Are Americans less-evolved?

[tjm190]

Ah… Now we’re getting to it… I should have known… Your whole culture is based on the forced displacement of a people… And this little chestnut let’s you extend your empire around the world without calling it an empire.

It’s a pernicious lie. Everyone should be able to profit from the land they live on, and the money generated used for the greater good.

That’s a nice ideology.

Then lobby against it. Tell people it’s wrong. America is a spent empire now anyway, nothing can stop The Far East being the next superpower now. Everything in the world is now manufactured there.

Do the right thing. Try to be part of the solution, not the problem.

Be a true Christian and practice some of the love you preach so readily.

So I could try to change the nature of the human race by telling everyone that the world would be a better place if they placed their self interest below what would be good for humanity? I’ll pass, but let me know how that works out for you.
And I’m not denying that China is rising, but it still has more then a few of its own problems to hammer out first.

 

[Moonstruck888]

That’s a nice ideology.

So I could try to change the nature of the human race by telling everyone that the world would be a better place if they placed their self interest below what would be good for humanity? I’ll pass, but let me know how that works out for you.

Not very well I’m afraid, however, I shall persevere for as long as I live…

 

[donsnow]

You don’t think people are afraid of the USA?

Well, maybe the Wahhabi, or Taliban or Hamas or Hezbollah might fear us…which well they should. However, I can’t believe that Scotland, nor any other member of the EU nor other countries are really afraid of us. That’s what my ‘Balderdash’ comment pertained to, other Christian nations.

Well, that’s a win win situation. I’ll stick with social justice and you can keep God…

Thank you.
BTW, I prefer the Holy Roman Catholic Church’s teaching on Social Justice, to yours. So, I get the best of both worlds, as it were.

Delightful irony from a man living in the only first world country in the last sixty years to run a concentration camp with detainies who were denied Habeas Corpus.

Weelllll…If you think alien POWs captured in battle or in other processes of actual attempts to destroy our nation and/or slay our citizens have any right to Habeas Corpus, you’re entitled to your opinion. I say alien POWs trying to destroy our system should consequently have no recourse to the benefits of the system they’re trying to destroy. Let 'em know what denial of rights is like, should they succeed in destroying us.

That’s very interesting. An event that would end the United States of America as a superpower, the trading of oil in currencies other than the dollar, wouldn’t be a problem for you?

Well, frankly, it’s been quite a problem to me, for the recent twenty years, watching the dismantling of the real America from the inside. Also, all superpowers that turn from God do fall as a consequence and the Almighty is no respecter of persons…nor of nations…as both secular history and anthropology show, beside the same lesson in the Holy Bible.

So, I must gird up my lions and still my grief for that which was, and endure the further destruction of my beloved America, for the worst is yet to come. Blessed be God Most High, the Holy Trinity. We deserve it and He is Just in His chastisements. But, I pray mercy for us who cling to His Son’s cross.

I can’t see a just God putting that in the plus column.

Of course not. Your atheist blinders keep you from seeing that. God is love. I love a lot, because of that, as well as from my own sinful heart.

I’m not even shocked.

Well, good, because my reference to an arsenal was a joke. I have no arsenal…gotcha

 

[donsnow]

She knows.

Let me rephrase. I only wish there actually were a hell for you and that other mindless thug to go to…

Okedoke, to both of your sentences.

Be careful, the Golden Rule is treat others the way you want to be treated. Or, do you disbelieve that, as well?

 

[donsnow]

Do you have any evidence for this?

Yes, ma’am,

Every news video and article of the American flag being burned in countries all over the world,
for starters. My opinions are generally well founded.

 

[Moonstruck888]

Well, maybe the Wahhabi, or Taliban or Hamas or Hezbollah might fear us…which well they should. However, I can’t believe that Scotland, nor any other member of the EU nor other countries are really afraid of us. That’s what my ‘Balderdash’ comment pertained to, other Christian nations.

Scotland, the UK, and most of Europe are very anti American, particularly France. The last time the UK refused to obey orders by not going into Vietnam, the US Government at the time created a run on the GBP that took Britain two decades to recover from.

If you think that other Christian Countries, like Chile, Argentina, Britain, France, Bolivia or Poland are immune to US bullying, then you have a very naive view of your SECULAR country’s foreign policy.

Thank you.
BTW, I prefer the Holy Roman Catholic Church’s teaching on Social Justice, to yours. So, I get the best of both worlds, as it were.

