Are all that are baptised Christian?

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Are all that are baptised Christian? Can somebody call himself Christian if he does not follow Jesus Christ??? Please give me some verses from Cathecism and Bible explaining this thing. My brother things everybody who was baptized is Christian.But what about those who left the Church? Are they Christians even if they hate Jesus or God???

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Remember that “Christian” is not a term of approval.

Religious labels merely mean that a person is at least a nominal member of a given faith group.

A man might eat pork and not go to synagogue, but if he was circumcised as an 8 day old baby, then (unless he embraces another religion), he’s still Jewish.

Acts says that it was at Antioch that the disciples of Jesus were first called “Christians”, and it wasn’t intended as a term of honor, either.

Note that Acts does not say “the good disciples” or “those disciples who profited and followed Jesus’s teaching more than others”.

Baptism is the beginning of the Christian life. Theologians say that it imparts a mark or “character” on the soul. A person might bring this mark down with him into hell–but s/he is still a Christian.

As St. Augustine said, “So many sheep without, so many wolves within.”

People haven’t changed much, and I’m sure there were nominal followers even then.
 
sobino said:
Are all that are baptised Christian? Can somebody call himself Christian if he does not follow Jesus Christ??? Please give me some verses from Cathecism and Bible explaining this thing. My brother things everybody who was baptized is Christian.But what about those who left the Church? Are they Christians even if they hate Jesus or God???

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Yes all those Baptized in the Name of the Father, the Son and Holy Spirit are Christians. Not all Christians are members of the Christian Church which is the Catholic Church.

Anyone who is Baptized can call themselves a Christian even if they are not living a Christian lifestyle including those who have left the Church.

Baptism leaves a permanant mark on one’s soul and if they choose by their actions not to accepts Christ’s Salvation give us through His Church then from what I’ve learned is that they will suffer more terribly than others in Hell and Consecrated Priests will suffer even more terribly in Hell should they end up there by their actions.

We who are Baptized and therefore are Christians have a responsibility to get and stay on that narrow path which leds to eternal life in heaven.

Only those who believe *and are baptized *can be saved is what the Bible teaches in Luke 16:16. Although some Protestants take some verses out of context and ignore this one claiming that believing alone is sufficient without doing the “work” of getting Baptized. In John 6, Jesus is also clear that we need to receive the Holy Eucharist, saying that we don’t have “life” in us if we don’t eat His Body and Drink His Blood.
 
A non-christian that is baptized is nothing more than a wet non-christian
 
I give you an example what happened in my family. My brother´s colleague is baptized, but hates God and Jesus and Church.But my brother told him “What ever you do you will stay Christian for all your life.” And this atheist man was angry with my brother, cos´ he says he is not Christian and does not want to be a CHristian even if he is baptized. I do not know who was right: my brother or his atheistic colleague claiming his free will not to be a Christian?
 
A friend [Anglo] at work was a Buddhist. He told of a Christian [not sure of the denomination] who wanted to become a Buddhist. His guru told the man that he could become a Buddhist but he would also remain a Christian. When the man asked if the Christian brainwashing was so thorough that it couldn’t be reversed, the guru said that wasn’t it. He explained that Baptism implants a seed of truth in the recipient. No matter what he later does that seed of truth remains with him.

I think that a rather good explanation.
 
sobino said:
I give you an example what happened in my family. My brother´s colleague is baptized, but hates God and Jesus and Church.But my brother told him “What ever you do you will stay Christian for all your life.” And this atheist man was angry with my brother, cos´ he says he is not Christian and does not want to be a CHristian even if he is baptized. I do not know who was right: my brother or his atheistic colleague claiming his free will not to be a Christian?
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Baptism is the initiation to become a Christian and leaves a permanent mark on your soul. Once Baptized, there is *no way *to undo your Baptism regardless of how much you may want to.

Once a Christian, always a Christian. This is a true statement.
Once Saved, always Saved. This is a false statement.

Not all Christians are “saved” as you indicate above, any Christian is free to turn away from God and reject Him and His Church meaning any Christian can choose to not be “saved” at any time in his life.

All are called to Salvation, but not all continue to choose to be saved. Up to death he or she can change their minds. That’s what Confession is for, so that people can choose to turn back to God and be “saved” if they want.
 
SingleMomMonica said:
Baptism is the initiation to become a Christian and leaves a permanent mark on your soul. Once Baptized, there is *no way *to undo your Baptism regardless of how much you may want to.

Once a Christian, always a Christian. This is a true statement.
Once Saved, always Saved. This is a false statement.

Not all Christians are “saved” as you indicate above, any Christian is free to turn away from God and reject Him and His Church meaning any Christian can choose to not be “saved” at any time in his life.

All are called to Salvation, but not all continue to choose to be saved. Up to death he or she can change their minds. That’s what Confession is for, so that people can choose to turn back to God and be “saved” if they want.
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Is it possible that they were not christians to begin with. I thought baptism was a symbol that you died to yourself and now live for christ. If baptism is a requirement for salvation how did the thief on the cross get baptised. Thank You
 
Joe_Kelley said:
A friend [Anglo] at work was a Buddhist. He told of a Christian [not sure of the denomination] who wanted to become a Buddhist. His guru told the man that he could become a Buddhist but he would also remain a Christian. When the man asked if the Christian brainwashing was so thorough that it couldn’t be reversed, the guru said that wasn’t it. He explained that Baptism implants a seed of truth in the recipient. No matter what he later does that seed of truth remains with him.

I think that a rather good explanation.
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Many budhist don’t consider themselves a religion but a philosophy
 
ppasa316 said:
Is it possible that they were not christians to begin with. I thought baptism was a symbol that you died to yourself and now live for christ. If baptism is a requirement for salvation how did the thief on the cross get baptised. Thank You
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For *catechumens *who die before their Baptism, their explicit desire to receive it, together with repentance for their sins, and charity, assures them the salvation that they were not able to receive through the sacrament.
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Catechism of the Catholic Church 1259. He expressed the desire.
 
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