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Riman643
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I am not going to waste my time. You all have made up your mind.
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CaptainPrudeman
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You’re the only person here who thinks that. All your actions point directly to what she said being true.
Perhaps it is because actions speak louder than words spoken after them.
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twf
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A mom and dad raising their children together and maximizing time with their children is obviously the ideal, we can all agree with that, but its not always practical.
Our son is now in kindergarten - and yes the teachers are “raising” him part of the day - but ultimately this is for his benefit…he will learn much that we can’t effectively teach him at home while working, as well as social skills. Earlier, pre-covid, he was in a daycare/pre-school as my wife and I both work…that doesn’t mean we didn’t spend a lot of time with him or that our love was in anyway diminished. I would take him every morning and pick him up every afternoon - spending a half hour with him on the train each way - quality time. I would spend hours with him each evening…and long outings on Saturday and Sunday. The time he spent in that daycare did a world of good for him in terms of social skills and discipline, especially as he has no siblings nor cousins…
Our son is now in kindergarten - and yes the teachers are “raising” him part of the day - but ultimately this is for his benefit…he will learn much that we can’t effectively teach him at home while working, as well as social skills. Earlier, pre-covid, he was in a daycare/pre-school as my wife and I both work…that doesn’t mean we didn’t spend a lot of time with him or that our love was in anyway diminished. I would take him every morning and pick him up every afternoon - spending a half hour with him on the train each way - quality time. I would spend hours with him each evening…and long outings on Saturday and Sunday. The time he spent in that daycare did a world of good for him in terms of social skills and discipline, especially as he has no siblings nor cousins…
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Athanasiy
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It turns out that a woman can even be the driving force of anti-dictators revolution, and the driving force for the transformation of society from totalitarism to democracy.
These are fresh photos from the Republic of Belarus, where the people rebelled against the dictatorship of Lukashenka.
Sometimes we must admit. Women are stronger than us, men.
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Sometimes we must admit. Women are stronger than us, men.
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angell1
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this is why we are better off staying far away from traditional priest celebrity so and so, at least for me anyways, very bad for those with scruples. ti’s bad for a priest to be lax with church teaching but ti’s equally just as bad for priests to be so strict and tell people that things are sins when they are not and have never declared to be by the magisterium. but i digress
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Paddy1989
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I don’t think the head of a heretical Church is a good example lol1ke:
You forgot one Very Important Category:Marinakeer:
Yes, of course women can be “bosses”, a.k.a managers, directors, CEOs, owners of companies, heads of companies, abbesses of convents, and more.
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We are not amused.
God save the Queen!
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twf
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Oh come on…she’s the legal Chief of State of 16 sovereign nations. She’s also a rare example of a Christian leader who will actually talk about God and Christ in public…something I truly appreciate as a Canadian. Our elected politicians won’t mention the G- word, let alone the C- (Christ) word to save their life… its a breath of fresh air when I tune into Her Majesty’s annual Christmas address and hear her, as our Chief of State, say things like “let’s put the Christ back in Christmas”.
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I don’t know what she is or isn’t doing in regards to her son… I do know that she’s been a tireless example of duty for many decades and is now well into her 90s.
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I don’t think the head of a heretical Church is a good example lolYou forgot one Very Important Category:
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God save the Queen!Boris Johnson also did a nice job of this last Christmas. Such things make me wonder if the UK isn’t better off without ties to secularized Europe, and I was very much opposed to Brexit.
As for HM, she is only the nominal “head” of the Church of England ex officio (by virtue of her office). It is not as though she ever took any initiative to become the head of the C of E. As a practical matter, it means next to nothing. Besides, my comments were only directed towards her role as Queen of the UK and, separately, of the Commonwealth realms who retain the monarchy. (But, on the other hand, she didn’t “take any initiative” to become Queen either — she simply inherited the monarchy.)
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That’s the thing though isn’t it. Most people are fond of her because the perceived duty, which is understandable, but when you get to the nitty gritty, she’s just another woman who was forced to be the Head who isn’t that great once you look at the specifics. Prince Andrew, the raising of her children, handling Diana/Harry/Meghan, her offshore accounts, the British press etc. I think the monarchy is romanticised because if this was any other business, we would see it for what it is.
But that’s another topic for another day, lol! She’s a boss, I’ll give you that! I would have ran away to be with the horses if I were her the moment my father became the heir!
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twf
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That was technically the question that was asked…before someone tried to disqualify her on the grounds that she is a “heretic”. By that logic, Donald Trump is not a boss…
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Lea101
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True, but i believe their point was that she doesn’t count because she inherited it because there were no sons. I believe that in her time, the sons took precedence over the daughters in the order of precedence, but her dad only had 2 girls. So that part kinda negates the whole “women can be bosses” thing, if she’s only the boss because she didn’t have a brother.
I’m not sure whose “point” is being referred to here, but people rise to positions of authority all the time, directly or (more commonly) indirectly, simply because they inherited their position — look at all the children who inherit their families’ businesses. True, they can always choose to sell the business, or hire other people to run it while they merely retain ownership, but by the same token, the heir to a throne can always abdicate — look at the Queen’s uncle.twf:
True, but i believe their point was that she doesn’t count because she inherited it because there were no sons. I believe that in her time, the sons took precedence over the daughters in the order of precedence, but her dad only had 2 girls. So that part kinda negates the whole “women can be bosses” thing, if she’s only the boss because she didn’t have a brother.
The fact that Her Majesty is, regrettably, a material heretic, is neither here nor there, as regards the question “is she a good boss?”. Nothing would make me happier than to see the Queen wake up tomorrow morning, say “this church must reunite with Rome and do everything that entails, have all of her clergy ordained in apostolic succession recognized by Rome, accept everything Rome teaches, and reject everything Rome rejects”.
