Apocalypse Code - By Hank Hanagraff - I Thought It Was Outstanding!

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Has anyone else read the “Bible Answer Man’s” new book “The Apocalypse Code”? I am giving it to my protestant mother who is always informing me about the latest Hal Lindsey stuff. I read it through rapidly yesterday and I couldn’t find a single thing wrong with it. He even twice renounced the protestant tendency to identifiy the whore of Babylon with the Catholic Church! It takes the same dating (pre 70 A.D.) and basic interpretation of Revelation as Scott Hann does - minus the liturgical emphasis about the Mass. It seems to be indistinguishable from Catholic eschatology. It completely demolishes “Christian Zionism.” Should those of us who are Catholic converts recommend it to our dispensationalist friends that we have “left behind” in our former denominations? What do you think? 👍
 
ROBAUTEN said:
Has anyone else read the “Bible Answer Man’s” new book “The Apocalypse Code”? I am giving it to my protestant mother who is always informing me about the latest Hal Lindsey stuff. I read it through rapidly yesterday and I couldn’t find a single thing wrong with it. He even twice renounced the protestant tendency to identifiy the whore of Babylon with the Catholic Church! It takes the same dating (pre 70 A.D.) and basic interpretation of Revelation as Scott Hann does - minus the liturgical emphasis about the Mass. It seems to be indistinguishable from Catholic eschatology. It completely demolishes “Christian Zionism.” Should those of us who are Catholic converts recommend it to our dispensationalist friends that we have “left behind” in our former denominations? What do you think? 👍
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I would be very careful in reading any protestant attempted interpretation of Revelation. If you do not believe in the Eucharist and the Heavenly worship that is occuring during the Liturgy of the Eucharist, you can not understand the book of Revelation because the first 11chapters have to do with the Heavenly Mass.
 
ROBAUTEN said:
Has anyone else read the “Bible Answer Man’s” new book “The Apocalypse Code”? I am giving it to my protestant mother who is always informing me about the latest Hal Lindsey stuff. I read it through rapidly yesterday and I couldn’t find a single thing wrong with it. He even twice renounced the protestant tendency to identifiy the whore of Babylon with the Catholic Church! It takes the same dating (pre 70 A.D.) and basic interpretation of Revelation as Scott Hann does - minus the liturgical emphasis about the Mass. It seems to be indistinguishable from Catholic eschatology. It completely demolishes “Christian Zionism.” Should those of us who are Catholic converts recommend it to our dispensationalist friends that we have “left behind” in our former denominations? What do you think? 👍
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Hank Hanagraff is very anti-Catholic. I have been listening to his Bible Answerman show for years. His views on salvation, the sacraments, the Church and many other tenets of our faith are extremely distorted and while he is very articulate one must sift through his theological dances and focus on his message. Hal Lindsey’s “Late Great Planet Earth” is another must run from book. Hank Hanagraff actually disapproves of Hal Lindsey and makes no bones about it on his radio show.

We have countless Catholic resources and authors that exhibit the true teachings of the Catholic Church concerning eschatology. We do not need to move into Protestant literature to see if there is anything wrong with it. There had to be or else that author would be Catholic. Protestant theology concerning salvation and the end times vary with as many denominations as there are interpretations of scripture in this matter.

Stick with Scott Hahn and the like and you never have to post a “What do you think” in this forum. Catholic writers and apologists are the resources Catholics need and left to our own senses if one is not fully knowledgable in Catholicism we could lead not only others but ourselves astray…God bless…teachccd 🙂
 
Thank you for the warnings - I am also very familiar with Hank Hannagraph’s anti-Catholic stance and I would never rely on him or refer to him in most matters. My question was if anyone had actually read this particular book and thought it might be a good book to recommend to protestants (not Catholics) who are stuck in the dispensationational mindset. As you may know, classical reformed eschatology is virtually the same as Catholic eschatology. Protestants may be more disposed to listen to him than to a Scott Hann and then they would be more open to dialogue from the Catholic point of view.
 
I purchased and read The Navarre Bible series on Revelation and it is wonderful. Strongly encourage to read because it has commentary from St.Augustine, St.Thomas Aquinas, St.Josemaria Escriva, St.Ambrose, and Pope John Paul II. These saints are truly divinely inspired theologians especially when it comes to the Apocalyptic litature in the book of Revelation.
 
