Are Black people cursed?

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Hi! I am a young black Catholic male and am wondering if black people are cursed.
No. God does not “curse” people, much less entire groups of people. Evil done to a group of people (in this case, people of color) does not come from a curse from God; instead, it comes from the human sins and failings of some other group of people who happen to be in positions of power or control (in this case, probably white people of European origin).
 
If the Roman Catholic Church thought that black people were cursed we would not have black Saints. Nor would we have black Clergy.
 
If the Roman Catholic Church thought that black people were cursed we would not have black Saints. Nor would we have black Clergy.
The idea that Blacks are cursed or that Asians care little for individual human lives are racist lies of white supremacists.
 
No, blacks are certainly not cursed. I cannot imagine this is even thought by the Catholic hierarchy.

Well, as for the color of our skins, I heard that it was partly God’s own fault. During creation, he left black a wee bit longer in the oven, while he pulled out white too soon, and Asian was just right. White therefore was underbaked, while black was burnt, only Asian was the right brownish color.

It really has nothing to do with curse.
 
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a Blessed of the Church (Anne Marie) said that she had visions of the moment and saw in great detail when their bodies started becoming black, starting from the face; until them and all their descendants became fully black on their whole bodies.
I hope you understand what beatification is. It’s a conclusion that this person led a holy life. It does NOT mean that every single one of their opinions, or even “visions,” is true.
 
wondering if black people are cursed
Good heavens no!
Every group that ever lived has something they need to deal with, like a collective cross, but God doesn’t toss out curses like that.

I will remember you in my prayers
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I believe that it is important for me to know if my dark skin is a curse because then I can understand why and see what I can do about it.
Your skin color is not a curse. It is a beautiful variation in the species that God made in His image.

If it were true that dark skin color represented an ancestor who committed serious sin, we would all be darker than darkest night. This curse is a lie. It was designed by evil people to justify their sin, their cruel misuse of other human beings. It was spread through a combination of wickedness, ignorance, and fear of any who were different. Children were raised on it until it became so accepted in their culture, some otherwise good and honest people actually believed this garbage.
but perhaps most troubling is that we haven’t been known to be very religously Catholic or Jew (Catholicism and Judaism have always been seen as “white mans’ religions”
Let me tell you something about “white man’s religions.” Christianity is regarded as such because, for many peoples, it came from white missionaries who were quickly followed by white traders/soldiers/colonists. But Jesus came as a Middle Eastern Jew, because they were the people God chose to bring the Savior into the world. God Himself is the Father of all Nations, the loving Creator of all peoples. Have you noticed that when Our Mother Mary appears, she looks and dresses like the people she’s visiting? We are all equal in the eyes of God. Therefore, we are equal in the eyes of His Church.

I’m going to leave you with the following scenario. Consider two men: John and Phuong. Let’s say John is born to a wealthy French family in a predominantly Christian area, sometime before WWII. Phuong is born a few years later to a peasant family in Vietnam, which was occupied by France. John’s experience with Christianity is that everyone around him is Christian, that there are good Christians and bad, but Christianity itself is good. He loves God and wants to serve Him, so he becomes a priest. Let’s say he served faithfully all his life. He dies in his bed, quite an old man, and goes straight to Heaven.
Phuong’s experience of Christianity is that it comes from the French, who are occupying his country and many treat the Vietnamese like lesser beings. Christianity talks of love, but what he sees is hypocrisy. Most of his neighbors are not Christian and he is considered different, maybe even unpatriotic, for being one. Because of this, it is much harder for him to preserve in the faith. Nevertheless, he does. He believes in God through poverty, persecution, poor education, and everything else. He too loves God, becomes a priest, and serves faithfully for all his life. He eventually dies a martyr’s death in a Communist camp. He too goes straight to Heaven.
Two fine priests, but it seems like John had all the advantages! Perhaps Phuong was cursed?? No. Phuong was gold tested in fire. He was shaped and perfected by his trials. He honored God with his perseverance. He had more opportunities than John was to prove his love for God. He was not cursed, but blessed.
 
It would be hard to tell if it were true…but if it were, I wouldn’t view the curse as lessening anyone’s dignity. We are all equal in dignity. But it could be that there’s just more challenges to face, more misfortune. That is a way for a curse to manifest. I also believe that if it were true, God would give those who are dark skinned more merits because they overcame those difficulties.

I do not think an evil nature, moreso than whites, would be present in blacks. I don’t think God would do that. If anything, it would be that as a whole, God allowed more corruption in the race.
 
Wow thank you! I won’t mention how long it took to write it, rewrite it, etc 😅
 
This idea seems to me to be the perfect explanation of all the negative parts of the “black experience”.
Yes, but there are other explanations also, like the pride, greed, and cruelty of those who enslaved Blacks.
We are considered by many to be less beautiful, have much less variation (in eye colour, hair colour, and hair texture),
Do you really think that your perception of beauty should be controlled by other persons who think you are not? Why would that be your standard, rather than what God has said?

