Are all false prophets, 'intentional'?

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We know there are people with mental disorders in the world, we know there are people who have been led to believe what they believe, and we know there are people who lack the intellectual capacity to understand. Under these circumstances, are they false prophets we read about? How do we, as Christians, distinguish the difference between the unlearned, unstable, unwise and the ‘intentional’ false prophet? How should we respond to the differences we, feel we, recognize?

Remember, the Lord prayed for those who persecuted Him…
 
No, many are deluded into thinking they are doing the right thing! Look at most of our elected officials!

Look at the terrorists who strap a bomb to their bodies & murder innocent people in the name of Allah! They really believe they are doing the right thing

While we should initially try to discern if they are “unlearned, unstable, unwise and the ‘intentional’ false prophet”, **their intentions are irrelevant when it comes to false teachings.
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**They must be confronted & taught the Truth privately first, in a loving & caring manner by Witnessing to them the Truth of Jesus Christ. If they are unconvinced & persist, then they must be disproved publicly, in as loving manner as possible.
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Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro obis Peccatoribus!

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Nobody is an intentional false prophet. There’s a greater or lesser element of prelest (spiritual delusion) in all false prophecy.

I don’t think anyone (except possibly L. Ron Hubbard) wakes up in the morning and says, “I’ll come up with a long string of false prophecies and spiritually damning messages just for the hell of it to see who I can lead astray.”
 
Nobody is an intentional false prophet. There’s a greater or lesser element of prelest (spiritual delusion) in all false prophecy.

I don’t think anyone (except possibly L. Ron Hubbard) wakes up in the morning and says, “I’ll come up with a long string of false prophecies and spiritually damning messages just for the hell of it to see who I can lead astray.”
I don’t know if I agree with ‘nobody’ is an intentional false prophet. There seems to be people, throughout time, who prophesied for thier own ‘profit’. 🤷
 
We know there are people with mental disorders in the world, we know there are people who have been led to believe what they believe, and we know there are people who lack the intellectual capacity to understand. Under these circumstances, are they false prophets we read about? How do we, as Christians, distinguish the difference between the unlearned, unstable, unwise and the ‘intentional’ false prophet? How should we respond to the differences we, feel we, recognize?

Remember, the Lord prayed for those who persecuted Him…
Exactly how many christians would fit into the bolded category?😉
 
I recently did a blog post on one such false prophet who claimed to receive revelations from God via an angel. My conclusion was basically the same as how I feel about most false prophets: if they truly are being deceived by demonic forces, then I pray for their deliverance; if they are blatantly lying and know it, then I pray for their repentance. Are all false prophets intentional? Only God really knows the nature of their hearts, but either way they are still committing error, and while we love the erring there is no obligation to love the error.

Sometimes the followers are even more dangerous. I know people who think Benny Hinn is a true apostle and react violently in discussion if you suggest he might be heretical or acting against the word of God. Such people I truly pray for. As Christ said, His sheep know His voice and they follow him (John 10:3), and if they hear a stranger’s voice they do not follow but run (10:5) because they know any one else is a thief and robber (10:8).
 
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IMHO, few “false teachers” are insincere.

Of course, they can be sincerely wrong.

Your question raises the issue of accountability. As a Protestant, I embrace accountability - with no exceptions (including me!!!).

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Exactly how many christians would fit into the bolded category?😉
Depends on which Christians you’re referring to. Sadly, Catholics are not immune to this, as evident by the various apparitions over the centuries that have been denounced as false. The more devoted the soul, the less likely to be fooled by deception.
 
1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world

Also if what one prophesies goes against the word of God they are false. God can not go against His own word.
 
1 John 4:1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world

Also if what one prophesies goes against the word of God they are false. God can not go against His own word.
And if we have two different prophesies that conflict, due to interpretational differences?
 
We go by scripture and Holy Tradition.
Yes, I agree.

I was hoping our Protestant brother would tell us how to distinguish between two conflicting prophesies, due to interpretational differences. I saw his ‘joke’ about stoning them if a prophesy didn’t come true, but some prophesies seem to be in a ‘holding pattern’. In the meantime, which one is real and which one is not?
 
We know there are people with mental disorders in the world, we know there are people who have been led to believe what they believe, and we know there are people who lack the intellectual capacity to understand. Under these circumstances, are they false prophets we read about? How do we, as Christians, distinguish the difference between the unlearned, unstable, unwise and the ‘intentional’ false prophet? How should we respond to the differences we, feel we, recognize?

Remember, the Lord prayed for those who persecuted Him…
It’s a mixture. I think most false prophets are unintentional, in that they believe what they “prophesy”. But there are spiritual con-men. My old Protestant was a jail chaplain for some time, and one of his comments was that he wondered if there was salvation for con-men. He said they told so many lies so convincingly that he wondered if they could knew what the truth was themselves after a while. If you’ve lost the ability to distinguish truth from falsehood, there’s not much hope.

I myself was partly deceived for a short time. There’s a deception known as the ‘two witnesses’ deception. In chapter 11 of Revelation, there is mention of 2 witnesses. For the record, I believe they will be supernatural beings (angels, frankly) which will explain why men can’t hurt them and it takes an all-out brawl with the devil before they’re killed. In addition, no human could be trusted with the sorts of powers outlined there.

However a new Christian (especially Protestants, with their much greater interest in doomsday scenarios and lack of solid training, and without the eucharist to protect them), particularly someone who has low self-esteem, but who has also become aware through personal experience that there is a spiritual world out there, suddenly finds himself getting the “tingles” when he reads that passage. He next starts to think, are “you” (God or an angel) telling me that I’m one of the two prophets?

The “tingles” get stronger. When he tries to laugh it off, he gets this imperious sense of righteous anger. “Don’t doubt me! Who do you think you are to doubt God?”

Of course it’s the devil or a demon all along. For a short while, embarassingly, during my very early Christian walk, I got targetted for this myself. I went to see a few counsellors over this, and one of them commented, “I’m beginning to wonder what’s going on. You’re the sixth “Witness” I’ve seen in about a month!”.

Invariably this particular deception hits people with low self esteem (all that recognition and power is a tempting bait for someone who hasn’t received much affirmation all their life).

This particular deception very nearly wrecked a now quite well-known Creationism ministry in its early days, around about the same time I was getting singled out for the same treatment. I won’t go into that in any more detail, but it caused a lot of embarassment and immense difficulty for the bloke who was deceived.

So, “false prophets” are often misguided, for one reason or another. Sincerely misguided.
 
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