"Apple is Catholic and PC is protestant?"

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Okay, so I read online that apparently apple is Catholic, while PC (windows I think) is Protestant. Is saying something like this actually true and valid, or just weird?
I mean, when I read it I thought that was kinda odd, and who actually came up with that idea, or how they did. Does that mean a Catholic can’t buy a PC and a Protestant cant own an iPhone?
People have been saying the Pope and Vatican use apple devices.
But people also said that apple apparently support gay marriage or something.
Is that a proper reason to not use apple? I mean, you can get a lot of Catholic apps on Apple devices (as I’m sure you can with PCs) I have a Divine Mercy app on my iPod touch (which I’m using now) and that app has really opened my eyes and thought me more about God’s Divine Mercy and Love.
So I don’t get the idea, or comparisons.
Is going against a company just for the company’s or people who work in that company’s beliefs proper, or is it being wrong and judgmental?
Or is the actual idea in all this is just loads of over thinking and kind of stupid?
I mean, a lot of Catholics own apple, and I’m sure a lot of Catholics own PCs. And the same with Protestants.
I don’t really understand it either.
I’m a scrupulous person so is this whole idea just scrupulous?
God Bless
 
Also, apparently Apple sued the Church and Samsung for use of “a slide to unlock” feature.
I don’t even know.
 
I think the whole thing is just scrupulous! Anyone can own an iphone or whatever else.
 
Sounds like nonsense…however it is common knowledge that all Car makers worldwide are agnostic, and only one is Catholic…

Which one?

Fiat, of course!

Peace and all good!
 
vanessabyrne said:
I’m a scrupulous person so is this whole idea just scrupulous?
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I would say your response to it is scrupulous. The fact that someone is commenting on some broad similarities between tech companies and denominations doesn’t mean we have to take any action.

I hadn’t heard this before, but obviously it’s an older idea since the apparent battleground in this metaphor is desktop computers. Nowadays such a comparison would probably involve Google or Facebook.

I think it’s an interesting approach to compare Apple, which has a more top-down, controlling approach to its market, to the Catholic Church, and contrast it with Microsoft Windows, which allows any company to manufacture its own PC’s to run Windows, which results in a much more splintered Protestant-style marketplace.

The obvious weakness in this analogy is that Apple tended to be more innovative and daring, and its engineers (and thus products) were early-adopters of new hardware, and early-abandoners of older hardware such as floppy drives. The Catholic Church, on the other hand, tends to be much more conservative than most protestants in its practices, is rarely an early adopter of anything new (though it was an early-adopter of many things that are now old), and is loathe to ever abandon anything if it can be avoided.
 
That sort of statement that Apple is Catholic while PCs are Protestant could be taken as a metaphor pointing to the characteristics of the typical owner.

Just like some people are dog lovers and hate cats, some love cats and hate dogs, or some women love knitting but hate crochet, and vice versa, or even Coke vs. Pepsi, sometimes the object of the liking says something about the person.

The worldview of a Catholic tends to be about God is in creation and can be accessed by various means like certain prayers, or beads or statues or art. God is IN creation.

The worldview of Protestants tends to be about the idea that God is outside creation, transcendent. And those baubles that Catholics love so much are just superstitions.
Andrew Greely wrote a book about this, and the idea is not original with him.

So perhaps the statement the Apple is Catholic and PCs are Protestant refer to the idea that Apple users tend live in a world that is integrated, where their devices can speak to each other and there are fewer barriers. It is a seamless world where the devices are part of their lives. Immenant.

And then PC people are view the world as being less integrated and their devices are more distinctly different. They don’t talk to each other and that their use is over and above the other stuff in life. Trancendent.

Just a thought. The OP reminded me of that series of ads Apple ran about I’m an Apple, or I’m a PC. I totally got them, and thought is was an awesome idea for an ad.
 
How can either be either since they are computer names and computer names don’t have thought and have soul etc

though I know what you are generally getting at. So what if Bill Gates is one and who ever did Apple is another.

what does it matter in that Catholic and protestant are all Christian. Though I know some of you guys worry about protestants far more than and I do not know what is Catholic Teachings so I won’t go into that discussion in case it against here since I don’t know what Catholics are officially taught.

