Apostolic Traditions

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Can someone please show me a list or give me examples of some? 🙂

Would Mary’s Immaculate Conception, Assumption, and Perpetual Virginity be regarded as such?
 
Jesus’s simultaneous full humanity and full divinity, Purgatory, baptism as the remission of sins. Basically, a lot of what is in the Nicene Creed is Apostolic (Sacred) Tradition. And yes, those Marian doctrines would also be Sacred Tradition.
 
Jesus’s simultaneous full humanity and full divinity, Purgatory, baptism as the remission of sins. Basically, a lot of what is in the Nicene Creed is Apostolic (Sacred) Tradition. And yes, those Marian doctrines would also be Sacred Tradition.
Okay, so please correct me if I’m wrong…Sacred Tradition are teachings that aren’t explicitly mentioned in Sacred Scripture but implied, right? For example, Jesus’s resurrection is explicit. Purgatory is implicit. So purgatory is Sacred Tradition. Correct? Or would Jesus’s resurection also be Sacred Tradition?
 
Can someone please show me a list or give me examples of some? 🙂

Would Mary’s Immaculate Conception, Assumption, and Perpetual Virginity be regarded as such?
My understanding is you want some patristic quotes right? If so let me copy and paste some:

Irenaeus:

Consequently, then, Mary the Virgin is found to be obedient, saying, “Behold, 0 Lord, your handmaid; be it done to me according to your word.” Eve . . . who was then still a virgin although she had Adam for a husband — for in paradise they were both naked but were not ashamed; for, having been created only a short time, they had no understanding of the procreation of children . . . having become disobedient [sin], was made the cause of death for herself and for the whole human race; so also Mary, betrothed to a man but nevertheless still a virgin, being obedient [no sin], was made the cause of salvation for herself and for the whole human race. . . . Thus, the knot of Eve’s disobedience was loosed by the obedience of Mary. What the virgin Eve had bound in unbelief, the Virgin Mary loosed through faith (Against Heresies 3:22:24 [A.D. 189]).

Origen:

“This Virgin Mother of the Only-begotten of God is called Mary, worthy of God, immaculate of the immaculate, one of the one” (Homily 1 [A.D. 244]).

Hippolytus:

“He [Jesus] was the ark formed of incorruptible wood. For by this is signified that His tabernacle [Mary] was exempt from defilement and corruption” (Orat. In Illud, Dominus pascit me, in Gallandi, Bibl. Patrum, II, 496 ante [A.D. 235]).

Ephraim the Syrian:

“You alone and your Mother are more beautiful than any others, for there is neither blemish in you nor any stains upon your Mother. Who of my children can compare in beauty to these?” (Nisibene Hymns 27:8 [A. D. 361]).

Ambrose of Milan:

"Come, then, and search out your sheep, not through your servants or hired men, but do it yourself. Lift me up bodily and in the flesh, which is fallen in Adam. Lift me up not from Sarah but from Mary, a Virgin not only undefiled but a Virgin whom grace had made inviolate, free of every stain of sin "(Commentary on Psalm 118:22-30 [A.D. 387]).

Gregory Nazianzen:

“He was conceived by the virgin, who had been first purified by the Spirit in soul and body; for, as it was fitting that childbearing should receive its share of honor, so it was necessary that virginity should receive even greater honor” (Sermon 38 [d. A.D. 390]).

Augustine

“We must except the Holy Virgin Mary, concerning whom I wish to raise no question when it touches the subject of sins, out of honor to the Lord; for from Him we know what abundance of grace for overcoming sin in every particular was conferred upon her who had the merit to conceive and bear Him who undoubtedly had no sin” (Nature and Grace 36:42 [A.D. 415]).

Theodotus of Ancrya

“A virgin, innocent, spotless, free of all defect, untouched, unsullied, holy in soul and body, like a lily sprouting among thorns” (Homily 6:11[ante A.D. 446]).

Proclus of Constantinople

“As He formed her without any stain of her own, so He proceeded from her contracting no stain” (Homily 1[ante A.D. 446]).

Jacob of Sarug

“[T]he very fact that God has elected her proves that none was ever holier than Mary, if any stain had disfigured her soul, if any other virgin had been purer and holier, God would have selected her and rejected Mary”[ante A.D. 521].

Romanos the Melodist

“Then the tribes of Israel heard that Anna had conceived the immaculate one. So everyone took part in the rejoicing. Joachim gave a banquet, and great was the merriment in the garden. He invited the priests and Levites to prayer; then he called Mary into the center of the crowd, that she might be magnified” (On the Birth of Mary 1 [d. ca A.D. 560]).
 
Okay, so please correct me if I’m wrong…Sacred Tradition are teachings that aren’t explicitly mentioned in Sacred Scripture but implied, right? For example, Jesus’s resurrection is explicit. Purgatory is implicit. So purgatory is Sacred Tradition. Correct? Or would Jesus’s resurection also be Sacred Tradition?
Sacred Tradition helps us understand the Bible.

