Archdiocese reviewing Catholic network's alleged role in providing abortions (CNA)

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Boston, Mass., Jun 9, 2009 / 06:21 am (CNA).- Further information about the Celticare medical program created in a Catholic health care network’s partnership with a secular company has renewed charges that the Catholic network will be complicit in the provision of abortions. The Archdiocese of Boston told CNA it is reviewing the matter.
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Does the bible mention abortions? Probably not as abortions didn’t exist back then.
I personnaly don’t have an issue with it. Then again i’ve never been pregnant…😃
 
Thou shall not Kill! It cannot be stated any more clearly. It is my personal belief that life begin at conception, and that that small being has as much right to life as anybody.

Anybody who “does not have a problem” with the taking of an innocent human life cannot be called a Christian and absolutely cannot be called a Catholic. If anybody has a problems with this, too bad. It is way past time for some very serious and deep self examination. This issue is the single most important human rights and social issue of our time, or any other time for that matter. A people that allows the murder of its unborn is a doomed society, and righfully so. And if the Archdiocese of Boston knows about this and the Catholic Church in Boston is supporting this, then may God Damn Them All.

NOT JUST STRONG…CATHOLIC STRONG!!!
 
I see that you list yourself as a Christian. I assume that, as all Christians do, you believe in the Trinity is not in the Bible. This is one of the reason that the Bible alone is not enough. You also need to oral Traditions handed down through the Church.

What the Bible does Killing. To call yourself a Christian and not take a stance against abortion is ludicrous. In the same way, to vote for someone who advocates the killing of the most innocent form of human life is participating in that evil.

Please do not think that I am accusing you of voting that way. I don’t know who you voted for or if you even voted. I just wanted to include this for anyone it does pertain to.
 
I see that you list yourself as a Christian. I assume that, as all Christians do, you believe in the Trinity is not in the Bible. This is one of the reason that the Bible alone is not enough. You also need to oral Traditions handed down through the Church.

What the Bible does Killing. To call yourself a Christian and not take a stance against abortion is ludicrous. In the same way, to vote for someone who advocates the killing of the most innocent form of human life is participating in that evil.

Please do not think that I am accusing you of voting that way. I don’t know who you voted for or if you even voted. I just wanted to include this for anyone it does pertain to.
I don’t take it personnally, and I didn’t vote. I didn’t even know you could vote for this. And I wouldn’t.
But seriously, you really think that I cannot be a real christain if I say it doesn’t bother me?
Well the thing is, I can’t stop the whole world from making abortions and I can’t stop the world from over breeding! So because I cannot do anything, there fore why should I say anything? What right do I have to give an opinion on somehting that I haven’t done my self?
I say life is very, very precious but people are killing there own babies… What can I do?🤷 Nothing… it does sadden me but I can’t do anything about it. I am powerless. I will not judge those who abort there own babies. But I will not encourage it either.
I don’t know what to say, but I don’t want to feel hate or grudges towards them who destroy Gods children. I just only hope that they see sense and be sensilbe.
 
Please, let’s get back to discussing the topic of the thread instead of each other. Thanks.
 
Boston, Mass., Jun 9, 2009 / 06:21 am (CNA).- Further information about the Celticare medical program created in a Catholic health care network’s partnership with a secular company has renewed charges that the Catholic network will be complicit in the provision of abortions. The Archdiocese of Boston told CNA it is reviewing the matter.
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Boston archdiocese has been “reviewing” this issue for several months now. In some instances, there should be no grey areas and this is one of them. It should be plain as the nose on their faces, the archdocese should distance themselves from Caritas until the organization can prove it will not do, nor refer clients to abortion clinics, or other hospitals providing abortions. Or ANYONE.
 
Just hoping that this whole aissue could end up being one of good victory for prolife !

Those who come to the Catholic hospitals asking for these ’ services ’ could be given intense , even residential ( such as two / three day , retreat style ) and graphic education on the ill effects of such choices , instead of a straight out referral .

Those in the healthcare field such as in training programs where persons are expected to prescribe pills etc already use a small version of same , such as telling the recipient how pills used as contraceptives ( and fornication too ) is a grave threat to their heath at all levels and that if that alone ( unlike for regulation of periods ,prevent cramps etc - not very great indications most of the time ) is the intent , hope it would be thrown away .

The only referral the hospitals would make even after such would be to life supporting pregnancy centers .

If such a program can show good results in helping the parents and the babies, it can be a very good victory for them and The Church as well as the prolife cause .

Meanwhile , the diocese can atleast postpone all such decisions ’ pending develpoment of an effcective health program ’ to offer real help in such situations and hopefully enough lawyer help would be available, to argue for the diocese and the hospitals based primarily on health issues of its clients (plenty of data availabel to support same ) which in turn again could be the most educational and preventive aspect of this crisis !

This in turn could be one of the best ’ stimulus packages ’ for the whole economy , for here and for heaven !

Let us hope and may His mercy be with us !
 
Being as i’m not much upto date on this problem area and it appears to be going on in Boston or surrounding area all i can say it really does not surprise me. I mean look at what the Kennedys have gotten away with and i never ever remember one time the Church denouncing them or in TED Kennedys case excommunicate. I’m beginning to grasp what the great JohnPaul2 remarked on one time and that Satan had entered the Sanctuary and there may be a time in the near future that we may well have a much smaller Catholic Church. I take that to mean that many will fall away from true teaching.Just as whether a person does not believe in Abortion but in there heart are willing to tolerate it they have become in a way part of it or implicit.I honestly beleive the Great Chastisement is at the door.
 
Why would this relationship be reviewed when this Insurance Company offers abortion(murder). Nothing to think about…just disconnect!!!
 
Cardinal O’Malley is on record as saying “I have the responsibility to insure that Caritas Christi Health Care adheres to the Ethical and Religious Directives established by the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops and that in every aspect of the hospital system the teachings of the Church are protected and maintained”.

The key clauses in that USCCB directive would be:

#69. If a Catholic health care organization is considering entering into an arrangement with another organization that may be involved in activities judged morally wrong by the Church, participation in such activities, must be limited to what is in accord with the moral principles governing cooperation.

#70. Catholic health care organizations are not permitted to engage in immediate material cooperation in actions that are intrinsically immoral, such as abortion, euthanasia, assisted suicide, and direct sterilization.

#71. The possibility of scandal must be considered when applying the principles governing cooperation.45 Cooperation, which in all other respects is morally licit, may need to be refused because of the scandal that might be caused. Scandal can sometimes be avoided by an appropriate explanation of what is in fact being done at the health care facility under Catholic auspices. The diocesan bishop has final responsibility for assessing and addressing issues of scandal, considering not only the circumstances in his local diocese but also the regional and national implications of his decision.

We note in clause 70 that health care organizations are not permitted to engage in immediate material cooperation in actions that are intrinsically immoral. Would the partnership then entail “immediate material cooperation”? If the “evil” is limited to referral or indirect referral of patients to morally objectionable health services, then that would more likely be “mediate material cooperation” of a remote nature, which is not necessarily illicit by definition. It must be made clear that Caritas would not stand to profit from morally objectionable services done by other parties, and must not be made to participate or formally cooperate in these services in any way. While assessing the possibility of scandal we note in clause 71 that “The diocesan bishop has final responsibility for assessing and addressing issues of scandal” (in this case, Cardinal O’Malley). Furthermore, when the possible effect of scandal is evaluated, it might be assessed against the double-effect principle or proportionate reasons, as it takes into consideration the 47 million poor and uninsured people in the country, part of which are targeted to benefit from the partnership.
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