26 Then God said, “Let us make man in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion…" 27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them. 28 And God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth and subdue it; and have dominion…” And it was so. 31 And God saw everything that he had made, and behold, it was very good. Gen 1

"When God created man, he made him in the likeness of God. 2 Male and female he created them, and he blessed them and named them Man when they were created. Gen 5:1

I can assure you that anytime you substitute other people’s opinions for God’s perspective you will always cause yourself confusion and suffering.
have “less advanced” societies, have much fighting between each other in Africa
And how is “advanced” defined? By having more technology so that one is able to enslave and torture one’s neighbor? Do you honestly believe that non-Black societies have less fighting?
possibly have lower IQ’s
This is an absolute absurdity. It is the IQ that originated in Africa that has enabled mankind to fill the earth and subdue it! IQ is currently measured by tests created by upper class persons of European extraction, and is based primarily on American culture and values.
ere the go to people for cheap slaves, were segregated against and said not to have souls
A persons subjugation to slavery has nothing to do with IQ. The Jews were enslaved by Egypt for 400 years, and they are God’s chosen people! The Bible is full of non-Black races/cultures being captured and enslaved during war. In most cases, the princes/royalty and all the most educated persons were taken.
 
It doesn’t really help me believe otherwise when almost everything that is considered pure and holy must be white.
I agree.
The prophet Miriam criticizes Moses for having a Cushite wife (most likely because of skin tone).
No, because her own skin tone was also not “white”. She criticized because Moses did not leave her in Egypt. He was married to her before he was called to deliver the nation, and he brought her with him out of Egypt. She was not a Jew.
t is possible that when Christ died for our sins, the curse was lifted (if there ever was one) but if blackness was a curse than the black skin would be changed back (which didn’t happen).
A good point. It would seem that when Jesus died for our sins, skin color was not one of them!
This is an important thing to me because if being black really was a curse then that would mean that in heaven our skin would be made white “again” since we will worship God eternally with our bodies.
It would, and there would also have to be a change for Jesus, all the Jews and holy people before him and the Apostles since that time, since none of them were “white” either.
Our bodies are pleasing to him and if this was true then what would be most pleasing to him would be for our skin to be lighter.
I am glad you are following this logic to it’s irrrational conclusion!
I also always hear the argument that since Jesus Christ was perfect, then he must have been white with blue eyes and blonde hair since that is seen as perfection to many. That would also mean that it would be sacrilegious to paint Jesus with dark skin as that would be somehow cursing him.
Human beings have a tendency to project our own expectations onto things. Europeans that are lighter skinned imagine that the Holy Family was “white”. This happens in every culture.


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“Save Your People” features the part where it says that we “shall be whiter than snow” and it has always been that the light dispels the darkness—it seems the only logical way to complete this analogy would be to admit that since dark is bad, black people are worse. There are some positive associations with black people, however, like in Songs of Solomon where it talks about being “black but beautiful” (but it is still “black ‘but’ beautiful”). In this instance, blackness is seen as a good thing because things turn black when they are closer to the sun and to the light.
That’s about our SOULS, not our skin.
Look I’m left handed. Which was thought to be evil versus good (right handed) at one time.
I don’t lose sleep over it.
There’s no curse.
 
The idea that Blacks are cursed or that Asians care little for individual human lives are racist lies of white supremacists.
Some European societies are quite power hungry.
 
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Thank-you all very much. The truth is that I am not uninformed in the faith and have never heard this idea from Catholic sources. I am aware of the Ethiopian Church and all of its iconography, that just because a Blessed says something doesn’t make it true, that there are many beautiful dark-skinned people, etc. The reason I asked this was because for me, Catholicism has always been the source with answers to everything and perfect theology. I myself am actually very interested in Theology and Iconography (theology in line and colour!). I am very interested in education and other things. I guess I tend to overthink things. However recently I’ve been more exposed to many racist ideas. The only problem is that many of these ideas play on my (normally) logical train of thinking and lead me to illogical racist conclusions. Some may call me “white-washed” living in modern NA for believing the white lies of Catholicism. I know there are black Catholics and I’m not just staying Catholic because of that but because I know that Catholicism is correct and fair. It is easy to just say everyone is equal but it’s not easy to somehow discredit the belief that blacks are less intelligent when there is proof that blacks tend to score lower on IQ tests. And I haven’t really talked to anyone about these, just gathered information and different perspectives on such things and kind of just stayed contemplating all of these in my mind. And then it turns out that the one source which I know can reveal the truth on the issue (the Catholic Church) doesn’t seem to say much about these kinds of things. I know for instance that the Catholic Church isn’t racist or never has been but so many of the people “in it” are and so many have been allowed to do racist things in the name of it. The Catholic Church opposed racial slavery but not vigorously enough to stop priests and bishops from owning ones. So it led me here, asking for some solid theological proof that blacks are not cursed. Something very logical that I can stand behind and explore and be confident in that it’s the truth. You people were like angels to me! I have always and will continue to identify myself as Catholic first, before black, Canadian, etc. because I truly do believe that the Catholic church is universal and I love and celebrate the diversity in the Church. Maybe I am just taking into account and considering too much the opinions of others that I am having trouble clearly seeing the truth which Catholicism brings. I feel like I kind of went through a bit of a questioning behind my identity because I feel as though I am the only black Catholic in the world. But maybe the reason 6% of the pews in my Church are filled with black people is because 6% of the population of Canada is black.
 
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