Anyone interested in learning Latin?

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I am currently trying to establish a structured manner to study Latin. Recently I have purchased the classic textbook Wheelock’s Latin.

I was wondering if anyone here would be interested in a communal effort to learn Latin online. I am considering setting up an internet forum for this purpose. This is not an online course, but a group where can track each other’s progress, work through the exercises and vocabulary in each chapter of Wheelock’s Latin, ask questions and such.

Would anyone be interested in something like this?
 
I am currently trying to establish a structured manner to study Latin. Recently I have purchased the classic textbook Wheelock’s Latin.

I was wondering if anyone here would be interested in a communal effort to learn Latin online. I am considering setting up an internet forum for this purpose. This is not an online course, but a group where can track each other’s progress, work through the exercises and vocabulary in each chapter of Wheelock’s Latin, ask questions and such.

Would anyone be interested in something like this?
I might possibly be interested. However, one question I would have is if Wheelock is teaching classical or ecclesiastical Latin. If we’re learning Latin for the liturgy then I think it would be best to go straight for ecclesiastical Latin as classical Latin is harder to learn, and we’d probably have to learn ecclesiastical Latin even if we already knew classical Latin.
 
YES! I would greatly love to expand my prayer vocabulary to include prayers in Latin. I love the plain-chant and Latin that is spoken in Masses like on EWTN (we have no Latin Masses anywhere near where I live). I would LOVE to pray, for instance, the prayers of the Rosary in Latin.

So yes, I’m totally game! 🙂
 
I might possibly be interested. However, one question I would have is if Wheelock is teaching classical or ecclesiastical Latin. If we’re learning Latin for the liturgy then I think it would be best to go straight for ecclesiastical Latin as classical Latin is harder to learn, and we’d probably have to learn ecclesiastical Latin even if we already knew classical Latin.
Classical Latin.

Wheelock’s Latin uses a variety of texts, though mostly from the classical period- Virgil, Ovid, Horace, Cicero, ect.

Although in terms of grammar it is quite compatible with Ecclesiastical Latin. You may use the Ecclesiastical pronounciation if you wish, and I plan to add a feature to the forum with links to letters from the Church Fathers, Latin documents and the Vulgate.
 
Classical Latin.

Wheelock’s Latin uses a variety of texts, though mostly from the classical period- Virgil, Ovid, Horace, Cicero, ect.

Although in terms of grammar it is quite compatible with Ecclesiastical Latin. You may use the Ecclesiastical pronounciation if you wish, and I plan to add a feature to the forum with links to letters from the Church Fathers, Latin documents and the Vulgate.
Hi Caesar, sounds like you have a good plan. The reason I mention ecclesiastical Latin isn’t so much for the pronunciation, but for the greater ease of learning it. I say this primarly based on an essay by Dorothy Sayers. Here are a couple of excerpts:

"And it is my belief that the classical texts of the Augustan Age are simply far too difficult.
They were difficult even in their own day, in the sense that they were elaborate, literary, and highly artificial. The language of Cicero was not spoken in the streets, nor even, I fancy, in the drawing-rooms, of ancient Rome. …The ordinary educated Roman could appreciate Virgil and Horace or Cicero because he came to them through his own daily speech, as we come through our own modern speech to the elaborations of Joyce and Eliot. …But teachers do not, as a rule, ask foreign children to plunge immediately into the study of English by way of Donne and Euphues without any help at all from the current English, whose syntax and vocabulary are so much nearer to their own. Doubtless, when the time comes, they are put on to Shakespeare; but they are not, from the start, confined exclusively to the highly compressed and elliptical language of the later Shakespeare, on the grounds that this represents the Golden Age of English from which every later development is a debasement and a degeneration of the language. Yet this is the way in which, for the last four hundred years or so, we have started English boys on the learning of Latin. It can, of course, be done. It was done-in a more leisured age, and for one sex only of a privileged professional class, and in schools which concentrated on the teaching of classical languages and on uncommonly little else. But I doubt if it is the right way of going about it today. And it is not the way in which it was done for the first fifteen centuries of our era. …

And-to go back to my former point-the Medieval Latin is much easier than the classical. Not all of it; some of it is very crabbed, and there were always, in every age, men who tried to conform their living Latin to the Latin of the Augustans. But the true mediaeval Latin is akin to us, with its simplified construction and modern analytical syntax. The proof of that is that I, who cannot read a page of Virgil or Cicero or Horace without the pains of the damned, can read Aquinas without more difficulty than is involved in understanding what he is talking about. When I read Benvenuto da Imola on Dante, I can pass from Italian text to Latin commentary and scarcely notice the change-over. In short, my training in the Latin grammar, while it left me still unfitted to cope with the Augustans, did fit me to cope with the Medievals, whom I could have read easily and fluently, had anybody directed my attention to them in time.