Do you indeed.

Weelllll…If you think alien POWs captured in battle or in other processes of actual attempts to destroy our nation and/or slay our citizens have any right to Habeas Corpus, you’re entitled to your opinion. I say alien POWs trying to destroy our system should consequently have no recourse to the benefits of the system they’re trying to destroy. Let 'em know what denial of rights is like, should they succeed in destroying us.

If they were POW’s then they should have been treated in accordance with the Geneva Convention. If they were common criminals, then they should have been put on trial.

Of course not. Your atheist blinders keep you from seeing that. God is love. I love a lot, because of that, as well as from my own sinful heart.

Why would God love a rampaging rogue state that is more dangerous by far than every other rogue state combined?

We need Jesus back here now, to whip all the congressmen and senators to the gates of the temple.

Well, good, because my reference to an arsenal was a joke. I have no arsenal…gotcha

Well, that’s something at least. I’m glad to hear you’re not some gun toting maniac.

 

[Moonstruck888]

Be careful, the Golden Rule is treat others the way you want to be treated. Or, do you disbelieve that, as well?

By and large, but sadly, an eye for an eye is the only language some people understand. Do you believe in treating others as you would be treated? If so, why do you support US foreign policy?

 

[Moonstruck888]

Yes, ma’am,

Every news video and article of the American flag being burned in countries all over the world,
for starters. My opinions are generally well founded.

That tends to be driven by fear and anger at injustice, not envy.

 

[tjm190]

The last time the UK refused to obey orders by not going into Vietnam, the US Government at the time created a run on the GBP that took Britain two decades to recover from.

An interesting claim, although it would seem difficult to back up since Britain had a fixed exchange rate against the dollar at that time and the UK didn’t experience a decline in real GDP until the very end of the war, which it quickly pulled out of.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

Never forget that behind every save-the-planet cry, there is, without exception, an anti-life, anti-Christian, pro-state pagan ideal.

Despite the loud-mouthed, angry and resentful pagans who cast the USA as a force for evil, we are (or used to be, up until the last election) the good guys.

Now? We seem to be just another modern pagan state. Lord have mercy.

 

[Moonstruck888]

Never forget that behind every save-the-planet cry, there is, without exception, an anti-life, anti-Christian, pro-state pagan ideal.

Despite the loud-mouthed, angry and resentful pagans who cast the USA as a force for evil, we are (or used to be, up until the last election) the good guys.

Now? We seem to be just another modern pagan state. Lord have mercy.

You are, and have been since 1792, the only capitalist state to ban religion from matters of state. Your constitution establishes and affirms that you are a secular state, with everyone free to his or her own religion, a pagan state if you will…

As far as being evil is concerned, that is very much a matter of your point of view. A state that can gleefully napalm empoverished villages with non combatants including children but come down hard on Jane Fonda for being a dangerous rebel has it’s priorities rooted firmly up it’s derrier in my opinion.

Question: How come the religious right in America have no qualms about murdering people after their born?

Another Question: How many fetuses do you think might have been aborted by the ill fated invasion of Iraq?

 

[Moonstruck888]

An interesting claim, although it would seem difficult to back up since Britain had a fixed exchange rate against the dollar at that time and the UK didn’t experience a decline in real GDP until the very end of the war, which it quickly pulled out of.

I’m old enough to remember the last run on the pound. Whether it was orchestrated because of Harold Wilson’s refusal to enter Vietnam or for other reasons, the results were appalling, putting millions into poverty over here.

All in the spirit of the sickening, depressing and demeaning “special relationship” between the UK and the USA.

 

[Sailor_Kenshin]

You are, and have been since 1792, the only capitalist state to ban religion from matters of state. Your constitution establishes and affirms that you are a secular state, with everyone free to his or her own religion, a pagan state if you will…

As far as being evil is concerned, that is very much a matter of your point of view. A state that can gleefully napalm empoverished villages with non combatants including children but come down hard on Jane Fonda for being a dangerous rebel has it’s priorities rooted firmly up it’s derrier in my opinion.

Question: How come the religious right in America have no qualms about murdering people after their born?

Another Question: How many fetuses do you think might have been aborted by the ill fated invasion of Iraq?

Untruths will get you nowhere. And you have very nicely calibrated yourself in all your replies.

For one, you got the Church/State question utterly wrong. The USA Constitution-- OUR Constitution, not yours— USED to protect the Church from the State. Not the other way round.

