Archbishop of San Francisco: What would you change about him?

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I wasn’t sure where to post this. It’s clear that there are those who do not approve of the new Archbishop of San Francisco, Archbishop George Niederauer. From what I can tell, the main concern is that he’s too easy on homosexuality.

What would you like to hear him say or do that would change your opinion? Do you think Pope Benedict made a mistake in appointing Bishop Niederauer to San Francisco? Are there other issues that concern you about him?
 
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UtahMaggie:
I wasn’t sure where to post this. It’s clear that there are those who do not approve of the new Archbishop of San Francisco, Archbishop George Niederauer. From what I can tell, the main concern is that he’s too easy on homosexuality.

What would you like to hear him say or do that would change your opinion? Do you think Pope Benedict made a mistake in appointing Bishop Niederauer to San Francisco? Are there other issues that concern you about him?
Dear Maggie,

Yes, I guess I would have to say that my biggest concern is that he is too easy on homosexuality. For the bishop of all places SAN FRANCISCO to see that movie is kind of like giving his sheep a free pass to see an immoral movie. There may have been Catholics who would not have seen it but then after reading their bishop’s comments they’ve changed their minds. Its bad enough that he actually saw the movie. I really don’t think it was wise that he commented on the movie, that to me was somewhat of an endorsement. San Francisco is so far gone right now it needs a strong bishop to uphold the true Church teachings and lead the San Franciscans on the right path.

If the Legion of Decency was still around we would never hear about priests let alone bishops seeing movies like Brokeback Mountain and if they did they would be ashamed to admit that they had.

Things are so tame in Utah compared to California. It would be nice if the only thing a California Catholic needed to worry about was being converted by a Morman Missionary but the filth is so deep here we desperately need a few holy bishops that aren’t afraid of rocking the boat once in awhile to save some souls.

I will definitely pray for the Bishop of San Francisco.
 
If this Bishop is as bad as people make him out, then pray for the error of the one who appointed him…now who would that be?
 
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Troy7:
If this Bishop is as bad as people make him out, then pray for the error of the one who appointed him…now who would that be?
Oh let me answer…

That would be the guy that most of the ‘orthodox’ were tripping over themselves to praise when he was elected.
 
I think that we should all pray that the good Archbishop becomes Catholic.

Dominus vobiscum,

Loyola
 
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loyola38:
I think that we should all pray that the good Archbishop becomes Catholic.

Dominus vobiscum,

Loyola
He’s a successor of the apostles and a vicar of Christ…exactly how much more Catholic do you want him to be?
 
Where is the news article for this piece of news? Or wait, is it not a news topic?

Why don’t we just ask, what would you change about Jesus?

I have something. How about I would change the fact that the Archbishop is a sinful human being, as we all are.
 
If he’s as bad as everyone says, then there must be some sort of history behind him…which again, rests squarley on the shoulders of whomever was supposed to “discern” appointing him to a position in an area such as San Fransisco. If this Bishop had a questionable record then his appointer must be held even MORE accountable…if this Bishop was orthodox and turned “all of a sudden” then his appointer isnt accountable. Which is it?
 
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frommi:
He’s a successor of the apostles and a vicar of Christ…exactly how much more Catholic do you want him to be?
So was Nestorius, but there was room for him to become more Catholic as well. There always is, even in bishops.

This is not a comparison between His Grace and Nestorius, only a comment that membership in Episcopal Orders does not imply that one possess the fullness of Catholic teaching in word and deed.

There isn’t a person alive who could not become even more representative of the Church of Christ, including Popes and most certainly including myself.

So the prayer itself is not unwarranted.
 
I’m not going use the J word, but seriously, sometimes we get so caught up in our collective zeal that we become neo Scribes and Pharisees.

If you don’t like things, pray and don’t pay.
It’s very easy to detract someone on a message board.
 
What would I change? Nothing!
Who am I that I should second guess “the man in the saddle”, so to speak?
In time, all that anyone needs to know will be revealed. Fidelity has it’s own “high bar” as our new Abp likes to say. Until then he is in my prayers. His journey will not be easy.

Still, I would urge a bit more shrewdness [a precept of Prudence]. The new Abp advises adherence to Prudence commenting on the causes of Church scandals in his Chronicle interview. In his new assignment, he will especially need this virtue to exercise the fullness of discipleship.

With striking enthusiasm he shares his taste in movies including Seriana, Munich, Capote [his choice for Best Film] and Brokeback Mt., but he adds [voluntarily] he has not seen Chronicles of Narnia. Shrewdness, I think, suffers a bit with this comment. I have to wonder why he would include such a report [not Narnia], but I am glad my own words are not so widely had or so carefully parsed. Further, I confess, I am addicted to everthing C.S Lewis and cannot, honestly, tell you if remarkable authors wrote any of the other four the Abp mentions.

The Abp and I do not share a common taste in movies. Of the five films listed, I have seen [by choice] only Narnia. Still, I am not a “Man of Letters” as he is according to his introduction in the podcast and this may explain to a degree his movie preferences. It is predictable and he must know that the disorders presented in Brokeback Mt. will likely be elevated to “Best Picture of 2005”. But come on, this is California where voters do not think parents should be notified of their daughters choice for abortion.

His use of the word “powerful” has been overplayed in my opinion. He uses it with a degree of frequency that it becomes, in a sense, almost meaningless. Most of the four movies and several favored authors are described with this word. It’s a style of speech he likes and uses liberally, without theological intent I suspect. When style offends, the offender, if shrewd will know it without comment from me. {I taught public speaking for 15 years, so I probably am conditioned to look at language in sort of novel ways.]

Still, his dioceses will hear every public word [just as we have] and, in the service of their own agendas, without great care on the part of the Abp, these may be grossly misunderstood and misrepresented. What an age we live in where our words can be recorded and heard the same day around the world. This is the Abp’s reality. So great care [shrewdness] is required as he must surely know. This has been a recurring problem with the words of JPII for some, even Catholics, with aggressive “Catholic” agendas. JPII’s understanding of the power and the danger of words was unmatched in our own age as his legacy gives adequate testimony. Lets pray for a similar fate for our new Archbishop of San Francisco. He shares the call and, in a special way, will need the graces which inform fidelity.

Far to many of our Bishops see themselves as moderators of “focus groups” where every sort of disorder may go unchallenged in the name of inclusiveness. The renewal of a real understanding of the challenges of Catholic discipleship will, in time, help to resolve our current difficulties. I hope and pray I will live to see it.

God bless Benedict XVI…his journey will be even tougher.

Jim B
 
I am not so arrogant with sanctimony that I would presume that I can create the man better than God already has. Nor will I second guess the Holy Father.
 
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