Are Evangelicals Christians

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I’ve yet to meet a Protestant who follows that hasn’t been Bapatized. It is as important to them as it is for Catholics. The ritual itself is as important, as well. There is a different appreciation for doing it as an adult, however; with full appreciation for its meaning. There is a different appreciation that Jesus will not fail those who may not have had the opportunity to do, since so many become baptized as adults.
Maybe my friend just meant that it was a personal choice, or that in extreme cases baptism wasn’t necessary. COuld this be a Campus Crusade for Christ belief about baptism that it isn’t the most important thing (since i’d assume being saved is)?
 
Hi I understand that protestants are considered Christians by Catholics because they preserved marriage and baptism. My question is about Evangelical Churches. Many Evangelicals do not practice infant baptism but believers baptism where you’re baptized after you accept Jesus as your savior.

Does this mean Evangelicals aren’t Christians?
In that they orient their lives toward obedience to Jesus Christ to the best of their understanding, they are certainly Christians. God is beyond the Sacraments, so I commit my Evangelical friends to His mercy in the confidence that He will not disappoint them -but it would certainly be better for them to be Catholics, certainly, in order to have access to the graces of the Sacraments.
 
In that they orient their lives toward obedience to Jesus Christ to the best of their understanding, they are certainly Christians. God is beyond the Sacraments, so I commit my Evangelical friends to His mercy in the confidence that He will not disappoint them -but it would certainly be better for them to be Catholics, certainly, in order to have access to the graces of the Sacraments.
I like the way you kindly phrased this. Thank you so very much…
 
Maybe my friend just meant that it was a personal choice, or that in extreme cases baptism wasn’t necessary. COuld this be a Campus Crusade for Christ belief about baptism that it isn’t the most important thing (since i’d assume being saved is)?
It is definitely not a personal choice. Jesus said to be baptized, so if a new Christian purposefully refuses to be baptized even when they’ve had a chance to be then that isn’t good because the new Christian is refusing to participate in something that Christ has ordained and thus acting in disobedience. It is also important because it is powerfully symbolic of what the Christian life is all about, and baptism in that sense can become an opportunity to present the gospel to unsaved friends and family who witness the baptism. Also, beyond the symbolic, there can be real spiritual strength and blessing that comes to the believer who is baptized in faith.

That said, baptism is not presented as something that is the most important thing a new Christian has to do. You are considered a Christian as soon as you turn your life over to Christ.
 
It is definitely not a personal choice. Jesus said to be baptized, so if a new Christian purposefully refuses to be baptized even when they’ve had a chance to be then that isn’t good because the new Christian is refusing to participate in something that Christ has ordained and thus acting in disobedience.
When I was a Baptist pastor I rarely ran across such people. Unless they were Baptized as infants or children.
There was a Baptist pastor who tried to convince my wife that her baptism in a Disciples of Christ church was not valid because the denomination is “liberal”. She gave him one of those “do you really wanna go there?” looks that still scares me.:eek:
Subject was never brought up again. 😃
 
It is a question with too many permutations to cover. The vast majority most surely are, but then we get into some dicey stuff with the stranger and more innovative groups like Mormons, JWs, Unitarians, …etc.
 
When I was a Baptist pastor I rarely ran across such people. Unless they were Baptized as infants or children.
There was a Baptist pastor who tried to convince my wife that her baptism in a Disciples of Christ church was not valid because the denomination is “liberal”. She gave him one of those “do you really wanna go there?” looks that still scares me.:eek:
Subject was never brought up again. 😃
I’m not sure how it is in other churches, but in my church we practice total immersion. However, when people come to our church, baptisms in other churches do not become an issue. Those wanting to become members who have already been baptized are not asked about the mode or anything. We just ask if they’ve been baptized in water according to Matthew 28:19. We also practice open communion for all Christians (baptized or not) who are old enough to comprehend the significance. So, we don’t have issues like the one you described.
 
It is a question with too many permutations to cover.
That tends to happen when you open up a word like “evangelical” to any and all definitions. 😉
The vast majority most surely are, but then we get into some dicey stuff with the stranger and more innovative groups like Mormons, JWs, Unitarians, …etc.
When did Mormons, Jehovah’s Witness, and Unitarians become classified as “Evangelicals”?
 
Hi I understand that protestants are considered Christians by Catholics because they preserved marriage and baptism. My question is about Evangelical Churches. Many Evangelicals do not practice infant baptism but believers baptism where you’re baptized after you accept Jesus as your savior.

Does this mean Evangelicals aren’t Christians?
All those who profess belief in the Divinity of Christ and use the “In nomine Patri et Filius et Spiritui Sanctus” formula for baptism-are considered Christians.

I caveat this by saying that “Catholics are the original Christians”.

Evangelicals have their duckies out of order because…well…because away from the one, true Catholic church they tend to keep what makes them Christians but only keep one leg of the tripod of truth.

hope this helps.
 
That tends to happen when you open up a word like “evangelical” to any and all definitions. 😉

When did Mormons, Jehovah’s Witness, and Unitarians become classified as “Evangelicals”?
Is “Evangelical” an actual denomination, or is it more of a description of how they practice their faith?

Mormons and JWs are certainly “evangelical” in their practices, since they go out and preach the gospel in the streets, and go door to door to evangelize.
 
They do door-to-door evangelism; hence, “evangelical.” As well as not being Sacramental churches, and not being historically or theologically connected to the Apostles.
Mormons, JW’s and Unitarians are definitely not Evangelicals.
 
Is “Evangelical” an actual denomination, or is it more of a description of how they practice their faith?
“Evangelical” can refer to both. Some denominations are pretty uniformly Evangelical. However, Evangelicals can also be in mainline denominations, such as Anglican, Presbyterian, and Methodist churches.
 
