Apostles to judge the 12 tribes?

[cazayoux]

Hello !!

I'm in Matthew at the moment and just read 19:27-30 where Jesus tells the apostles that they will sit on 12 thrones to judge the 12 tribes of Israel.

Judas can't be one of the twelve though.

Is Matthew 19 the reason for showing Judas' replacement (Matthias) in Acts 1?

I've read Acts 1 in the context of showing apostolic succession.  Showing that an office remained even after the individual passed, but maybe that's not the only purpose for that passage.

Is it also showing the filling of the vacancy of the throne in Matt 19?

As I read, I usually end up thinking of connections, but I need someone a lot smarter than I am whose studied this material to possibly tie this all together for me.

Many thanks for any insight you studied folks have.

michel

 

[Verbum]

Hi Cazayoux,

From the whole context of the New Testament, it is obvious that Jesus did not choose 12 apostles haphazardly. The Old Israel ( the 12 tribes) is replaced by the New Israel (the Church) and the 12 apostles are the foundation of that Church. The apostles themselves understood this, since the first thing they did after Jesus’ ascension was to find a replacement, who was a witness of Jesus’ resurrection.

Jesus’ words about the 12 thrones refers to their role as the foundations of the New Israel.

Verbum

 

[brotherhrolf]

Sorry that this is so tangential but I can’t help but think that Cazayoux is Cajun and he gets a response from Verbum in French Canada Gotta love it!

 

[cazayoux]

Sorry that this is so tangential but I can’t help but think that Cazayoux is Cajun and he gets a response from Verbum in French Canada Gotta love it!

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salut!

 

[Nita]

Thanks for the thread cazayoux - and your comments Verbum. Made me ponder beyond the obvious meaning also. Besides being the 12 for the foundation of the Church here on earth, I thought of the 12 in the heavenly kingdom/city described in Revelation 21:
verse 14: And the wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them the twelve name of the twelve names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

Nita

 

[Deacon_Joseph]

Hi Cazayoux,

From the whole context of the New Testament, it is obvious that Jesus did not choose 12 apostles haphazardly. The Old Israel ( the 12 tribes) is replaced by the New Israel (the Church) and the 12 apostles are the foundation of that Church. The apostles themselves understood this, since the first thing they did after Jesus’ ascension was to find a replacement, who was a witness of Jesus’ resurrection.

Jesus’ words about the 12 thrones refers to their role as the foundations of the New Israel.

Verbum

I could not put it any better than that. That is exactly how I learned it. In Revalation 21, talking about the 12 foundations, etc., is connected to this as well. Revalation is apocalyptic writing, which is a lot of symbolizm, which I think, reflects Verbum’s quote as well.