Well there could also be the case of a fairly young woman or girl placed under enormous pressure by her family or the man who impregnated her; often with threats of physical harm or being ostracized from the family, that would significantly mitigate culpability.I don’t think that is correct. Some things are written on the conscience, and the Catholic Church consider abortion to be one of them. The only exception to something like that might be someone who is mentally disabled who really doesn’t know that pregnancy means giving birth to a child and that abortion ends a pregnancy. Or possibly a young child who doesn’t understand what the procedure is or that they’re pregnant, and their parents getting it for them. But for the most part, a woman seeking out an abortion knows deep down that they are ending the life of a human being–they just let society “convince” them it is otherwise. But can they really stand before God and say “I didn’t know”?
You are wrong.I don’t think that is correct. Some things are written on the conscience, and the Catholic Church consider abortion to be one of them. The only exception to something like that might be someone who is mentally disabled who really doesn’t know that pregnancy means giving birth to a child and that abortion ends a pregnancy. Or possibly a young child who doesn’t understand what the procedure is or that they’re pregnant, and their parents getting it for them. But for the most part, a woman seeking out an abortion knows deep down that they are ending the life of a human being–they just let society “convince” them it is otherwise. But can they really stand before God and say “I didn’t know”?
You are wrong!Can. 1398 A person who procures a completed abortion incurs a latae sententiae excommunication.
vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P57.HTM
Seems pretty clear stated and without any additional “except for…”
In response to the poster who talked about people being coerced–in that case, some if not all of the sin lies on the person who coerced. If parents bring in their minor daughter and force the abortion, then the daughter did not procure the abortion, the parents did. I am also aware that there are women whose lives are threatened by their boyfriends if they don’t get an abortion. Arguably, the man involved is probably the one procuring it and forcing the woman to get it.
One point missing. If the person knows it is grave matter, but was coerced or threatened, then the condition of full consent might not be present and the person not guilty of mortal sin.You are wrong!
A person who commits a sin of grave matter but did not know at the time it was of grave matter has not committed a mortal sin.
A person who commits a sin of grave matter and did know it was a sin of grave matter has committed a mortal sin.
A person who commits a mortal sin but did not know it carried a penalty of excommunication is NOT excommunicated.
That’s correct.One point missing. If the person knows it is grave matter, but was coerced or threatened, then the condition of full consent might not be present and the person not guilty of mortal sin.
I apologize if someone already sufficiently answered your question but here is my response:"**Heresy **is the obstinate post-baptismal denial of some truth which must be believed with divine and catholic faith, or it is likewise an obstinate doubt concerning the same;
Apostasy is the total repudiation of the Christian faith;
Schism is the refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the Church subject to him." [Code of Canon Law c.751]"
So, looking at the issue of excommunication and the above list, it seems that Catholics who ignore what the Church teaches and use contraceptives to prevent pregnancy are automatically excommunicated either on the grounds of heresy or schism. As such they would be excluded from receiving the sacraments. Receiving communion would mean they were committing mortal sin.
Not so much outside the Church but denied access to all Sacraments except for the Sacrament of Reconciliation.I apologize if someone already sufficiently answered your question but here is my response:
You are asking about Catholics who USE contraceptives. Your question is silent as to whether these Catholics also believe what they are doing is sinful or not. As an earlier poster stated, a person could believe that something is gravely sinful but do it anyways. Heresy isn’t necessarily the correct label for persons committing grave sin. Heresy is about the person’s beliefs, not necessarily their actions.
Catholics who commit grave sin are still WITHIN the Church but lose their state of grace. They cannot receive communion without committing additional mortal sin. On the other hand, those heretics who are excommunicated latae setentia are OUTSIDE of the Church.
No. I think what I wrote was accurate. Those Catholics who commit mortal sins are still within the Church. Those heretics who are excommunicated are outside of the Church. I am basing this conclusion on Mystici Corporis Christi:Not so much outside the Church but denied access to all Sacraments except for the Sacrament of Reconciliation.
If they were outside the Church then they would not have access to any Sacraments but they do have access to the Sacrament of Reconciliation where if they are sorry and repent the excommunication can be lifted either by the priest, or if necessary with reference to the bishop, or in extreme cases to the Pope.No. I think what I wrote was accurate. Those Catholics who commit mortal sins are still within the Church. Those heretics who are excommunicated are outside of the Church. I am basing this conclusion on Mystici Corporis Christi:
- Nor must one imagine that the Body of the Church, just because it bears the name of Christ, is made up during the days of its earthly pilgrimage only of members conspicuous for their holiness, or that it consists only of those whom God has predestined to eternal happiness. It is owing to the Savior’s infinite mercy that place is allowed in His Mystical Body here below for those whom, of old, He did not exclude from the banquet.[20] For not every sin, however grave it may be, is such as of its own nature to sever a man from the Body of the Church, as does schism or heresy or apostasy. Men may lose charity and divine grace through sin, thus becoming incapable of supernatural merit, and yet not be deprived of all life if they hold fast to faith and Christian hope, and if, illumined from above, they are spurred on by the interior promptings of the Holy Spirit to salutary fear and are moved to prayer and penance for their sins.
- Let every one then abhor sin, which defiles the mystical members of our Redeemer; but if anyone unhappily falls and his obstinacy has not made him unworthy of communion with the faithful, let him be received with great love, and let eager charity see in him a weak member of Jesus Christ. For, as the Bishop of Hippo remarks, it is better “to be cured within the Church’s community than to be cut off from its body as incurable members.”[21] “As long as a member still forms part of the body there is no reason to despair of its cure; once it has been cut off, it can be neither cured nor healed.”
That is incorrect. A woman who takes the “morning-after-pill” is excommunicated. The Holy See has stated this.Abortion incurs automatic excommunication if it is a direct, procured abortion. Taking a contraceptive that has a **possibility **of causing an abortion does not meet that definition, although it is still gravely sinful.