ROBAUTEN said:
Thank you for the warnings - I am also very familiar with Hank Hannagraph’s anti-Catholic stance and I would never rely on him or refer to him in most matters. My question was if anyone had actually read this particular book and thought it might be a good book to recommend to protestants (not Catholics) who are stuck in the dispensationational mindset. As you may know, classical reformed eschatology is virtually the same as Catholic eschatology. Protestants may be more disposed to listen to him than to a Scott Hann and then they would be more open to dialogue from the Catholic point of view.
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While this point may be true, I would be considered about turning any on to this particular author. What I mean is, if she likes this book, she may want to read others that he has written that are more anti-Catholic, and that would not be a good thing.

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ROBAUTEN said:
Thank you for the warnings - I am also very familiar with Hank Hannagraph’s anti-Catholic stance and I would never rely on him or refer to him in most matters. My question was if anyone had actually read this particular book and thought it might be a good book to recommend to protestants (not Catholics) who are stuck in the dispensationational mindset. As you may know, classical reformed eschatology is virtually the same as Catholic eschatology. Protestants may be more disposed to listen to him than to a Scott Hann and then they would be more open to dialogue from the Catholic point of view.
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I would say: Yes, I believe works like Hanegraaff’s would be more helpful to a non-Catholic stuck in Dispensationalism more than than giving them a Catholic book on the subject.

For one thing, hard-core Dispensationalists tend to be extremely anti-Catholic–it is implicit in the theology and the system doesn’t “work” if you are willing to acknowledge in any way the legitimacy of the Catholic Church. These people would no sooner read a Catholic book than they would books by Satanists.

Hanegraaffs books are at least not rabidly anti-Catholic, and would give the Dispensationalist at least an alternate, significantly more biblical and historical, interpretation of apocalyptic literature like the Book of Revelation (Revelation is singular, BTW, not plural --Revelations-- like some people mistakenly phrase it). I’d also recommend to these types Protestant books by Gary DeMar, like End Times Fiction.

They aren’t perfect, and they aren’t Catholic, but at least they are a step in the right direction. Baby steps. 🙂
 
Baby steps are good but I wouldn’t promote Hank Hanagraff if my life depended on it. And in reality our eternal life does. I’ve listened to this man for years as an apologetical tool but would never recommend him. I see the reasoning where if one slowly brings someone to an understanding then they might see the reasoning within Catholic theology. But if one took off with his writings you might as well write off any thoughts of them looking towards Catholicism. I’ve heard him dart around every tenet of our faith. He did say that we are Christian as we did not distort the nature of God as triune.Thank you Mr. Hanagraff for the compliment. DISTORT THE NATURE OF GOD???WE UPHELD IT IN THE MANY COUNCILS FOLLOWING ARIANISM…

No. Use anything but Hank’s book even if it sounds good. Remember wolves come in sheep’s clothing…God Bless…teachccd
 
Fidelis said:
I would say: Yes, I believe works like Hanegraaff’s would be more helpful to a non-Catholic stuck in Dispensationalism more than than giving them a Catholic book on the subject.
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I’m sorry if this sounds brazen but should we give a Jehovah’s Witness a book written by a Seventh Day Adventist to reverse their theological thoughts?? I know what the intent is here. It’s to slowly divert someone’s direction of thinking. But there must be someone like C.S. Lewis or other more neutral Protestant authors than Hank. When I heard him say that we distorted the sixth chapter of John’s gospel to create our own theology on the Eucharist, I almost crashed my car. Stay as far away from this man as possible unless you are fully grounded in our faith and utilize his teachings as a springboard for apologetics. Otherwise run as there are a zillion other authors out there including Protestant that would be far more beneficial for anyone.

Don’t let Hank’s articulate speach and college level rhetorics take hold. He’s bad news and that’s all there is to it. Unless you are against the Papacy, Sacraments, Justification by faith and works, praying to saints, the Mass, the Eucharist, and the many other ancient tenets of our faith. He’s literally torn apart each of these on his show and if he ever read a book written by a Catholic author it would only be to undermine its content…teachccd
 
Like I said, I would recommend Hanegraaffs books on the End Times to Protestants that would refuse to read Catholic material offered or recommended to them.

If it was a choice between recommending him and leaving people to wallow in the destructive and blatant and crude anti-Catholic morass of Dispensationalism, I’d pick Hanegraaff.
 
Fidelis said:
I would say: Yes, I believe works like Hanegraaff’s would be more helpful to a non-Catholic stuck in Dispensationalism more than than giving them a Catholic book on the subject.

