Are atheists immoral?

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Good grief, Charles. As per your last thread, we can reword this one as well:

Atheists are immoral! Who agrees with me?
 
This simply shows there is a huge anti-atheist bias, nothing else.

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Other than the “pelvic issues” why would an atheist be more likely to be immoral?
 
HerCrazierHalf said:
This simply shows there is a huge anti-atheist bias, nothing else.
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I don’t mind a bit of cut and thrust. A good honest disagreement on a philosophical point. A chance to airs one’s views. And we are on a Christian forum. But these are the last dozen or so of Charles’ posts. I wonder if anyone can discern a pattern in there somewhere…

Are atheists immoral? (well, yes of course they are).

Can atheists be saved? (well of course they can’t).

Evidence for a Multiverse? (another atheist attempt to avoid creation!).

Refuting religious agnosticism. (these guys don’t know what they are talking about).

The coming storm and atheistic socialism. (they will both bring on the end of the world).

Why the left likes Islam. (but they hate us!).

Richard Dawkins, God and morality. (how can idiots like Dawkins even suggest there is morality without God?).

Is Polygamy next? (a chance to mention bestiality (in your third post)).

Does the universe have a purpose? (atheists say no! what idiots!).

Positive aspects of atheism. (there aren’t any, but feel free to bring some up so I can ridicule them).

The most brilliant atheists? (more chances to snigger…).
 
Bradski said:
I don’t mind a bit of cut and thrust. A good honest disagreement on a philosophical point. A chance to airs one’s views. And we are on a Christian forum.
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Same. I get that there will be some level of strawman here regarding non believers as belief is the default view here. But one of my purposes here is to better understand why some believers feel the way they do about nonbelievers. This seems like a good spot to find out.
But these are the last dozen or so of Charles’ posts. I wonder if anyone can discern a pattern in there somewhere…
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Wait a minute. Is there some atheist/agnostic secret society with world domination plans I’m supposed to be a member of?
 
Atheists are immoral because they break the most fundamental of all the commandments (Deuteronomy 6:4).
 
I haven’t read the study but I believe it was attempting to understand why there is a widespread anti-atheistic bias in the world today.
If most people perceive atheists to be immoral then that would explain part of it.
 
The link’s not working for me- keeps bringing me here instead:

afp.com/en/news/2265/atheists-thought-immoral-even-fellow-atheists-study

Thank God for small mercies !

Okay you atheist and non-believer brothers and sisters of mine - “Thank God for small mercies” is a colloquialism and was intended that way. . .so please don’t go getting all wrapped around the axle. .🙂

As to the topic of this thread, “Are atheists immoral” - who knows ? I can’t pretend to know what is going on in someone else’s mind when I’m not even sure what is going on in my own mind half of the time.

If we are going to generalize with such narrow descriptors, then one might answer:
Well, if Catholics weren’t* immoral*, at least part of the time, then why would we need the sacrament of Confession/Reconciliation ?

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(Link wouldn’t open for me.)

There are two kinds -

If you mean the kind who used to call themselves atheists who are atheistic agnostics and don’t mind what the rest of us believe, the answer is about as much or as little as anyone else.

If you mean the kind who insist that we should be penalised for our beliefs yes that is an immoral line in itself.
 
peter26 said:
Atheists are immoral because they break the most fundamental of all the commandments (Deuteronomy 6:4).
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I’ve heard it explained also that we all will give our highest most perfect love, esteem and reverence to something.
If a person does not give that to God, then it is directed to something other than God.
So, that’s idolatry.
It’s like setting oneself as the highest authority and judge of one’s own life.

So, failure to worship God is immoral. So is idolatry.
There are related sins of lack of reverence, pride, disobedience.

But all of this comes from Atheism.

That’s why I would prefer asking “is atheism an immoral system” versus “are atheists immoral”. In the Catholic view, we might see a person raised in atheism and taught nothing about God as having a moral sensibility and not deliberately guilty of the sin against the First Commandment.

But atheism as a system of thought or belief is immoral in itself.

It looks like someone deleted the study in question - at least the link is gone now.

But I read a summary and it surveyed people about atheists and even atheists said that they were suspicious of other atheists in terms of morality.

Materialist atheism destroys any sense of a binding moral code anyway.

Dawkins said that he acts as if he has a moral choice even though his atheism tells him that he really doesn’t and evolution/nature determines all his actions.
 
peter26 said:
Atheists are immoral because they break the most fundamental of all the commandments (Deuteronomy 6:4).
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Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God the Lord alone. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. Take to heart all these instructions with which I charge you this day. Impress them upon your children. Recite them when you stay at home and when you are away, when you lie down and when you get up. Bind them as a sign on your hand and let them serve as a symbol on your forehead, inscribe them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.

Are you saying that atheists are Israel?

About time you Christians got round to the whole mezuzah business, by the way. 😉
 
Kaninchen said:
Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God the Lord alone. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. Take to heart all these instructions with which I charge you this day. Impress them upon your children. Recite them when you stay at home and when you are away, when you lie down and when you get up. Bind them as a sign on your hand and let them serve as a symbol on your forehead, inscribe them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.

Are you saying that atheists are Israel? . . . 😉
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I think it’s possible he might be saying that we are all Israelites at heart ; (and therefore - by your interpretation ,we’re all** immoral atheists** -:))
Kaninchen said:
. . . About time you Christians got round to the whole mezuzah business, by the way. 😉
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It’s not easy trying to break out of the* immoral atheist* shell. . . especially when you’re Catholic. But some of us are serious about it. And we appear to be making some progress in our strides towards the* mezuzah business* ; in trying to warm up to the idea. Why, just today I had a big bowl of lintel soup for lunch.

🙂
 
Kaninchen said:
Hear, O Israel! The Lord is our God the Lord alone. You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your might. Take to heart all these instructions with which I charge you this day. Impress them upon your children. Recite them when you stay at home and when you are away, when you lie down and when you get up. Bind them as a sign on your hand and let them serve as a symbol on your forehead, inscribe them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.

Are you saying that atheists are Israel?

About time you Christians got round to the whole mezuzah business, by the way. 😉
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Generalisations are facile but false…
 
STT said:
We cannot build a moral system without meaning.
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Moral according to which system/who?

Extreme Example:
Within the moral system that groups like ISIS use, it is moral to kill homosexuals. However, it is not moral to kill them under Catholicism.
 
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