Anyone know of Dr. James White?

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If I am not mistaken, White is a follower of Calvin. I know a lot of protestants who really dislike Calvinism.

I’ve read through some of his blog. I think that he is intelligent but I also think that he believes being right is superior to the truth. I say that because it seems that he doesn’t mind using distortions to win an argument.

A year or so back, he quoted a thread from this forum. He used only the quotes that made it appear that all the Catholic posters were picking on him. He didn’t write anything positive that was written about him-like that he was intelligent or a good debator.

I can passionately disagree with someone and still have respect for that person but I am afraid that I lost respect for White’s integrity after reading that blog.
 
imho- You can tell your friend that he has good taste, in that Dr White is sound. But if its any help to you, I am Reformed and I love Dr Hahn. Ive learned some great things from him. Hahn use to be Reformed(Presbyterian faithful to the Westminster Confession If I remember), and it shows in his books(well at least some of the time)

Since its about time we behave as brethren, I see Hahn as a great way for Reformed to learn about our brothers and sisters. I am always challanged to find an answer when I disagree w’him. The discords often are w/Hahn going w/a feeling or tradition over scripture(IMO)
 
Reformed1 said:
Have you ever listened to or read something from him first hand?
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Yes, I have seen him debate Tim Staples, four or five years ago. I believe the subject was the Papacy. If you are not well grounded in the Faith Dr. White will sound credible. I enjoyed the debate because both parties were very knowledgable.

However, one thing I distinctly remembered: Dr. White has the tendency to divert the subject at hand when he can not give a direct answer, plus he will resort to below-the-belt jabs at Catholicism. At one point Dr White out of nowhere began to attack what he knows Catholics hold most sacred: the Eucharist. He used ridicule to attempt to throw Tim Staples off balance.

Get the tape and listen to what I am talking about.
 
Church_Militant said:
No one here cares one way or the other what White says or likes…he’s just another fount of anti-Catholic propaganda.

I’ve read some of his stuff and he’s unconvincing, especially to someone (like me) who has actually looked into the facts of what the Catholic Church teaches.

He’s been refuted again and again. If you think he’s all great and stuff, good for you, but don’t expect knowledgeable Catholics to hold him in any great esteem.
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If you don’t care for James, that’s fine by me. But, if you listen to his debates you may find that quite a few arguments that are thrown around here at CAF by Catholics are not used by apologists such as Sungenis, Madrid, Pacwa, Matatics, etc.
 
Reformed1 said:
If you don’t care for James, that’s fine by me. But, if you listen to his debates you may find that quite a few arguments that are thrown around here at CAF by Catholics are not used by apologists such as Sungenis, Madrid, Pacwa, Matatics, etc.
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I would agree.
 
E.E.N.S said:
I would agree.
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I don’t think you have to like the guy to learn from him or maybe more accurately learn from your own apologists what is and what isn’t a good argument when defending your faith.
 
Theodora said:
Yes, I have seen him debate Tim Staples, four or five years ago. I believe the subject was the Papacy. If you are not well grounded in the Faith Dr. White will sound credible. I enjoyed the debate because both parties were very knowledgable.

However, one thing I distinctly remembered: Dr. White has the tendency to divert the subject at hand when he can not give a direct answer, plus he will resort to below-the-belt jabs at Catholicism. At one point Dr White out of nowhere began to attack what he knows Catholics hold most sacred: the Eucharist. He used ridicule to attempt to throw Tim Staples off balance.

Get the tape and listen to what I am talking about.
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It works both ways Theodora.
 
Reformed1 said:
It works both ways Theodora.
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Anyone during the heat of a debate can go off subject. But the attack on the Eucharist came out of nowhere and had absolutely nothing to do with what was being touched on at that moment. If I recall correctly, Tim did not fall for it, and continued on track.

I have seen Dr White debate others, and have seen this same tactic of diversion used by him. As the years have gone by, I hope that Dr White has changed his style of debate by answering forthrightly instead of trying to impress the audience what he does know.
 
Reformed1 said:
He is a reformed baptist and engages in quite a bit of apologetics work. You can go to his website and purchase a number of debates between James and varioius catholic apologists such as; Robert Sungenis, Mitch Pacwa, Pat Madrid, Gary Matatics, Stravinskas, etc.
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Better yet, you can contact PhilV here on the forum… don’t support White… he is not just non-Catholic, he is anti-Catholic in much that he does.

By the way… most of those who debate him destroy him.
 
I guess I could look on another thread for the link

but there is a good link that gives the background/value of the degree that White has,…

it’s a hoot

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MrS said:
Better yet, you can contact PhilV here on the forum… don’t support White… he is not just non-Catholic, he is anti-Catholic in much that he does.