Not sure what kind of schisms and constitutional crises this would spark, but we can always hope and pray. God can do anything. I commented to my family today, that Mitt Romney gave me the best birthday present I could have wished for, in saying he will vote for a qualified Supreme Court nominee, thus basically clinching the whole matter. If Amy Coney Barrett is confirmed as Justice, I will shout the same victory cry that I did when Ratzinger was elected Pope — and that was one huge victory cry indeed! I’m sure everyone on the cul-de-sac heard me that day.
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Lea101
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That’s true. I’m just saying that she’s not a good example if we want to talk about how Christianity accepts female bosses, if she’s a boss solely because there is no male heir and the monarchy had to go on. I do get that whether she’s a good boss or not is irrelevant, but i brought it up because of the implication that she was a good Christian. It’s kind of like how we see certain posts saying that of course a wife has authority over her husband!..if he is mentally incapacitated.
I mean, yes, I would like to wake up and see that I won the lottery as well!
That aside, does she have the authority to do that? I thought someone here has talked about how she has no authority over the decisions of the COE. I also would imagine her staff smothering her with a pillow the moment she voices out this intention anyway, since they get so worked up over the slightest perceived break of tradition. I would be interested to see if the church of England would reunite with us. I don’t think Charles or William is religious (and they seem more progressive than not) so realistically speaking, I think we would see a more secular monarchy before a Catholic one.
Must the monarch be Christian/pretend to be? Is it possible to separate from the COE?
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Who implied that the Queen is a “good Christian”? In all charity, putting aside questions of material heresy, I have to assume that she is. But even if she is not, I was referring merely to her leadership and personal skills, and ability to exercise whatever authority she might still have.HomeschoolDad:
That’s true. I’m just saying that she’s not a good example if we want to talk about how Christianity accepts female bosses, if she’s a boss solely because there is no male heir and the monarchy had to go on. I do get that whether she’s a good boss or not is irrelevant, but i brought it up because of the implication that she was a good Christian. It’s kind of like how we see certain posts saying that of course a wife has authority over her husband!..if he is mentally incapacitated.
I would say that theoretically, “on paper”, she does have that kind of authority. What would happen if she exercised it, that is another story. She might — and I stress “might” — have the authority to say that the C of E is now in union with Rome, anyone who will not accept this, even if that “anyone” is a bishop or priest, will have to leave, and such clerics could presumably coalesce into their own “continuing non-Roman Anglican” church independent of the royal C of E. Real property issues could get interesting.
If I am understanding matters correctly, any monarch of the UK has to be at least a nominal Anglican. Someone with more expertise might be able to help me out here.
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I personally believe that she sincerely strives to be a good Christian…but I actually never said that she was. I simply said that I appreciate that in her, I as a Canadian, have a chief of state who talks about Christ and Christian values…something our own elected politicians never do. (No, we don’t even get the “God bless Canada” type token acknowledgement…Canadian politics are completely secular).
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Paddy1989
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She’s the head of a State and Church that was born out of rebellion to Catholicism, which worked very hard in persecuting and massacred Catholics everywhere especially in my home country, Ireland. In comparison to a militant secular society I agree she would hold much more in common to our values. . . .Paddy1989:
Oh come on…she’s the legal Chief of State of 16 sovereign nations. She’s also a rare example of a Christian leader who will actually talk about God and Christ in public…something I truly appreciate as a Canadian. Our elected politicians won’t mention the G- word, let alone the C- (Christ) word to save their life… its a breath of fresh air when I tune into Her Majesty’s annual Christmas address and hear her, as our Chief of State, say things like “let’s put the Christ back in Christmas”.
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That’s pretty harsh. You can’t hold her accountable for the sins of her ancestors. The USA was also traditionally a very anti-Catholic country…perhaps we should condemn all Americans, even the Catholic Americans, for being associated with a country with an anti-Catholic history?
Her Majesty was apparently quite close with Cardinal Hume, whom she referred to as “my cardinal”. She has met with multiple popes over the past decades and relations have been very positive. There are even a couple Catholic converts within the Royal Family - the Duchess of Kent and Lord Nicholas Windsor come to mind. This is not 1600.
Her Majesty was apparently quite close with Cardinal Hume, whom she referred to as “my cardinal”. She has met with multiple popes over the past decades and relations have been very positive. There are even a couple Catholic converts within the Royal Family - the Duchess of Kent and Lord Nicholas Windsor come to mind. This is not 1600.
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I just want to repeat the OP.
“Hey! This is a really quick question but I couldn’t find any real discussion about it. I don’t know much about Catholicism but are women allowed to be bosses? And have authority over men that way? I know the Bible has some verses about women not having authority over men but I’ve been told they just mean the priesthood. thanks!”
The OP’s question was simple. Does the Catholic Church allow women to be bosses.
The answer is also simple. Yes women are allowed to be bosses.
How did we get round to talking about the Queen or other non-Catholics. The religion of a woman is totally irrelevant to the question.
“Hey! This is a really quick question but I couldn’t find any real discussion about it. I don’t know much about Catholicism but are women allowed to be bosses? And have authority over men that way? I know the Bible has some verses about women not having authority over men but I’ve been told they just mean the priesthood. thanks!”
The OP’s question was simple. Does the Catholic Church allow women to be bosses.
The answer is also simple. Yes women are allowed to be bosses.
How did we get round to talking about the Queen or other non-Catholics. The religion of a woman is totally irrelevant to the question.
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