Maybe you should read it before commenting about it.

As for the rest of your standard-issue leftwing talking points, they are not even worth attempting to address.

But I have to ask, if you believe we are just meat that goes in the ground after death, why do you wish to live?

I’ll still be praying for you.

 

[tjm190]

I’m old enough to remember the last run on the pound. Whether it was orchestrated because of Harold Wilson’s refusal to enter Vietnam or for other reasons, the results were appalling, putting millions into poverty over here.

All in the spirit of the sickening, depressing and demeaning “special relationship” between the UK and the USA.

Putting millions in to poverty without hurting real GDP? Wow, add ‘economic impossibilities’ to America’s bag of tricks. The only recession the UK endured during the entire 20 year period that made up the Vietnam war (I’m including the pre-America years) was the one that the entire west experienced in the early 70’s (the oil crisis)

 

[IrishCanuck]

Moonstruck888

I’m wondering what do you think America(ns) should do to improve and make the world a better place?

 

[donsnow]

Scotland, the UK, and most of Europe are very anti American, particularly France. The last time the UK refused to obey orders by not going into Vietnam, the US Government at the time created a run on the GBP that took Britain two decades to recover from.

Well, Moonstruck, you were discussing those afraid of us, now you’re bringing up those who are against us. These are two different subjects, in my mind.

If you think that other Christian Countries, like Chile, Argentina, Britain, France, Bolivia or Poland are immune to US bullying, then you have a very naive view of your SECULAR country’s foreign policy.

I think I see a labeling of ordinary negotiations as ‘bullying’.

Do you indeed.

Yes, indeed.

If they were POW’s then they should have been treated in accordance with the Geneva Convention. If they were common criminals, then they should have been put on trial.

They’re POWs and they’re accorded the conditions required by the Geneva Convention.

Why would God love a rampaging rogue state that is more dangerous by far than every other rogue state combined?

Because God is love and we feed a lot of other countries.

We need Jesus back here now, to whip all the congressmen and senators to the gates of the temple.

Oh, I’m sure that in good time, he’ll be along not only to do that very thing but also to protect Jerusalem and chastise all the world’s citizens who’ve mocked Him and His Heavenly Father.

Well, that’s something at least. I’m glad to hear you’re not some gun toting maniac.

Just as the ‘pen is mightier than the sword’, so also we can live ‘not by power nor by might but by the Spirit of the Living God’ as individuals.

Look, I know you have an ax to grind. But, why don’t you start your own hate thread, if you’re not going to discuss the OP, here?

 

[donsnow]

By and large, but sadly, an eye for an eye is the only language some people understand. Do you believe in treating others as you would be treated? If so, why do you support US foreign policy?

Yes, I try to treat others as I would be treated.

America’s foreign policy is formed 'way “above my pay grade”. You can, however, rest assured that I don’t support this present administration.

 

[PJM]

=Leela;6628498]Yeah, but the pope wants people to procreate specifically in Europe more than they are already doing. Why is that?

I read the projected time table for Muslims to largley outnumber Europeans. It’s not that far in the future.

What this means is that the Muslims will be able to take over a county without a war; by sheer numbers. This leeads to a signifiant defeat for all Christians, as well as having other ramifications.

Leela, how is that you term Benedict XVI “poor”? In what way?

Love and prayers,
Pat

 

[donsnow]

That tends to be driven by fear and anger at injustice, not envy.

In the first place, that post of mine was in a discussion with other than you.

In the second place, you’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine.

Finally, I really seriously doubt that very many countries fear us. The Christian nations have no reason to fear us. Nor, do most Muslim or other non-Christian nations have any real reason to fear us.

 

[Moonstruck888]

In the first place, that post of mine was in a discussion with other than you.

So? It’s a discussion forum, and within the spirit of the rules for me to reply to any post.

In the second place, you’re entitled to your opinion and I’m entitled to mine.

We’re all entitled to our own opinions, but not our own facts.

Finally, I really seriously doubt that very many countries fear us.

Then you’re incorrect.

The Christian nations have no reason to fear us. Nor, do most Muslim or other non-Christian nations have any real reason to fear us.

zompist.com/latam.html

Hell, US citizens have reason to fear the USA. In Michigan alone there are 1.5 million homeless people out of a ten million population. That’s equivalent to 9 million people being homeless in the UK. There would be a revolution if it ever got that bad here…

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Ewen_Cameron