The real worry if those who haven’t any faith at all and are of cults and then it not them as individual people because each one on their own God love all of us… it is the damage of the cult etc.

But really Apple is Catholic and PC is protestant. I am hoping that you are still at school? :eek:😛
 
I’m an artist, I live in metaphor land…

Could also mean that Apple is like Catholicism because they are both made to last, and are of the highest design and there is only one apple/ Catholic Church.

On the other hand, PCs are obsolete after two years, the computers are are often cheaply made, and there are lots of different manufacturers…

I’m really getting into this! I need a new project…
 
Neofight said:
Sounds like nonsense…however it is common knowledge that all Car makers worldwide are agnostic, and only one is Catholic…

Which one?

Fiat, of course!

Peace and all good!
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Wrong. Honda is the apostolic car of choice.

“And when the day of Pentecost came, they were all in one Accord…” (Acts 2:1)
 
vanessabyrne said:
Okay, so I read online that apparently apple is Catholic, while PC (windows I think) is Protestant. Is saying something like this actually true and valid, or just weird?
I mean, when I read it I thought that was kinda odd, and who actually came up with that idea, or how they did. Does that mean a Catholic can’t buy a PC and a Protestant cant own an iPhone?
People have been saying the Pope and Vatican use apple devices.
But people also said that apple apparently support gay marriage or something.
Is that a proper reason to not use apple? I mean, you can get a lot of Catholic apps on Apple devices (as I’m sure you can with PCs) I have a Divine Mercy app on my iPod touch (which I’m using now) and that app has really opened my eyes and thought me more about God’s Divine Mercy and Love.
So I don’t get the idea, or comparisons.
Is going against a company just for the company’s or people who work in that company’s beliefs proper, or is it being wrong and judgmental?
Or is the actual idea in all this is just loads of over thinking and kind of stupid?
I mean, a lot of Catholics own apple, and I’m sure a lot of Catholics own PCs. And the same with Protestants.
I don’t really understand it either.
I’m a scrupulous person so is this whole idea just scrupulous?
God Bless
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The comparison is nothing more than silliness that tries to make a point. Use which ever you like.

As for boycotting for reasons of corporate positions - There is absolutely nothing judgmental about avoiding companies that support positions we disagree with, but while I dislike apple intensely, I am not aware of anything they do that would make it immoral to buy their products. There certainly is enough annoying stuff, such as the removal of the Manhattan Declaration app, that avoiding them is reasonable, but I don’t think it’s strictly necessary. So again, do whatever you like.
 
It’s basically silly fanboy labelling.

Apple has devotees, while Windows has “choice”. Apple is all about control while Windows has more “freedom”.

Apple = Catholic because it’s strictly hierarchical (especially under Jobs), there is only 1 way to do anything and duplication is discouraged. There are only a few officially approved hardware choices and anything else is officially discouraged (on an individual level, albeit not enforced) or litigated against (if a company starts making Hackintoshes). Standardization is high and is enforced from top-down by Apple.

Windows = Protestant because it’s fragmented across all sorts of hardware. Standardization exists but is unenforced (remember “Made for Vista” computers that couldn’t actually run Vista?). Windows involves choice because you can put it with an almost limitless combination of elements (graphics, RAM, HD, monitors, etc).

They’re just trying to categorize people down into labels.

To the OP: You can use Mac or Windows or even Linux if you want.
 
If the original poster on the original board was serious, it was probably a metaphor.
Deltadeliquent said:
I’m an artist, I live in metaphor land…

Could also mean that Apple is like Catholicism because they are both made to last, and are of the highest design and there is only one apple/ Catholic Church.
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Yeah? I bet none of the programs I used a macintosh in mid 80’s would run on todays machines 🙂

(There are a few PC programs that I have from that time that I can still run, not that I would, there are much better ones available for the same thing now.)

