Are different Rites in the same diocese?

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Would an Eastern Rite Parish be in the same diocese as a Latin Rite Parish or are there different diocese in the same area for the different rites? If they are in the same diocese would they have the same bishop or would there be 2 co-bishops.
 
Would an Eastern Rite Parish be in the same diocese as a Latin Rite Parish or are there different diocese in the same area for the different rites? If they are in the same diocese would they have the same bishop or would there be 2 co-bishops.
Eastern Catholic churches have their own dioceses (generally called eparchies), which may or may not overlap with Latin Rite dioceses. So an Eastern bishop will be in charge of his own eparchy, which might cover the same ground as, say, two and a half local Latin dioceses. The Eastern bishop has no role at all in the Latin dioceses; he is not a “co-bishop.” They are independent bishops of their own people and dioceses, which just happen to cover roughly the same portion of the country. You are standing right now in a Latin diocese and one or more Eastern eparchies, and it is your canonical status as a Latin-rite Catholic that determines that it is the Latin bishop, and not any Eastern eparch, who has canonical authority over you. If you formally switched rites, then the situation would reverse.
 
My Parish is in a Latin Rite Diocese. We are also physically within the areas overseen by the South Eastern Group of the Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham, Opus Dei, the Georgian Archbishop of London, the Melkite Exarch of London, the Belarussian Metropolitan of England, the Chaldean Archbishop for England and possibly a few others I’ve forgotten or hadn’t realised were Catholic. The only ones I’m not in touch with are Opus Dei although I’m probably under observation:eek:.
 
Eastern Catholic churches have their own dioceses (generally called eparchies), which may or may not overlap with Latin Rite dioceses. So an Eastern bishop will be in charge of his own eparchy, which might cover the same ground as, say, two and a half local Latin dioceses. The Eastern bishop has no role at all in the Latin dioceses; he is not a “co-bishop.” They are independent bishops of their own people and dioceses, which just happen to cover roughly the same portion of the country. You are standing right now in a Latin diocese and one or more Eastern eparchies, and it is your canonical status as a Latin-rite Catholic that determines that it is the Latin bishop, and not any Eastern eparch, who has canonical authority over you. If you formally switched rites, then the situation would reverse.
Is this true even with very, very small Eastern Orthodox congregations? In my town, we have an Orthodox building right next to the oldest Roman Catholic church in town. It’s a very small building, and they use the Roman Catholic church for the Liturgy of the Hours (which is awesome) and their own services. I have always thought that this was really neat, as I love seeing such unity, and they almost seem more knowledgeable about our parish than the actual Roman Catholics, haha!

So even if it is a very small number of people (I’d say maybe 100 at the very most, though I haven’t seen more than 20 gathered together at one time) they would have an Orthodox bishop presiding over them?
 
I honestly think there should be dioceses
with parishes of different rites. It would help create a sense of catholic unity. It would also be great if aparish had mass at one time using the Latin Rite and then at another using an eastern rite. Just an idea.
 
Would an Eastern Rite Parish be in the same diocese as a Latin Rite Parish or are there different diocese in the same area for the different rites? If they are in the same diocese would they have the same bishop or would there be 2 co-bishops.
If there is an Eastern eparchy (diocese) which covers that territory for that particular Eastern Church sui iuris then each bishop would have jurisdiction over his own parishes and parishioners. There is no “shared jurisdiction.”

However, it sometimes does happen–not so much at the present, but certainly in the past, that there is an Eastern parish which has no bishop of its own. In that case, the local Latin bishop is the bishop of that Eastern parish. Depending on when certain eparchies (or exarchies) for Eastern Catholics were established, we go back just a few years, or many decades. I cannot name any offhand, but there may be a few isolated Eastern parishes still in the US. Actually, there “probably” are, I just cannot name any.

Just for example, the Syrian Catholic Eparchy of Our Lady of Deliverance was not established until 1995. Before then, the Syrian parishes were under the jurisdiction of the local Latin bishops.

So yes, it is possible to have a Latin diocese that happens to have an Eastern parish as part of that diocese.
 
My Parish is in a Latin Rite Diocese. We are also physically within the areas overseen by the South Eastern Group of the Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham, Opus Dei, the Georgian Archbishop of London, the Melkite Exarch of London, the Belarussian Metropolitan of England, the Chaldean Archbishop for England and possibly a few others I’ve forgotten or hadn’t realised were Catholic. The only ones I’m not in touch with are Opus Dei although I’m probably under observation:eek:.
The Copts in Britain are also under the His Holiness the Patriarch of Alexandria… just thought I would throw them in the mix lol
 
My Parish is in a Latin Rite Diocese. We are also physically within the areas overseen by the South Eastern Group of the Ordinariate of Our Lady of Walsingham, Opus Dei, the Georgian Archbishop of London, the Melkite Exarch of London, the Belarussian Metropolitan of England, the Chaldean Archbishop for England and possibly a few others I’ve forgotten or hadn’t realised were Catholic. The only ones I’m not in touch with are Opus Dei although I’m probably under observation:eek:.
To be picky, the entire earth is within Opus Dei’s geographic jurisdiction :bigyikes:.

