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John337 said:
I am not saying that there are only 3 there are 3 named in the catholic bible but I know that there are more then 3 I just never heard of the names that I mentioned in the first thread.
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There are only three named in the Bible.

We do not, therefore, know the names of any other angels, obviously excluding Satan. I’m personally unfamiliar with any of the names you listed. I’ve heard of Uriel before, but that was only in the video game Diablo III to my knowledge, unless the name was also listed in the Book of Enoch, but it’s non-canonical for Roman Catholicism and most of Christianity. I started reading it recently just for fun, but I wouldn’t take any of the names from it too seriously.
 
Why did it take so long to figure out margarine really is worse for you than butter after saying the opposite?
 
O_Lumen said:
… and other fallen angels as well, since obtaining the demon’s name is a key component of exorcism.
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I guess, but I’m not an exorcist, so I personally do not know any names aside from the four in the Bible.
 
I think Elizium23 was referring to the “no point in speculating about it” comment. Nevertheless E’s reply was less than charitable.
 
John337 said:
Why are there so many different archangels?
I’ve heard of the three from the bible but I went online and I saw alot unheard of
Uriel
Chamuel
Raguel
Jeremiel
Jophiel
What is all these strange names? also saw Uriel as Nuriel .
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I know nothing about any angels except Gabriel, Raphael and Michael.

Notice however, that everyone of these names end in “el”. “El” is an ancient word for God or “of God”, Uri of El, Chamu of El, Ragu of El, Jeremi of El. Jophi of El, Gabri of El, Rapha of El, Micha of El.

I can’t answer the question as to why there are angels of any kind. That is one of the questions that will be answered in the hereafter. God is the only one who is qualified to answer that question.
 
HelenRose said:
I know nothing about any angels except Gabriel, Raphael and Michael.

Notice however, that everyone of these names end in “el”. “El” is an ancient word for God or “of God”, Uri of El, Chamu of El, Ragu of El, Jeremi of El. Jophi of El, Gabri of El, Rapha of El, Micha of El.

I can’t answer the question as to why there are angels of any kind. That is one of the questions that will be answered in the hereafter. God is the only one who is qualified to answer that question.
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Interesting observation that the names end in “el”. I never noticed that
before.
 
7_Sorrows said:
Interesting observation that the names end in “el”. I never noticed that
before.
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Yep. Raphael means “God has healed,” Gabriel means “God’s able-bodied one” or “God is my strength,” and Michael means “Who is like God?” Rhetorically speaking, that last one means that no one is able to match or surpass God, hence Michael’s place in casting Satan from Heaven. It’s a statement against pride.

Google tells me Uriel means “God is my light,” Chamuel means “he who sees God” or “he who seeks God,” Raguel means “friend of God,” Jeremiel means “God’s mercy” or “God uplifts,” and Jophiel means “beauty of God.”

Related, Samuel can either mean “name of God” (not like the Name of God, but a reference to it) or “heard by God.”
 
Kurisu35712 said:
Yep. Raphael means “God has healed,” Gabriel means “God’s able-bodied one” or “God is my strength,” and Michael means “Who is like God?” Rhetorically speaking, that last one means that no one is able to match or surpass God, hence Michael’s place in casting Satan from Heaven. It’s a statement against pride.

Google tells me Uriel means “God is my light,” Chamuel means “he who sees God” or “he who seeks God,” Raguel means “friend of God,” Jeremiel means “God’s mercy” or “God uplifts,” and Jophiel means “beauty of God.”

Related, Samuel can either mean “name of God” (not like the Name of God, but a reference to it) or “heard by God.”
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Cool! 👍 Thanks for those translations!
 
Kurisu35712 said:
Rhetorically speaking, that last one means that no one is able to match or surpass God, hence Michael’s place in casting Satan from Heaven.
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I understand that the angelic names are related to the task they were assigned at the moment of their creation. In fact, one of their “tests” was to either reject this task, or else to accept it. This is why, in the case of fallen angels, acquiring knowledge of their name is so important: the name equals their purpose in being created which, in the case of demons, equals what they rejected. This rejection, therefore, is their biggest sin, the one that led to their fall, and the one which is their biggest weakness. Knowing their weakness is the means through which the torture that is exorcism is effective.

Another interesting tidbit in all of this is that a person’s guardian angel was actually assigned that role when they were created. This means that the reason they didn’t fall was because they accepted that task, and because of an act of charity for the person they were assigned to protect: all the more reason to be grateful to one’s guardian angel, and to develop a special relationship with him.
 
O_Lumen said:
I understand that the angelic names are related to the task they were assigned at the moment of their creation. In fact, one of their “tests” was to either reject this task, or else to accept it. This is why, in the case of fallen angels, acquiring knowledge of their name is so important: the name equals their purpose in being created which, in the case of demons, equals what they rejected. This rejection, therefore, is their biggest sin, the one that led to their fall, and the one which is their biggest weakness. Knowing their weakness is the means through which the torture that is exorcism is effective.

Another interesting tidbit in all of this is that a person’s guardian angel was actually assigned that role when they were created. This means that the reason they didn’t fall was because they accepted that task, and because of an act of charity for the person they were assigned to protect: all the more reason to be grateful to one’s guardian angel, and to develop a special relationship with him.
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I was reading about raphael on ewtn and I found that Raguel is the cousin of Tobias. As I said before though I’ve never heard of mainly the ones I mentioned but that is probably because they are used in witchcraft .
 
John337 said:
I was reading about raphael on ewtn and I found that Raguel is the cousin of Tobias.
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Yes, Raguel is a cousin of Tobias. But there is also an “angel” with the same name, as found in Second Enoch, I believe it is.

From EWTN:
Names like Uriel, Raguel, Sariel, and Jeremiel are not found in the canonical books of Sacred Scripture, but in the apocryphal book of Enoch, fourth book of Esdras,[1] and in rabbinical literature. The Church does not permit proper names of Angels that are not found in the canonical books of the Bible. All such names that were taken from apocryphal writings were rejected under Pope Zachary, in 745. There must have been danger of serious abuses in this regard during that century, because a similar step was taken in a synod held at Aix-la-Chapelle in 789.
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In fact, the above, as you’ll see if you go there, is from an online version of this book. If you read this book either on the EWTN website, or even in hardcopy format if you prefer, you’ll probably find out a lot more about some of the questions you’ve raised in this thread.
 
O_Lumen said:
Yes, Raguel is a cousin of Tobias. But there is also an “angel” with the same name, as found in Second Enoch, I believe it is.

From EWTN:

In fact, the above, as you’ll see if you go there, is from an online version of this book. If you read this book either on the EWTN website, or even in hardcopy format if you prefer, you’ll probably find out a lot more about some of the questions you’ve raised in this thread.
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OK I am going to read it but where are these books found in the bible or is it a book?
 
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