Meanwhile, I think this says everything that needs to be said about the comparison between Mac’s and PCs:
xkcd.com/934/

Tom A.
Who praises and thanks God for modern technology.
 
Thanks for all the replies.
It’s silly, I know. Actually, when I first came across it, part of me was thinking “Don’t worry about it, they’re just comparisons someone made up and people’s ideas. Use either.” but to contradict that thought, I had another one thinking “or maybe thinking like that is bad and it’s a trick or temptation”
But to worry about that is probably stupid. So even if these things about apple are apparently true ie. Donated money to gay organisations, sued, etc. It still wouldn’t be immoral to actually use apple, or pc either? Would it be immoral to buy any of these in the future?
So does a company’s or people in that company’s thoughts, ideas, opinions, etc. make something immoral?
I know on the apple app store you can get a lot of Catholic apps. Really good and helpful ones too. (I suggest downloading “Divine Mercy” available in the app store. I think it’s made by the Marian brothers. They also have an app about Our Lady, Our Mother Mary. I think the app is called “Mary.” There’s a link in the Divine Mercy app.)
And you can also get Good Catholic apps on the android Market. As I’m sure you can with Windows.
If the Vatican apparently use Apple, that isn’t wrong is it?
And yes, I’ve noticed my scrupolousy/OCD before this. Kinda why I overthought this situation.
God Bless
 
Before I got through half of the post I wondered why you were putting so much thought into this question. This is, indeed, overscrupulosity, as the comment that was made was not a serious one. Do you think that fear of condemnation is a part of this tendency?

But as to the question of whether it is OK to patronize businesses that support immoral things, well, many believers do take issue with things like that to the point of boycotting certain products and businesses. We saw that from the opposite perspective when the LGBT community boycotted Chick-Fil-A for Dan Cathy’s statements. So, refusing to purchase certain products as a statement against a business is common.

I don’t know that it’s immoral, though, to use Apple products even though the company supports gay marriage. The reason is that you pay a business for a specific product or service. It’s not a donation. Apple provides goods to people (computers, phones, etc.) and is paid for doing so. That buy-sell transaction is the end of the relationship between Apple and the consumer. What Apple chooses to do as an independent entity beyond that is on Apple, not the consumer. But that still doesn’t mean people can’t decide to boycott them to send a message.
 
nicolakirwan said:
Before I got through half of the post I wondered why you were putting so much thought into this question. This is, indeed, overscrupulosity, as the comment that was made was not a serious one. Do you think that fear of condemnation is a part of this tendency?
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That’s probably one of the reasons why I have a lot of scrupulous worries
 
vanessabyrne said:
Okay, so I read online that apparently apple is Catholic, while PC (windows I think) is Protestant. Is saying something like this actually true and valid, or just weird?
I mean, when I read it I thought that was kinda odd, and who actually came up with that idea, or how they did. Does that mean a Catholic can’t buy a PC and a Protestant cant own an iPhone?
People have been saying the Pope and Vatican use apple devices.
But people also said that apple apparently support gay marriage or something.
Is that a proper reason to not use apple? I mean, you can get a lot of Catholic apps on Apple devices (as I’m sure you can with PCs) I have a Divine Mercy app on my iPod touch (which I’m using now) and that app has really opened my eyes and thought me more about God’s Divine Mercy and Love.
So I don’t get the idea, or comparisons.
Is going against a company just for the company’s or people who work in that company’s beliefs proper, or is it being wrong and judgmental?
Or is the actual idea in all this is just loads of over thinking and kind of stupid?
I mean, a lot of Catholics own apple, and I’m sure a lot of Catholics own PCs. And the same with Protestants.
I don’t really understand it either.
I’m a scrupulous person so is this whole idea just scrupulous?
God Bless
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I’m not so sure about that,

Consider a small observation I noticed some time ago…the symbol for the Apple computers is an apple bitten off at one corner. Reminiscent of the forbidden fruit-plucked from the tree of knowledge.

If it had been from the tree of Life…perhaps the reference would stick.

Just a mangy dog observation. 🙂
 
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