Are abortion-derived vaccines obligatory (for salvation)? All opinions welcomed

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The issue is not whether the shot is good
Then why quote from a site that is apparently attacking the vaccine itself? It is a perfectly legitimate position to argue against a too-broad mandate for anything. For example, I personally believe that anyone who operates or rides on a motorcycle without a helmet is a fool (to put it mildly), but I am completely opposed to mandatory helmet laws.
 
This took place when abortions were illegal except in the case of maternal life making for the necessity to abort.
I read in one of Dr. Paul Offit’s books that one of them women was Swedish. Elective abortion in Sweden was legal in the 1960s, when her abortion was performed. In any case, you’re correct - they were legal abortions.
The cell lines from these two continue to be used for medical research beyond just vaccine development.
It’s more than two. New human diploid cell lines will be required for future vaccine development. Characteristics and viral propagation properties of a new human diploid cell line, walvax-2, and its suitability as a candidate cell substrate for vaccine production Nine dead fetuses were used for this research alone.
The researchers had tried using cell lines from placentas, mice kidneys and monkey kidneys. None of these work to develop virus cultures.
Don’t quote me on this until I can confirm it, but the Kitasato Institute in Japan was able to produce an ethically sourced MMR that the FDA won’t approve in the U.S.

Monovalent versions of the MMR vaccine used to be available and did not contain human diploid cells. But after Andrew Wakefield suggested the precaution of administering monovalent doses instead of a single, trivalent shot, (freaky fact - he actually wasn’t “anti-vax”), only the MMR was available.

In 2009, the CDC took the monovalent option away from health care consumers, and Catholics lost their ethically sourced alternative. MMR Single Dose Vaccines Questions | CDC
 
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but the Kitasato Institute in Japan was able to produce an ethically sourced MMR that the FDA won’t approve in the U.S.
If you come across a link for that, I would really appreciate it! Don’t go out of your way…I’m capable of research, too!😂
 
No citation on the institute but I did some further quicky lookie into why the FDA hasn’t approved the Japanese version. I don’t have an answer to it yet but I found some reasons why it may be taking its time. Our FDA is one of the most conservative approval agencies in the world. This is good and bad. In order to approve any new drug or vaccine they really want longer time studies than other organizations. This delays new drugs on the one hand and assures their safety much better on the other. I’ve worked with the FDA. They are frustrating and thorough.

After Japan introduced a new MMR, there were problems and they then switched to separate Measle, Mumps and Rubella. There was even a severe travel alert to any pregnant women traveling to japan due to measles risk.

Another item I need to research is if Merke has an exclusive contract with the US on providing the vaccine…it wouldn’t surprise me!

Thanks for giving me a starting point! ❤️
 
I would like to pose that the above summary still has some weak links that require further thought/exploration (and note this thought is a compilation of ideas and is no means an authoritative statement) and probably should contain less assertive language to be just to it. Nevertheless let’s explore distance/remoteness:
I would like to pose that your entire train of thought is based on what I’d like to call; the illusion of sin.
Allow me to explain.

You have a ditch digger, he throws a handful of dirt at a co workers face. He gets a punch in the noes.
To his boss he gets fired. To a passing cop he gets arrested. To the president in war time he can be put to death for treason.

While most of you reading this would agree that makes sense, it just a hand full of dirt. What marks the severity of the action is who it was done too and ultimately what that person represents. Throw that same handful of dirt at the president ten years prior and you are back to a punch in the face.

Now you can philosophically spin the use of dead tissue, organs, bodies any way you like but at the end of the day it really doesn’t matter. Your corporal form will degrade till what makes your dynamic system you no longer dynamic and you will cease to be whomever you are. Our respect for the dead is for our own social benefit the same way that throwing dirt in high ranking officials is bad for order.

God is perfectly happy and all powerful. He doesn’t care what condition your body is in ultimately. He can resurrect it on the last day however He likes. He is unmoved by the happenings of the universe as is the condition of his Godhood. There is nothing in this universe that harms or hurts Him in any capacity.

That said as the avatar of love and justice He has an interest in our well being.

Now you bring up the point that …
the body does not belong to the child - the body belongs now to the Earth and to God.
The earth belongs to the living as degreed by God. If you died and I really need your bones to live most people would grungingly allow if there was no other way.

In this case, we have a vaccine that was created with research that maybe we should never have allowed BUT like your death that shouldn’t have happened, we now have the bones to use to save other lives.

To not is to waste this resource and not attempt to bring some good out of tragedy.
Leave the dead to bury the dead, we have work to do.
 
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I’d like to cap my point off however that current vaccines use stem cells not necessarily those of the unborn. Someone donated them, we cultivated them and now we have a supply.

There are no aborted fetuses in the vaccine.
Take your medicine people before some black plague 2.0 kills us all.
 
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