Are Catholics who support abortions,contraception ect, guilty of dissent?

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katherine2:
I too, accept every teaching of the Church. I reject false interpretations of church teachings by some Catholics who attempt to redefine Church teachings in favor of jright wing ideas.
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Then we both agree.
 
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katherine2:
To the degree this opportunity exists, it exists because of liberals and the traditional Catholic Social Justice vision. The possibility of this opportunity his entirely depended on the social initiative of liberals and Catholics engaged in Social Action, most commendabley through organizations like the National Catholic Council for Interracial Justice (NCCIJ) along with Martin Luther King, Walter Reuther, Whitney Young, A. Philip Randolph, Eugene Carson Blake, Patrick Cardinal O’Boyle and many others.

You should hug a liberal. 😉
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Laissez faire economics is also a liberal doctrine. Socialism was developed in reaction to this form of capitalism, but it shares with this form of extreme liberalism the notion of society as primarily economic in nature. Catholic social doctrine rejects both extremes.
 
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RobbyS:
Laissez faire economics is also a liberal doctrine. Socialism was developed in reaction to this form of capitalism, but it shares with this form of extreme liberalism the notion of society as primarily economic in nature. Catholic social doctrine rejects both extremes.
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Thank you for a good explaination of the classical forms of these ideologies. Under the guidence of the Church, a “Third Way” developed, generally known as “Christian Democracy”. Christian Democracy is responsible for the development of most of the social welfare programs in Italy, Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, Luxembourg, and, to a degree, Germany, Netherlands, and Spain. Social Insurance (the concept on which the U.S. Social Security program is based) developed out of Christian Democracy and was in fact opposed by Socialism.
 
to the extent that they have been properly catechized, have heard proclaimed, read, and understand genuine Catholic magesterial teaching - yes, they are dissenting and disobedient. So many priests, bishops and catechists of the last two generations have failed in their duty to preach and teach the Gospel and Church doctrine, that the conscience of individuals may not have been properly formed, through no fault of their own. Therefore their personal guilt may be diminished (while the guilt of their appointed shepherds, pastors and teachers increases exponentially with the scandal and damage done by false teaching).
 
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puzzleannie:
to the extent that they have been properly catechized, have heard proclaimed, read, and understand genuine Catholic magesterial teaching - yes, they are dissenting and disobedient.
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I think you can be dissenting even if you do not understand the teaching of the Church. It may not be sinful but it still is dissent. There is also the issue of culpable ignorance where someone does not know or understand something that they should know or understand.

I don’t think you can be disobedient without knowing and understanding the teachings.
 
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