And lest you should think I know too little to know what I am talking about, I will quote from the preface of a book which I met with only the other day after I had decided what I was going to say to you. I wish I had known of its existence earlier: it would have solved half my problems for me. That is H. P. V. Nunn’s Introduction to the Study of Ecclesiastical Latin. He says:*Much of Classical Latin is highly artificial, not to say unnatural, in its modes of expression. The authors whose works are most generally read wrote for a fastidious and highly cultivated society of littérateurs . . . and especially under the early Empire, they wrote with a view to reading their works to admiring circles of friends, whose applause they hoped to arouse by some novel or far-fetched term of expression.*And, having said that those who intend to use his book “should possess at least a knowledge of the conjugations of Latin verbs and the declensions of Latin nouns such as may be got from any primer”-and that was what I had, before I was in my teens-he goes on:*The author feels confident from experience that those who begin with the Latin Bible and the easier Ecclesiastical authors, will be able to go on to the study of the classics, if they desire to do so, with far more intelligence and profit than if they had tried to approach them without some previous preparation.**memoriapress.com/articles/sayers/sayers4.html*Nevertheless, regardless of whichever route you take, best wishes. It’s probably best to go with whatever route you have the most enthusiasm for.
 
Hi Caesar, sounds like you have a good plan. The reason I mention ecclesiastical Latin isn’t so much for the pronunciation, but for the greater ease of learning it. I say this primarly based on an essay by Dorothy Sayers. Here are a couple of excerpts:
I understand completely. But no decent Latin textbook would expect a beginner to translate the speeches of Cicero or the odes of Horace right off the bat. Thankfully Wheelock’s Latin gives simple pieces and does not expect one to understand the finer points of the piece.

Also, the writings of the Church Fathers were not so simple either.
 
I understand completely. But no decent Latin textbook would expect a beginner to translate the speeches of Cicero or the odes of Horace right off the bat. Thankfully Wheelock’s Latin gives simple pieces and does not expect one to understand the finer points of the piece.

Also, the writings of the Church Fathers were not so simple either.
Yes, I’m sure you’re right about Wheelock’s. Also, you may already be aware of this book, “A Primer of Ecclesiastical Latin”:

amazon.com/Primer-Ecclesiastical-Latin-John-Collins/dp/0813206677/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1195893380&sr=8-1

It’s also got an answer book. Again, God bless whichever route you take, I think it’s really good to learn any kind of Latin period.
 
It’s okay to use a classical textbook for declensions and conjugations, but ecclesiastical Latin tends to honor certain classical rules more in the breach than the observance. They don’t call it “vulgar” Latin for nothing.

Good luck and if I can help with the quirkier side of church Latin, let me know.
 
I am currently trying to establish a structured manner to study Latin. Recently I have purchased the classic textbook Wheelock’s Latin.

I was wondering if anyone here would be interested in a communal effort to learn Latin online. I am considering setting up an internet forum for this purpose. This is not an online course, but a group where can track each other’s progress, work through the exercises and vocabulary in each chapter of Wheelock’s Latin, ask questions and such.

Would anyone be interested in something like this?
How about a subforum, for conversations in Latin?
 
Hi Caesar - I’m definitely interested. I just went to the Wheelock website, and it looks pretty good.

When do you think you’d like to start? I don’t have a book or anything yet, so I’d have to catch up if you’re planning on starting during Advent.

Blessings in Christ,

Ancilla
 
I was thinking about this myself. I attend the Tridentine Mass every week and I’d love to have a more thorough understanding of the language.
 
I am currently working on a forum. It will probably be finished tonight when I get back from work.
It’s also got an answer book. Again, God bless whichever route you take, I think it’s really good to learn any kind of Latin period.
My reason for using Wheelock’s is that it is probably the most common Latin textbook out there and many introductory Latin courses in universities are based on it.

I would agree that for our purposes as Catholics a text that uses Ecclesiastical Latin would be suitable, but such texts are less common then those which focus on Classical Latin.
 
I am currently trying to establish a structured manner to study Latin. Recently I have purchased the classic textbook Wheelock’s Latin.

I was wondering if anyone here would be interested in a communal effort to learn Latin online. I am considering setting up an internet forum for this purpose. This is not an online course, but a group where can track each other’s progress, work through the exercises and vocabulary in each chapter of Wheelock’s Latin, ask questions and such.

Would anyone be interested in something like this?
I could help arrange materials. Maybe even build some online tutorials/tests to be taken at certain intervals to track progress?
 
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I’ve studied latin for 3 years it is amazing language 🙂 Tomorrow I’m gonna go to latin mass 🙂
 
They should make a link to that forum as a sticky at the top of the Traditional Catholicism forum so that people are aware of its existence.
 
They should make a link to that forum as a sticky at the top of the Traditional Catholicism forum so that people are aware of its existence.
I was supposed to make a referance thread for this forum that would be stickied. Thanks for reminding me. I’ll make it tomorrow.
 
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