Are Catholics Bound to Assent to Vatican II?

[Anesti33]

Can you cite a particular canon on the issue of setting up Catholic media? I was referring in my post specifically to canon 216.

 

[jofa]

Yes - Catholics ARE bound

 

[commenter]

Can you cite a particular canon on the issue of setting up Catholic media? I was referring in my post specifically to canon 216.

Refer to Canons 823 and 824, also some language in following canons down to 830.

They seem consistent with the context in the V2 document on Social Communications, and for that matter St. Pius X Encyclical “Pascendi”, sections 50 to 53. This is all media specific.

Regards section 216:

“…no undertaking is to claim the name Catholic without the consent of competent ecclesiastical authority…”

You have to make a judgement call here. Does anyone besides Catholics trust titles like “Church Militant” or “Rorate Coeli”, or “Angelus Press”? One might argue OnePeterFive is, maybe, not necessarily Catholic, but Lepanto? Does anyone but Catholics know Lepanto? Does Fatima Messenger sound Catholic?

The fact is CAF posters unwittingly cite them as Catholic and authoritative, they do not cite them the way they cite non Catholic sources. Those sites intend to be regarded (and donated to) as if Catholic.

You may like these unaffiliated websites more than other unaffiliated ones, like National Catholic Reporter, or worse, “Catholics for Choice” (eek!). Or “Mission to Catholics”? The problem is if you open the door an inch to some not-too-bad unaffiliated websites, like Lepanto or LSN, as kinda unofficial Catholic, you make it easier for the atrocious unaffiliated ones, like “Catholics for Choice”, or “Mission to Catholics”, to push that door wider.

 

[Julius_Caesar]

Salvation by faith was misapplied to mean faith alone. Should we throw Romans and Galatians aside? Becuase they were misapplied like Vatican II was?

 

[Dovekin]

Does Fatima Messenger sound Catholic?

Well, Fatima was Muhammed’s daughter, so…

 

[Margaret_Ann]

Some other sites that also choose not to affiliate are 1p5, CM, LSN, Rorate, Remnant, etc.

I wouldn’t put that fishwrap in the same category as faithful sites like 1P5, LSN, Rotate, and the Remnant (CM Idk).

 

[Alexandria2020]

 

[commenter]

The Cancel Culture trashes events like Christopher Columbus exploration, not because they care about history, or people long dead, but he’s a stand-in for contemporary American authority, in general. We live in an anti authority culture.

There was a period of reasonable practical questioning about V2 implementation, back in the 1970s. That has been replaced by the assault on V2 itself today, which has no practical benefit.

V2 criticism is kind of a stand-in for undermining current Catholic bishops and pastors. It’s a result of Catholics influenced by the anti authority culture.

 

[TMC]

V2 criticism is kind of a stand-in for undermining current Catholic bishops and pastors. It’s a result of Catholics influenced by the anti authority culture.

Interesting. I agree with the first sentence, but not the second. In my view, many of those attacking V2 are trying to undermine the current authority, but they have no problem with authority - they just want different people to be in authority. (Although I agree that your view may be more accurate for many, especially in the 'rank and file.")

 

[commenter]

commenter:

V2 criticism is kind of a stand-in for undermining current Catholic bishops and pastors. It’s a result of Catholics influenced by the anti authority culture.

Interesting. I agree with the first sentence, but not the second. In my view, many of those attacking V2 are trying to undermine the current authority, but they have no problem with authority - they just want different people to be in authority. (Although I agree that your view may be more accurate for many, especially in the 'rank and file.")

Actually the far Right (like the Left), is
now attacking many like Bishop Barron, Archbishop Chaput, EWTN, and others who fought for Tradition. Many opposed St JP2.

Even if Bishop Schneider were appointed Ordinary of their diocese, within a year they would be undermining him.

Attacking V2 is like storming the Bastille, or pulling down that explorer statue in the town square. A mobilization needs a focus.

 

[TMC]

You may be correct about that.