(However, they only have personal jurisdiction over their own members for anyone out there fearing a Dan Brown conspiracy!)
 
Is this true even with very, very small Eastern Orthodox congregations? In my town, we have an Orthodox building right next to the oldest Roman Catholic church in town. It’s a very small building, and they use the Roman Catholic church for the Liturgy of the Hours (which is awesome) and their own services. I have always thought that this was really neat, as I love seeing such unity, and they almost seem more knowledgeable about our parish than the actual Roman Catholics, haha!

So even if it is a very small number of people (I’d say maybe 100 at the very most, though I haven’t seen more than 20 gathered together at one time) they would have an Orthodox bishop presiding over them?
It would depend on the local set up, it is likely that the the small orthodox congregation is under the jurisdiction of an orthodox bishop/eparchy. The parish itself would likely be presided over by a priest reporting to a bishop, and not the bishop himself though, if that was your question.
 
If there is an Eastern eparchy (diocese) which covers that territory for that particular Eastern Church sui iuris then each bishop would have jurisdiction over his own parishes and parishioners. There is no “shared jurisdiction.”

However, it sometimes does happen–not so much at the present, but certainly in the past, that there is an Eastern parish which has no bishop of its own. In that case, the local Latin bishop is the bishop of that Eastern parish. Depending on when certain eparchies (or exarchies) for Eastern Catholics were established, we go back just a few years, or many decades. I cannot name any offhand, but there may be a few isolated Eastern parishes still in the US. Actually, there “probably” are, I just cannot name any.

Just for example, the Syrian Catholic Eparchy of Our Lady of Deliverance was not established until 1995. Before then, the Syrian parishes were under the jurisdiction of the local Latin bishops.

So yes, it is possible to have a Latin diocese that happens to have an Eastern parish as part of that diocese.
Yes, quite so. The general rule is: where a Church does not have its own diocese (“eparchy” if you will), any parishes of that Church in a particular country are under the jurisdiction of local Latin Ordinary. For example, there are two Coptic CC parishes in the US, both of which are technically under the jurisdiction of the local Latin Ordinary. The same, I believe, true for the small handful of Russian CC congregations here.

It can also happen (and does in a few cases), again where a Church has not its own diocese, that parishes of such a Church come under the jurisdiction of another Eastern Church. There is, IIRC, one Italo-Greek (aka Italo-Albanian) parish in the US which (by agreement) falls under the jurisdiction of one of the Ruthenian Eparchies. So, too, again IIRC, are the few Hungarian CC parishes here.
 
It would depend on the local set up, it is likely that the the small orthodox congregation is under the jurisdiction of an orthodox bishop/eparchy. The parish itself would likely be presided over by a priest reporting to a bishop, and not the bishop himself though, if that was your question.
Yes, that is what I was asking in my rambling, roundabout way. 😛 Thank you so much! That is very interesting!
 
It depends if there is a hierarchy established in an area. For example, the Melkites and Chaldeans in our area are both mission parishes, and thus under the care of the Latin Bishop. The Ukrainian Church however has a larger presence and therefore has established their own eparchies and even arch-eparchy in Canada.

So it depends really how much people they have in an area and if there is a hierarchy established in said area.
 
To be picky, the entire earth is within Opus Dei’s geographic jurisdiction :bigyikes:.

(However, they only have personal jurisdiction over their own members for anyone out there fearing a Dan Brown conspiracy!)
I believe that the Military Archdiocese also has the entire earth as its jurisdiction.
 
It depends if there is a hierarchy established in an area. For example, the Melkites and Chaldeans in our area are both mission parishes, and thus under the care of the Latin Bishop.
What area is that? I know of a couple of mission parishes in the Melkite Church that are served out of a Melkite parish and therefore fall under the jurisdiction of the Melkite Bishop in the United States.
 
What area is that? I know of a couple of mission parishes in the Melkite Church that are served out of a Melkite parish and therefore fall under the jurisdiction of the Melkite Bishop in the United States.
Vancouver, BC

The Chaldean priest is even biritual and helps around in the RC diocese. He’s the usual substitute in my previous RC parish.
 
Yes, quite so. The general rule is: where a Church does not have its own diocese (“eparchy” if you will), any parishes of that Church in a particular country are under the jurisdiction of local Latin Ordinary. For example, there are two Coptic CC parishes in the US, both of which are technically under the jurisdiction of the local Latin Ordinary. The same, I believe, true for the small handful of Russian CC congregations here.
The four Russian Greek/Eastern/Byzantine Catholic Churches in the US are under Latin Bishops. For my Russian parish at this time in our history this has been a true blessing. We have received a great deal of care and support during a time of significant challenges. Were our bishop/eparch 2000 miles away things likely would have been very different, and much more difficult. Sometimes there are silver linings in these clouds. 🙂
 
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