Are children conceived in rape a gift?

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I I am a product of rape. My mother gave me up for adoption. We have since met and she is very glad she gave birth to me. I would say she sees me as a gift now, even if she might not have at the time. I am thankful I am alive, and so is she. Last fall she campaigned for a candidate who was against abortion in all cases, including rape.
 
Thank you, Veronica97, for sharing this. Indeed you are a gift to us all, for providing this view and, I expect to many others in your life in so many ways. God bless you.
 
All life is a gift from God as He is the Author of Life. There can be sin and evil in how it comes to be but the creation of life is certainly from God and beautiful. It is the sin or evil of the perpetrator not the child conceived! The child is a gift, yes!

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“Certainly sons are a gift from the LORD, the fruit of the womb, a reward.”

~Psalm 127:3~

All children are gifts, period.
 
There is a lot of emotional manipulation going on in the issue, isn’t there? Politicians that have been getting themselves into trouble have done so largely through poor choice of words and failure to speak to the audience.

The main problem here is that many people see abortion NOT as the killing of an innocent child, but as a magic time machine that can go back and make that child never to have existed. Unfortunately, this is objectively not true. Abortion doesn’t “undo” a pregnancy, it kills the child. The child exists and abortion kills her. This is an injustice regardless of what crime her father committed. It is not remotely inaccurate to say that her life was a gift given to her and the world by God. God didn’t will the rape, but if a child was conceived, then He did act to bring a potential good out from the evil. Incidentally, that’s the same way Christ redeeemed us. God didn’t CAUSE Pilate and the Sanhedrin to crucify Jesus, but He did bring good from it.

The other blunder pols have made lately involves the very nature of pregnancy from rape. As any NFP practitioner knows, a woman cannot get pregnant if her cervical mucus status is not one that permits sperm mobility. While the critics are correct to angrily proclaim that a raped woman most certainly CAN become pregnant, the pols in question had a point in that it is biologically far less likely for a rape to result in pregnancy than consensual sex is. Again, anybody familiar with the anatomy knows that an aroused woman produces her own, ahem, lubrication fluid (and it takes rather a lot of arousal sometimes too!). This biological reaction can broaden the time period in which sperm can travel and fertilize an egg compared to the woman’s non-aroused cervical mucus condition. In other words, the pols understood enough about the process to be dangerous (to themselves and others). While their critics appear to know NOTHING about the subject, they nevertheless scored some major PR points. Such is politics. The lesson? Heck if I know. Maybe it’s to think through what you are about to say before you say it and to consider your audience!
 
Also, we are conceived in original sin whether we are products of rape or concensual intercourse, so what does it matter the reason we were conceived?
Of course, it matters to the woman being raped.
 
I think both morally and legally the mother is obligated to raise the child conceived through rape. You just can’t abandon the child.
Actually, a rape victim is not morally, and certainly not legally, obligated to raise a child conceived in rape. I don’t know where you live, but a rape victim has no such obligation in most free worlds.
 
Actually, a rape victim is not morally, and certainly not legally, obligated to raise a child conceived in rape. I don’t know where you live, but a rape victim has no such obligation in most free worlds.
By this I presume you mean she morally has the option to allow other parents to adopt the child, not that she has the option to execute the child for the crime of her father.
 
Actually, a rape victim is not morally, and certainly not legally, obligated to raise a child conceived in rape. I don’t know where you live, but a rape victim has no such obligation in most free worlds.
And I am thankful I don’t live in a country that would force a rape victim to continue her pregnancy if she didn’t want to. I can’t imagine 9 months of a constant reminder of a traumatic and horrific event.
 
And I am thankful I don’t live in a country that would force a rape victim to continue her pregnancy if she didn’t want to.
The vast majority of rape victims who become pregnant choose to give birth to their children, so the number of rape victims seeking abortions is actually a very tiny percentage of the overall total of abortions requested. If it were rape victims alone who were requesting abortions, there would be in the range of about 5-6 abortions per year in Canada, instead of ~ 65 thousand.
I can’t imagine 9 months of a constant reminder of a traumatic and horrific event.
And I can’t imagine adding a second traumatic and horrific event to add both insult and injury to the first one - abortion is far more invasive and painful than rape, even under clinical conditions.
 
The vast majority of rape victims who become pregnant choose to give birth to their children
I would like to see some statistics on this. I was unable to find any when I searched.

Given the ease of obtaining emergency contraception in all its various forms, I would be surprised if your statement is correct.
 
The vast majority of rape victims who become pregnant choose to give birth to their children, so the number of rape victims seeking abortions is actually a very tiny percentage of the overall total of abortions requested. If it were rape victims alone who were requesting abortions, there would be in the range of about 5-6 abortions per year in Canada, instead of ~ 65 thousand.
As long as that is their voluntary choice, as opposed to government coercion.
And I can’t imagine adding a second traumatic and horrific event to add both insult and injury to the first one - abortion is far more invasive and painful than rape, even under clinical conditions.
In getting over the trauma of a rape, I suspect that the victim would want to return their body and their sanity to before the rape occurred - i.e. NOT pregnant.
 
As long as that is their voluntary choice, as opposed to government coercion.
How on earth did people survive for 10,000 years, when abortion was illegal. :hmmm: 🤷
In getting over the trauma of a rape, I suspect that the victim would want to return their body and their sanity to before the rape occurred - i.e. NOT pregnant.
Even an abortion can’t erase the memory of what happened, and an abortion doesn’t “restore the body” to a non-pregnant condition - rather, it causes a miscarriage of a living, healthy child - so, now instead of being a woman who was raped, you become a woman who not only was raped, but also deliberately had a miscarriage and lost her child.

But the body will be restored to “not pregnant” all by itself in less than a year, without all of that - and much more safely and naturally.
 
I feel that all children are gifts of God. I don’t believe God wishes for a woman to be raped, but He turns something terrible into something good and beautiful. I don’t believe it is the baby’s fault his/her mom was raped so that is why I do not believe in getting an abortion because of rape. The woman should be angry at the person who did this to her, not a defenseless baby. I know several women who have a child from rape. When they were pregnant they tried everything to abort the baby because they hated the baby. They blamed the baby for the rape. Now, they love and couldn’t live with out their children. God does work in mysterious ways.
 
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