Are Anglicans protestants?

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GKC said:
For the reading at Mass, so do we.

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Are you anglo-cathoic GKC? Or does your church call themselves something different?

In my post I should have said we USED meaning when I WAS in the episcopal church. I am Catholic now so I should include with them rather than the episcopalians.

I believe the orthodox Bible has more books than the Catholic Bible.
 
KjetilK said:
Originally Posted by mustrdseedfaith
Protestantism isn’t an empty term simply because there is spectrum of beliefs under one umbrella. Protestantism means that you adhere to the Christian faith without being part of the Catholic Church. It really isn’t intended to define doctrine any more than that.
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Like us (and like the ACoE and the PNCC) Orthodox are just catholic, not catholic and protestant (“Catholic and Protestant” some would say, but I won’t dignify them with a response ;)) like you Lutherans.
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7_Sorrows said:
Are you anglo-cathoic GKC? Or does your church call themselves something different?

In my post I should have said we USED meaning when I WAS in the episcopal church. I am Catholic now so I should include with them rather than the episcopalians.

I believe the orthodox Bible has more books than the Catholic Bible.
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Yes, I’m an Anglo-Catholic, in the original sense of a flavor of Anglicanism. My parish calls itself the Anglican Church of the Epiphany, since Epiphany is its Feast Day.

Yes, I think the Orthodox do have a plenitude of Scripture.

GKC
 
GKC said:
Yes, I’m an Anglo-Catholic, in the original sense of a flavor of Anglicanism. My parish calls itself the Anglican Church of the Epiphany, since Epiphany is its Feast Day.

Yes, I think the Orthodox do have a plenitude of Scripture.

GKC
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Okay thank you. I notice you don’t have anything for religion in the upper right corner.

(I wish we became forum elders at 10, 000 posts instead of 15, 000 don’t you?)
 
7_Sorrows said:
Okay thank you. I notice you don’t have anything for religion in the upper right corner.

(I wish we became forum elders at 10, 000 posts instead of 15, 000 don’t you?)
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Yes, I was greatly disappointed when I passed 10,000 and didn’t get that impressive bold typeface on my name.

GKC
 
GKC said:
Yes, I was greatly disappointed when I passed 10,000 and didn’t get that impressive bold typeface on my name.

GKC
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Me too. I was almost there now I realize I have 5, 000 + posts to go yet!
Maybe by the next election I will be there.

I miss a lot of people who aren’t around anymore since I joined in 2008.
 
phil19034 said:
Yes, but I am/was under the impression that the Anglican Communion considers those Books to be Apocrypha, not Canonical???

biblestudymagazine.com/interactive/canon/#
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I guess I thought they were important and considered canonical because I always made sure my Bible had them. I can’t answer for other episcopalians or anglicans. I don’t know if lutherans use a bible with or without the extra books. A majority of protestants don’t even know about the other books. And don’t care.
 
7_Sorrows said:
I guess I thought they were important and considered canonical because I always made sure my Bible had them. I can’t answer for other episcopalians or anglicans. I don’t know if lutherans use a bible with or without the extra books. A majority of protestants don’t even know about the other books. And don’t care.
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Its always been my understanding that Anglicans considered them non-canonical but must be included in the Bible.
 
commenter said:
You are correct. As a typical American, I have heard there are other countries, but I had always thought those reports were apocryphal.
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😛

I met one American chap who, when he got a passport, was asked by his family, friends, and neighbours why he would do such a thing. They believed in the existence of other places, but not in their value.
 
phil19034 said:
Another major identifying mark of what defines a “Protestant” is which Books and Chapters make up the OT.

The Protestants removed books from the OT, which the Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and Assyrian Church of the East all hold as Inspired.
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Could it also be said that Catholics “removed” books the Orthodox consider canon?

From a Lutheran perspective, the canon isn’t exactly “defined”, though it can be said that certain books perhaps hold more “weight” than others.

Jon
 
JonNC said:
Could it also be said that Catholics “removed” books the Orthodox consider canon?

From a Lutheran perspective, the canon isn’t exactly “defined”, though it can be said that certain books perhaps hold more “weight” than others.

Jon
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Is there a particular bible the lutherans use or prayerbook?
 
phil19034 said:
Its always been my understanding that Anglicans considered them non-canonical but must be included in the Bible.
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They pop up in the liturgy very rarely; I’ve been attending services for 3 years now, and have missed perhaps 3 Sundays in all that time, and have only heard one or two readings from those books. Before that I was under the impression that the books were viewed as inspired enough for private study, but not quite inspired enough for liturgical use. Perhaps that use of Tobit was for a special occasion…
 
Potter said:
They pop up in the liturgy very rarely; I’ve been attending services for 3 years now, and have missed perhaps 3 Sundays in all that time, and have only heard one or two readings from those books. Before that I was under the impression that the books were viewed as inspired enough for private study, but not quite inspired enough for liturgical use. Perhaps that use of Tobit was for a special occasion…
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The same can be said for the Catholic church. Very rarely are any of the books used for liturgical use. More for private study.
 
7_Sorrows said:
Is there a particular bible the lutherans use or prayerbook?
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No. I think certain synods are inclined to have preferences, however. The LCMS uses the ESV, both in the lectionary and and in publications, including its publication of the “Apocrypha: The Lutheran Edition with Notes”.

There are some Lutheran prayer books, as well, including “Martin Luther’s Little Prayer Book”.

Jon
 
The anglicans have generally considered themselves to be solidly protestant , they begged William orange to come to the throne and save it from the catholics, welcomed their country to migrant Protestant french Huguenots to snub catholic France… There was the period called the oxford movement which tried to put some substance into Anglicanism but a lot of there leaders converted anyway. I’m aware of the anglo catholics but I think people here vastly overstate the size and Catholicness of these groups. A lot of them are basically high church protestants, big on ritual, aesthetics, and hierarchy,but no different from a lot of Lutherans or other state run protestant churches. Rowan, a self described anglo catholic, supported female bishops and he wasn’t some outlier from these groups.
 
boar2roar said:
The anglicans have generally considered themselves to be solidly protestant , they begged William orange to come to the throne and save it from the catholics, welcomed their country to migrant Protestant french Huguenots to snub catholic France… There was the period called the oxford movement which tried to put some substance into Anglicanism but a lot of there leaders converted anyway. I’m aware of the anglo catholics but I think people here vastly overstate the size and Catholicness of these groups. A lot of them are basically high church protestants, big on ritual, aesthetics, and hierarchy,but no different from a lot of Lutherans or other state run protestant churches. Rowan, a self described anglo catholic, supported female bishops and he wasn’t some outlier from these groups.
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I always thought growing up that the only difference was we were not under authority of the Pope, but that our liturgy was almost identical with the liturgy of the Mass. I definitely identified more closely with the Catholic church than I did with baptists, methodists, presbyterians,
lutherans or evangelical churches. I did not consider myself solidly protestant. I think it depends on who you ask.
Granted the episcopal church I grew up in is very different to what it is today.
 
7_Sorrows said:
I always thought growing up that the only difference was we were not under authority of the Pope, but that our liturgy was almost identical with the liturgy of the Mass. I definitely identified more closely with the Catholic church than I did with baptists, methodists, presbyterians,
lutherans or evangelical churches. I did not consider myself solidly protestant. I think it depends on who you ask.
Granted the episcopal church I grew up in is very different to what it is today.
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It often depends on whom you ask, yes.

GKC
 
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