“I have often then inquired earnestly and attentively of very many men eminent for sanctity and learning, how and by what sure and so to speak universal rule I may be able to distinguish the truth of Catholic faith from the falsehood of heretical depravity; and I have always, and in almost every instance, received an answer to this effect: that whether I or anyone else should wish to detect the frauds and avoid the snares of heretics as they arise, and to continue sound and complete in the Catholic faith, we must, the Lord helping, fortify our own belief in two ways: first, by the authority of the divine law [Scripture], and then by the tradition of the Catholic Church. But here some one perhaps will ask, ‘Since the canon of Scripture is complete, and sufficient of itself for everything, and more than sufficient, what need is there to join with it the authority of the Church’s interpretation?’ For this reason: Because, owing to the depth of holy Scripture, all do not accept it in one and the same sense, but one understands its words in one way, another in another, so that it seems to be capable of as many interpretations as there are men. . . . Therefore, it is very necessary, on account of so great intricacies of such various errors, that the rule for the right understanding of the prophets and apostles should be framed in accordance with the standard of ecclesiastical and catholic interpretation” (The Notebooks 2:1–2 [A.D. 434]).

-Vincent of Lerins
 
Okay, so please correct me if I’m wrong…Sacred Tradition are teachings that aren’t explicitly mentioned in Sacred Scripture but implied, right? For example, Jesus’s resurrection is explicit. Purgatory is implicit. So purgatory is Sacred Tradition. Correct? Or would Jesus’s resurection also be Sacred Tradition?
The Sacred Tradition contains all that is in the bible and more. It is the Tradition that produced the bible in the first place - read the prologue to Luke. He relied on what was told to him in writing his Gospel. That information was relayed to him as an example of the Apostolic Tradition.
 
The Sacred Tradition contains all that is in the bible and more. It is the Tradition that produced the bible in the first place - read the prologue to Luke. He relied on what was told to him in writing his Gospel. That information was relayed to him as an example of the Apostolic Tradition.
I see 🙂 I’ve read that Sacred Scripture is basically the written portion of Sacred Tradition, but that they have equal authority. Is that accurate?
 
Can someone please show me a list or give me examples of some? 🙂

Would Mary’s Immaculate Conception, Assumption, and Perpetual Virginity be regarded as such?
I see 🙂 I’ve read that Sacred Scripture is basically the written portion of Sacred Tradition, but that they have equal authority. Is that accurate?
Yes, Sacred Scripture is part of the Sacred Tradition, and shares in its authority. Other parts of the Tradition are liturgy and sacraments. But Sacred Tradition need not even be Apostolic to be authoritative. All the Ecumenical Councils are part of Sacred Tradition too.
 
Can someone please show me a list or give me examples of some? 🙂

Would Mary’s Immaculate Conception, Assumption, and Perpetual Virginity be regarded as such?
I think this article will describe it well for you…mark-shea.com/tradition.html

Sacred Tradition is the living and growing truth of Christ contained, not only in Scripture, but in the common teaching, common life, and common worship of the Church. That is why the Tradition that does not change can seem to have changed so much. For this common teaching, life and worship is a living thing-a truth which was planted as a mustard seed in first century Jerusalem and which has not ceased growing since-as our Lord prophesied in Mark 4:30-32. The plant doesn’t look like the seed, but it is more mustardy than ever.

In Scripture, as today, the unwritten aspect of Sacred Tradition is not some separate, secret and parallel revelation, but the common teaching, common life, and common worship of the whole Church. In Scripture, as today, this Tradition grows like the mustard seed and, as a result, gets more mustardy, not less. In Scripture, as today, the Church in council sits on the judge’s bench and listens to the testimony of Scripture in light of its Tradition in order to discern how best to define that Tradition more precisely.
 
Can someone please show me a list or give me examples of some? 🙂

Would Mary’s Immaculate Conception, Assumption, and Perpetual Virginity be regarded as such?
Essentially all of the faith would fall under the category of Apostolic Tradition.

I “think” what you are asking for is a list of Apostolic Traditions and “explicitly derivable from scipture.”

True?

Chuck
 
EVERYTHING that Catholics believe is Apostolic Tradition. Some of it happened to be written down (in a formal manner) at some point (such as the New Testament and the Immaculate Conception). More will be formally written in the future - but it remains Apostolic Tradition.
 
Can someone please show me a list or give me examples of some? 🙂

Would Mary’s Immaculate Conception, Assumption, and Perpetual Virginity be regarded as such?
We first need to know what the word “tradition” mean. Tradition is something that is passed down from generation to generation. Apostolic Traditions are teachings from the Apostles that has been passed down by writing (Scripture) or orally (Sacred Oral Traditions). Scripture contatins the materially, and Sacred Tradition brings out the true meaning of Scripture.

One example of Apostolic Tradition that Christians agree upon is the teaching of the Holy Trinity. It states that there are three persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) in one God because they share the same divine nature. Scripture shows there is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. However, it does not explain how there are three persons in one God. In addition, the Bible does not say ones divinity is or is not inferior to the other. It is through the Sacred Tradition that helps interpret what Scripture is saying.

Answer to your second question, the teaching of Mary would be part of Apostolic Tradition.
 
Wow thank you everyone! You’ve definitely cleared a lot up…its gonna take a while to stick to me but I understand 🙂 and chuck that would also be great! 😃
 
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A very good example of Apostolic Tradition is our understanding of the Trinity. No where is the Trinity explained in scripture in the way we understand it. In fact going on just what scripture had to say one could very well be a Modalist denying the Trinity. But we understand the Trinity the way it was defined by the church who were not limited to scripture alone. The Trinity was defined using terms from Greek philosophical thought which are totally foreign to scripture or Jewish philosophy.
 
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