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Eliza10
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I need some help. If you can, please do, or even just send me to a link. I somehow got involved in fielding many questions about our faith and I realize it is a priviledge but I am also wondering how I am going to have the time to get to all of them! So I am seeking help here as a shortcut. Any help would be appreciated.
I know that Mary will crush the head of Satan. I said as much on this discussion group (Evangelcial, a group I used to be a member of and was just visiting but now find myself discussing Catholic a lot!). Now they are asking, where do you get this? I know its from scripture.
Here is what I said and the response:
:
<< Mary, after all, will crush the head of the devil with her heel,
right? >>
This statement really struck me, [Eliza10]. Where do you get this idea?
The reason it struck me is that it sounds so much like the following
verse, except for the identity of the “crusher.”
GEN. 3:15 [God speaking to the serpent after the fall in the[/color]
garden]: “I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between
your seed and her seed. He will bruise your head and you will bruise
his heel.”
Bible scholars have interpreted this passage as a prophetic reference
to Christ and his work on the cross. The passage is known as
the “protoevangelion” – which means it is the first passage in the
Bible that speaks of the “evangel” – the “gospel” – that the Messiah
would die, but that his death would be the very means of victory over
Satan.
[Eliza10] – your statement appears to give Mary the credit for “crushing
Satan’s head under the heel,” rather than giving the credit to
Christ. At the very least, the passage says “his head” and “his
heel” – not “hers,” and certainly not “Mary’s.”
Perhaps it is statements like this that cause Boettner and so many
others to believe that Catholicism gives Mary the place of Christ? If
not, I would be interested in an explanation as to why this statement
does not fit that claim? I would also be interested in an explanation
as to where you got this idea?
Thanks –
M
Well I forgot where I got the idea! I think it is a combination of this verse as well as something from Revelation. I also read recently somewhere that this verse actually does say, “he” will burise the heel - yet still it is about Mary. Can someone help with this? I don’t doubt the teaching - just wonder what scriptrue we use to back it up.
Also i want to add I think the writer of this is a pastor.
I know that Mary will crush the head of Satan. I said as much on this discussion group (Evangelcial, a group I used to be a member of and was just visiting but now find myself discussing Catholic a lot!). Now they are asking, where do you get this? I know its from scripture.
Here is what I said and the response:
:
<< Mary, after all, will crush the head of the devil with her heel,
right? >>
This statement really struck me, [Eliza10]. Where do you get this idea?
The reason it struck me is that it sounds so much like the following
verse, except for the identity of the “crusher.”
GEN. 3:15 [God speaking to the serpent after the fall in the[/color]
garden]: “I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between
your seed and her seed. He will bruise your head and you will bruise
his heel.”
Bible scholars have interpreted this passage as a prophetic reference
to Christ and his work on the cross. The passage is known as
the “protoevangelion” – which means it is the first passage in the
Bible that speaks of the “evangel” – the “gospel” – that the Messiah
would die, but that his death would be the very means of victory over
Satan.
[Eliza10] – your statement appears to give Mary the credit for “crushing
Satan’s head under the heel,” rather than giving the credit to
Christ. At the very least, the passage says “his head” and “his
heel” – not “hers,” and certainly not “Mary’s.”
Perhaps it is statements like this that cause Boettner and so many
others to believe that Catholicism gives Mary the place of Christ? If
not, I would be interested in an explanation as to why this statement
does not fit that claim? I would also be interested in an explanation
as to where you got this idea?
Thanks –
M
Well I forgot where I got the idea! I think it is a combination of this verse as well as something from Revelation. I also read recently somewhere that this verse actually does say, “he” will burise the heel - yet still it is about Mary. Can someone help with this? I don’t doubt the teaching - just wonder what scriptrue we use to back it up.
Also i want to add I think the writer of this is a pastor.