences that I’ve had going to church isn’t something I’d like to be a part of when it comes to other Christians who come to the Catholic Church (in my case non-Catholic spouses) isn’t something I really want to be a part of.
 
Padres1969 said:
Many priests I’ve met didn’t believe all of Catholic dogma strictly. Then again most of the priests I’ve known over the years are staunch academics as well. They try to reconcile where academia and the Church differ as best they can. Occasionally there are conflicts. Thought to be fair the vast majority of the differences were not very large nor were they do to do with the basic core of Catholic teaching or their vocation (with one exception).
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Are you sure they don’t just interpret Catholic teachings differently than you do?
 
TC3033 said:
I agree with quite a lot of it, but still choose not to convert.

I really get stuck on one thing: The preferred exclusion of other Christians than inclusion. The experiences that I’ve had going to church isn’t something I’d like to be a part of when it comes to other Christians who come to the Catholic Church (in my case non-Catholic spouses) isn’t something I really want to be a part of.
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Non-Catholics are welcome at Mass. Even atheists are welcome. I’m not sure what you mean.
 
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