For one thing, hard-core Dispensationalists tend to be extremely anti-Catholic–it is implicit in the theology and the system doesn’t “work” if you are willing to acknowledge in any way the legitimacy of the Catholic Church. These people would no sooner read a Catholic book than they would books by Satanists.
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Yes, Dispensationalists are the most vocal anti-Catholics in my experience, and will go so far to say that Catholics aren’t Christians.
 
JohnnyReb said:
Yes, Dispensationalists are the most vocal anti-Catholics in my experience, and will go so far to say that Catholics aren’t Christians.
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Absolutely. If you ventured to read some of Tim LaHaye’s “non-fiction” books, he includes whole chapters about Catholicism that are right out of such notorious anti-Catholic screeds as “Babylon Mystery Religion,” “A Woman Rides the Beast,” and any number of Jack Chick tracts.
 
Fidelis said:
Absolutely. If you ventured to read some of Tim LaHaye’s “non-fiction” books, he includes whole chapters about Catholicism that are right out of such notorious anti-Catholic screeds as “Babylon Mystery Religion,” “A Woman Rides the Beast,” and any number of Jack Chick tracts.
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Fidelis, just today I learned that Ralph Woodrow has distanced himself from much of what he wrote about Catholicism in his book Babylon Mystery Religion; if you do a search for Ralph Woodrow Evangelistic Association you’ll find him addressing this and explaining why he has taken that work out of print. For doing so he’s been accused of being, among other things, an “undercover Jesuit”.
 
Fidelis said:
Like I said, I would recommend Hanegraaffs books on the End Times to Protestants that would refuse to read Catholic material offered or recommended to them.

If it was a choice between recommending him and leaving people to wallow in the destructive and blatant and crude anti-Catholic morass of Dispensationalism, I’d pick Hanegraaff.
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Lesser of two evils…gotcha! 🙂
 
Well at least Fidelis heard and understood my question. Thank you. I repeat I have no illusions about Hank Hanagraph. However if I gave a catholic book to this person they would assume it was in error and even satanic and would not read it. They assume that dispensationalism is the only protestant position on end times that valid and bible-believing. In order to interact with them I am giving them Hank’s book which they will gladly recieve and actually will read. On a quick read through I didn’t find anything wrong with this particular book and I wondered if anyone else had read it and could comment on this book in particular - not Mr Hanagraph in general. Are there some snakes in the grass [in this book] that I did not see? Aren’t we to be open to truth wherever we find it?
The original poster.
 
ROBAUTEN said:
Well at least Fidelis heard and understood my question. Thank you. I repeat I have no illusions about Hank Hanagraph. However if I gave a catholic book to this person they would assume it was in error and even satanic and would not read it. They assume that dispensationalism is the only protestant position on end times that valid and bible-believing. In order to interact with them I am giving them Hank’s book which they will gladly recieve and actually will read. On a quick read through I didn’t find anything wrong with this particular book and I wondered if anyone else had read it and could comment on this book in particular - not Mr Hanagraph in general. Are there some snakes in the grass [in this book] that I did not see? Aren’t we to be open to truth wherever we find it?
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I’m sorry that my posts were of no use to you. I won’t return. I did understand your question as I mentioned in all of my posts. Your statement about commenting on a book without regarding the author is dangerous as most books reflect their authors since it is they who wrote it. Good luck with your Protestant friend and may Hank’s book bring this person forward. God Bless you…teachccd 🙂
 
ROBAUTEN said:
Has anyone else read the “Bible Answer Man’s” new book “The Apocalypse Code”? I am giving it to my protestant mother who is always informing me about the latest Hal Lindsey stuff. I read it through rapidly yesterday and I couldn’t find a single thing wrong with it. He even twice renounced the protestant tendency to identifiy the whore of Babylon with the Catholic Church! It takes the same dating (pre 70 A.D.) and basic interpretation of Revelation as Scott Hann does - minus the liturgical emphasis about the Mass. It seems to be indistinguishable from Catholic eschatology. It completely demolishes “Christian Zionism.” Should those of us who are Catholic converts recommend it to our dispensationalist friends that we have “left behind” in our former denominations? What do you think? 👍
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I read it cover-to-cover. Everything that Hank asserts in this book is consistent with Catholic doctrine.

I liked the book, but I thought it was terribly written. It’s as if an early draft of the book got sent to the publisher. The book is disorganized, and it says little about the book of Revelation. I thought it was going to be a book about Revelation. It’s not. It’s an introductory book on a method of hermeneutics and the dating of Revelation.

But I like this book for speaking against Dispensational theology, the false prophet Hal Lindsey, and Tim LaHaye. Three cheers for that!
 
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