By the way… most of those who debate him destroy him.
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I’m sure you think they do.
 
the Catholic vs. Prostestant debate in mp3 format that I recommend from James White site that you can download for just a few bucks, is the Bible Answerman debate (or as James likes to refer to it: discussion).
In the format of the bible answerman radio show, both he and Jimmy Akins don’t get to go of for twenty minutes at a time before they are refuted. They make a comment, and then the other replies.
So they are able to refute the issues without having way too many issues to cover as happens in a debate format.


#468 - From The Bible Answer Man: Discussion with James Akin of Catholic Answers

I do have a question, the first post mentioned that the gentlemen wouldn’t listen to anything of Scott Hahn’s, but only of James Whites.

Does anyone know the reason why Scott Hahn will not debate James White?
 
runandsew said:
the Catholic vs. Prostestant debate in mp3 format that I recommend from James White site that you can download for just a few bucks, is the Bible Answerman debate (or as James likes to refer to it: discussion).
In the format of the bible answerman radio show, both he and Jimmy Akins don’t get to go of for twenty minutes at a time before they are refuted. They make a comment, and then the other replies.
So they are able to refute the issues without having way too many issues to cover as happens in a debate format.


#468 - From The Bible Answer Man: Discussion with James Akin of Catholic Answers

I do have a question, the first post mentioned that the gentlemen wouldn’t listen to anything of Scott Hahn’s, but only of James Whites.

Does anyone know the reason why Scott Hahn will not debate James White?
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Hahn has a legitimate degree, and perhaps he is no longer interested in debates… or perhaps White is familiar with Hahn debating in Dallas… and it is White who won"t debate.

Additionally, White now refuses to debate Sungenis again… no suprise there if you have head any of their 5 or so debates in which Sungenis sticks to the topic, stays with the truth… and lets White finish second.
 
runandsew said:
the Catholic vs. Prostestant debate in mp3 format that I recommend from James White site that you can download for just a few bucks, is the Bible Answerman debate (or as James likes to refer to it: discussion).
In the format of the bible answerman radio show, both he and Jimmy Akins don’t get to go of for twenty minutes at a time before they are refuted. They make a comment, and then the other replies.
So they are able to refute the issues without having way too many issues to cover as happens in a debate format.


#468 - From The Bible Answer Man: Discussion with James Akin of Catholic Answers

I do have a question, the first post mentioned that the gentlemen wouldn’t listen to anything of Scott Hahn’s, but only of James Whites.

Does anyone know the reason why Scott Hahn will not debate James White?
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I prefer that type of debate format. It does keep people on track.

God Bless,

Denise
 
Reformed1 said:
Your not one to correct me for snide comments…I would suggest you both look in the mirror and offer fraternal correction to the catholic memebers of the forum if you are going to call me on something.

If you don’t care for James, that’s fine by me. But, if you listen to his debates you may find that quite a few arguments that are thrown around here at CAF by Catholics are not used by apologists such as Sungenis, Madrid, Pacwa, Matatics, etc.
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Why would we need apologetics from someone who bases his beliefs on the essential error of Sola Scriptura.

I don’t make snide remarks, I point up facts…
  1. You were mockingly unkind to a Catholic lady in your post and (so far as I have seen) have not offered any sort of apology.
  2. You now attempt to shift blame to me when I point out to you your gaff.
  3. You seem to expect Catholics to laud James White’s apologetics when in fact (as I pointed out) he begins with a erroneous premise and in so doing will simply offer weak apologetics compared with even the lowliest of our own apologists.
If you don’t agree with the Catholic Church, that is well and good, but please don’t attempt to excuse poor charity without an apology.

I did not set out to offend you, but you certainly chose to mock a lady here for her simple observation concerning an ex that you did not even know.

James White is an anti-Catholic propagandist who displays either a poor understanding of the Catholic faith or an intentional effort to misrepresent the beliefs of the Catholic faith.

You will no doubt defend him regardless and that is your prerogative, and we Catholics will exercise ours in that we call his propaganda and rhetoric as we see it.

Welcome to America…
 
Church_Militant said:
I don’t make snide remarks, I point up facts…
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Yeah…right.
Church_Militant said:
  1. You were mockingly unkind to a Catholic lady in your post and (so far as I have seen) have not offered any sort of apology.
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Not sure what you are talking about here. Which post?
Church_Militant said:
  1. You seem to expect Catholics to laud James White’s apologetics when in fact (as I pointed out) he begins with a erroneous premise and in so doing will simply offer weak apologetics compared with even the lowliest of our own apologists.
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Which post of mine did I expect you to “laud” White’s work?
Church_Militant said:
If you don’t agree with the Catholic Church, that is well and good, but please don’t attempt to excuse poor charity without an apology.
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You are more than a little hypocritical.
Church_Militant said:
I did not set out to offend you, but you certainly chose to mock a lady here for her simple observation concerning an ex that you did not even know.
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Again, what lady did I mock and since the supposed female victim of the said mocking hasn’t said anything about it, do you think you might be a little oversensitive? Do you have a crush on the lady in question? A little internet romance perhaps?
 
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