“What is an Evangelical?”

There are about ten criteria for evaluating whether someone is an evangelical.That’s not my point. I know what it is but I ain’t gonna tell you. 😃

There has been considerable debate in my church about the name of our denomination: ‘Evangelical Presbyterian’. To some non-Christians, we might as well fly the Nazi flag and hope to draw them. It has become a real problem in our society because it has now become associated with an ultra right wing Republican ideology and whatever it used to mean has been gutted. Anybody can call themselves an evangelical and no one knows the difference. We are NOT Republican party headquarters and Republican Party = the Christian Church at prayer. I sometimes wonder if that is not a way some elements have used to remove a moral viewpoint from the public forum.

Frankly I am not sure WHY we chose the name ‘Evangelical Presbyterian’. It was back when ‘Evangelical’ was a good word, full of concise and crisp meaning, without political overtones.

Nowadays the word is a lot like overchewed bubblegum.
 
“What is an Evangelical?”

It has become a real problem in our society because it has now become associated with an ultra right wing Republican ideology and whatever it used to mean has been gutted.

Frankly I am not sure WHY we chose the name ‘Evangelical Presbyterian’. It was back when ‘Evangelical’ was a good word, full of concise and crisp meaning, without political overtones.

Nowadays the word is a lot like overchewed bubblegum.
Well said.
 
There are about ten criteria for evaluating whether someone is an evangelical.That’s not my point. I know what it is but I ain’t gonna tell you. 😃

Nowadays the word is a lot like overchewed bubblegum.
hahahahaha!!!
 
Mormons and JWs are certainly “evangelical” in their practices, since they go out and preach the gospel in the streets, and go door to door to evangelize.
You’re talking about being evangelistic. Evangelicals are persons belonging to Evangelicalism, which is something far more than being passionate about sharing your religion.
Is “Evangelical” an actual denomination, or is it more of a description of how they practice their faith?
Evangelical refers to a type of Christian. In the 16th century, it was first applied to Lutheran and Reformed churches, because they stressed the doctrine of justification by faith alone and the primary authority of scripture and the priesthood of all believers.

In America, the term became associated with not simply Protestantism in general but a specific type of Protestant. This happened in colonial times and the association has stuck. During America’s colonial era, “Evangelical” was used to describe those Protestants, particularly Baptists and Methodists, who stressed the importance and necessity of a conscious conversion experience. Evangelicals were and still are dedicated to world missions, and they have spread Evangelicalism around the world.

While this will be highly simplified, for the sake of brevity, I will summarize for you the “evangelical” distinctive:

The need for personal conversion, or being “born again”
A high regard for biblical authority
An emphasis on teachings that proclaim the saving death and resurrection of the Son of God, Jesus Christ
Actively expressing and sharing the gospel

In other words, “conversionism, biblicism, crucicentrism, and activism”. Thanks to Wikipedia and David Bebbington for the list and quote!

In recent years, the liberalization of the Protestant mainline has contributed to a simplistic notion that “evangelicals” are simply “conservative” Protestants, while the mainline churches are “liberal.” It is certainly true that evangelicals tend to hold to the historically orthodox positions of Christianity (like believing in the Bible’s reliability and things like an actual Virgin Birth); however, liturgically, evangelicals are often quite progressive (incorporating modern worship music and dispensing with clerical vestments, etc.). Also, there are considerable numbers of evangelicals within mainline Protestant churches.

While heterodox groups like Mormons, and Jehovah’s Witnesses may be evangelistic, no one either inside or outside of Evangelicalism claims them to be “evangelicals.”

P.S. Baptists and Pentecostals are generally considered evangelical across the board. While not all Methodists, Presbyterians, Anglicans (or Episcopalians), and other mainline churches are evangelical, many of them are. Historically, evangelicalism has been the dominant form of Protestantism in America, but with the rise of modernism and theological liberalism, the mainline churches institutionally have not stood for evangelical values in many decades.
 
You’re talking about being evangelistic. Evangelicals are persons belonging to Evangelicalism, which is something far more than being passionate about sharing your religion.
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Is “Evangelical” an actual denomination, or is it more of a description of how they practice their faith?

Evangelical refers to a type of Christian. In the 16th century, it was first applied to Lutheran and Reformed churches, because they stressed the doctrine of justification by faith alone and the primary authority of scripture and the priesthood of all believers.

In America, the term became associated with not simply Protestantism in general but a specific type of Protestant. This happened in colonial times and the association has stuck. During the America’s colonial era, “Evangelical” was used to describe those Protestants, particularly Baptists and Methodists, who stressed the importance and necessity of a conscience conversion experience.

While this will be highly simplified, for the sake of brevity, I will summarize for you the “evangelical” distinctive:

The need for personal conversion, or being “born again”
A high regard for biblical authority
An emphasis on teachings that proclaim the saving death and resurrection of the Son of God, Jesus Christ
Actively expressing and sharing the gospel

In other words, “conversionism, biblicism, crucicentrism, and activism”. Thanks to Wikipedia and David Bebbington for the list and quote!

In recent years, the liberalization of the Protestant mainline has contributed to a simplistic notion that “evangelicals” are simply “conservative” Protestants, while the mainline churches are “liberal.” It is certainly true that evangelicals tend to hold to the historically orthodox positions of Christianity (like believing in the Bible’s reliability and things like an actual Virgin Birth); however, liturgically, evangelicals are often quite progressive (incorporating modern worship music and dispensing with clerical vestments, etc.). Also, there are considerable numbers of evangelicals within mainline Protestant churches.
well clarified; like butter… 👍
 
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