Archbp. Kurtz (new President of USCCB) fully supports the Traditional Roman Rite

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This is great to hear. Now hopefully it will rub off a little.

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I second that. I love the EF Mass and am delighted that started up in my neighborhood.

I would love to see every Parish offer at least 1 EF Mass every Sunday.
 
Thank you Archbishop Kurtz. I assume you read this site and hope you encourage TLM at every US church. Lots of people, especially those in rural areas must drive a long way for mass.
 
Also churches that do offer TLM are often in seedy neighborhoods, or so it seems.🤷
 
ProVobis said:
Or at parishes which are/were on the verge of closing altogether.
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That is the case with St. Mary Oratory in Rockford, IL It is in a rather bad neighborhood and was on the verge of closing years ago, when the Institute of Christ the King took it over and started doing TLMs there.
 
LegoGE1947 said:
Also churches that do offer TLM are often in seedy neighborhoods, or so it seems.🤷
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That’s my personal experience, too.

I think its mostly because those parishes were too poor to be “wreckovated” in the 1970s, so they have all the traditional architecture that’s ideal for celebrating the Latin Mass.
 
Rich_C said:
That’s my personal experience, too.

I think its mostly because those parishes were too poor to be “wreckovated” in the 1970s, so they have all the traditional architecture that’s ideal for celebrating the Latin Mass.
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Makes sense to me. In our city Latin Mass is celebrated at this beautiful old church, St Mary Oratory, which is in a slum neighborhood, but the architecture is perfect for Latin Mass.
 
Archbishop Kurtz is first and foremost a pastor, who provides for the needs of the people in his archdiocese. :rolleyes:
 
LegoGE1947 said:
Makes sense to me. In our city Latin Mass is celebrated at this beautiful old church, St Mary Oratory, which is in a slum neighborhood, but the architecture is perfect for Latin Mass.
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Oh, LegoFE1947–

A slum neighborhood?!

Our beloved city leaders would call this the “downtown” area, and have nothing but good things to say about it!

There are plenty of OF churches in Rockford that are in less-than-affluent neighborhoods. Think about it . The “wealthier” parishes in the “nice” neighborhoods are built with a modern architecture that would be somewhat difficult for the TLM.

Also, the rich can drive and can easily get to the Oratory for the Latin Mass. But the poor can’t always spare the gas money for church. So it’s a blessing for them that the oratory is in their neighborhood.

So I say, let the rich travel to the “slum” and their presence and money will help the “slum” to rise up and become a “nicer” neighborhood… If the rich parishes start offering the Latin Mass, the rich people will stay safe and cozy in their “nice” parishes, and the parish in the “slum” will have to shut down for lack of money. That’s a losing situation for everyone.
 
LegoGE1947 said:
Makes sense to me. In our city Latin Mass is celebrated at this beautiful old church, St Mary Oratory, which is in a slum neighborhood, but the architecture is perfect for Latin Mass.
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If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t it a prison at one time? Or was the bishop threatening to turn it into one?
 
Cat said:
Oh, LegoFE1947–

A slum neighborhood?!

Our beloved city leaders would call this the “downtown” area, and have nothing but good things to say about it!

There are plenty of OF churches in Rockford that are in less-than-affluent neighborhoods. Think about it . The “wealthier” parishes in the “nice” neighborhoods are built with a modern architecture that would be somewhat difficult for the TLM.

Also, the rich can drive and can easily get to the Oratory for the Latin Mass. But the poor can’t always spare the gas money for church. So it’s a blessing for them that the oratory is in their neighborhood.

So I say, let the rich travel to the “slum” and their presence and money will help the “slum” to rise up and become a “nicer” neighborhood… If the rich parishes start offering the Latin Mass, the rich people will stay safe and cozy in their “nice” parishes, and the parish in the “slum” will have to shut down for lack of money. That’s a losing situation for everyone.
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Interesting. Anglicans also have a tradition of establishing liturgically very “high church” parishes in the slums. People often make fun of this approach, but I think it’s a noble heritage. In the Diocese of Northern Indiana, I understand that our parish in East Chicago is still an example of this.
 
ProVobis said:
If I’m not mistaken, wasn’t it a prison at one time? Or was the bishop threatening to turn it into one?
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Actually the county jail is just across the street from it. The public safety building is also a neighbor. St Mary’s was damaged by a fire a few years ago,but some people restored it and The Institute Of Christ the King took charge of it and turned it into an oratory and they have Latin Masses there. I think it was years ago a parish church but it isn’t now.🤷
 
Cat said:
Oh, LegoFE1947–

A slum neighborhood?!

Our beloved city leaders would call this the “downtown” area, and have nothing but good things to say about it!

There are plenty of OF churches in Rockford that are in less-than-affluent neighborhoods. Think about it . The “wealthier” parishes in the “nice” neighborhoods are built with a modern architecture that would be somewhat difficult for the TLM.

Also, the rich can drive and can easily get to the Oratory for the Latin Mass. But the poor can’t always spare the gas money for church. So it’s a blessing for them that the oratory is in their neighborhood.

So I say, let the rich travel to the “slum” and their presence and money will help the “slum” to rise up and become a “nicer” neighborhood… If the rich parishes start offering the Latin Mass, the rich people will stay safe and cozy in their “nice” parishes, and the parish in the “slum” will have to shut down for lack of money. That’s a losing situation for everyone.
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I’m sorry. I forgot about the beloved city leaders who seem to like ignoring the sad truth about our downtown area. On a favorite website I saw this quote “You can ignore reality, but you cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality!”
 
I love following Archbishop Kurtz news. He married my wife and I nearly 25 years ago in the town of Catasauqua PA when he was monsignor at St. Mary’s Church. (Lehigh Valley area).

He was a wonderful man then, who brought both my wife and I back to the Church in a fantastic way during our marriage prep. I would so love to meet up with him again at some point and express my sincere thankfulness to him for all he had done for us all those years ago. A truly wonderful and holy man indeed.
 
I’m so glad to see an Archbp come out in favor of the Traditional Latin Mass.

The Extraordinary Rite is alive and well in West Texas! Fr. Mark Woodruff at St. Elizabeth Ann Seton in Odessa celebrates the Latin Mass on the 4th Sunday of the month at 2 PM. He also celebrates every Tue morning at 6:30.

This Sunday he will celebrate the Mass for November. The Mass will be preceded by a $10 a plate lunch provided by West Texas Filipinos, with proceeds going to the relief effort in the Philippines.

Fr. Mark will also celebrate on Dec. 8th for the Feast of the Immaculate Conception and on the 22nd.
 
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