Apostolic Succession Lists Part 2

[mikeeh]

I’ve come to understand it like this: the apostles worked together to spread the faith traveling from town to town and establishing a Christian community as Christ instructed them to do. But the authority of the Church followed Peter not a building or community. When Peter established the Church of Rome (Christian Community in Rome) he left that as the head of the Christian faith. When the Western Churches became more unified, it was the Eastern Churches that chose to reject the authority of the Church of Rome. While there are older churches than the Church of Rome, the Catholic Church (Universal Church) was with Peter and Peter left it with the Church of Rome.

 

[Nestor_kea]

So here is my question: Can the following 4 lists (provided below), be used to demonstrate that our Church has Apostolic Succession? Are these lists below valid? Thanks.

I think that with no other information they cannot. Usually the new pope is not consecrated by the previous and I doubt that in these lists were new patriarchs consecrated by the previous ones as a rule (especially when having different opinions on dogmatic topics). Many popes (and probably patriarchs) were consecrated by some bishop from their region so for this purpose we need lists which would go back from any bishop (who consecrated another bishop) to the apostles. Something like catholic-hierarchy.org tries to do.