Are homosexuals born with this disorder?

[Bill_Pick]

Are homosexuals born with this disorder? I have never heard a definitive answer on this subject. I believe this behavior is not learned, but if it happens at birth, why would God place such a heavy cross on any human being he created?

 

[FK04US]

We don´t know. Science does not know either. Only God knows.

God bless,

 

[happilycatholic]

At the risk of making it sound like a disease or malfunction of some sort, which I don’t mean to do…

So many things are caused by biological anomolies, i.e. neurological, hormonal, etc.

I don’t think it’s choice. I don’t think a person can be aware of the cause themselves and so they believe it is choice.

 

[Robbinson]

We don´t know. Science does not know either. Only God knows.

God bless,

Exactly - any theories on the cause (genetic, behavioral, cultural or otherwise) are really just speculation.

Blessings,

Brian

 

[Feanor]

I think it is both nature and nurture but is not a choice- at least long-standing homosexual orientation.

The Church has said as much. Homosexuals are called to celibacy- it sounds harsh but that’s what the Church says.

 

[emarc]

when i was dating my wife, her younger brother would playfully wear her clothes, wear her make ups, and would exhibit some effeminate behaviour. this was in the 60s when most gays hid in the closet, but he turned out to be a fine man, became a doctor and got married. i just thought that if this happened to him today, he could easily be embracing that he’s different. it’s my opinion that because we share our parents genes, in some measure their man/woman characteristics, it’s which one we feed most that become of us. therefore, it’s a choice. just a thought.
God bless.

 

[rossum]

Are homosexuals born with this disorder? I have never heard a definitive answer on this subject. I believe this behavior is not learned, but if it happens at birth, why would God place such a heavy cross on any human being he created?

From what I have seen, homosexulas have about as much choice about being homosexual as heterosexuals have about being heterosexual. How much choice did you have?

Whether the choice is genetic or is formed in early childhood I do not know, but it usually seems to be pretty much fixed by puberty.

rossum

 

[Fisher]

Are homosexuals born with this disorder? I have never heard a definitive answer on this subject. I believe this behavior is not learned, but if it happens at birth, why would God place such a heavy cross on any human being he created?

We are all born sinners. But their is Hope and it is found in the blood of Jesus Christ.

Phil 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Hbr 10:10** By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. **

Hbr 10:11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins:

Hbr 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;

Hbr 10:13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool.

Hbr 10:14 For by **one offering **he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

 

[elvisman]

According to Christian author and ex-homosexual, Joe Dallas and Catholic therapist, Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, many transition to this behavior early on during their early years of childhood and that it can be diverted.
In fact, Dallas has converted many back to heterosexuality.

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**Unfortunately for many young people, homosexual experimentation has become ****fashionable ****and chic because of today’s ****blurred **sexual moirés.

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When I was in high school over 25 years ago, we knew of only 1 or 2 professed homosexual students.
**When I recently asked my confirmation students what the ratio was today at the same school – I was shocked to learn that ****many **of their friends often experiment with homosexuality and that is was considered to be “no big deal”.

 

[AlwaysAsking]

Hi, Bill

If you really want to hear some interesting responses, make friends with some actual gay people, friendly ordinary people with whom you have something in common, and then at an appropriate time, ask 'em!

I’m sorry that sounds snotty. What I want to say is, it isn’t productive to objectify people according to their brand of sexual sin. This has been a challenge for me since I became a Christian. I never wanted to believe there was anything wrong with homosexuality. It has taken me a long time to accept that what God says, goes, and nobody gets to show up and change the rules.

So I have to reconcile the gay community’s desire to believe that homosexuality is a trait one is born with (and I have seen my share of gay animals), with the many, many times I have heard the defensive statement “Yes, I was molested as a kid, but that’s not why I’m gay!” A lot of heartbreak in the gay community, and not just from social rejection.

I feel that when the bible says that Jesus was tempted in every way, that people who are struggling with their sexual orientation should take comfort in His victory against their temptation.

I think it’s worth noting that homosexuality is associated with spirituality in many cultures. My best personal guess is that Satan is responsible for all viruses, deformities, hormonal imbalances, etc., and that God really can work everything for good. I don’t know many people (except maybe missionaries in hostile countries?) who have been able to choose the cross they would bear.

I understand that this is off the OP but, I think Christianity owes the gay community a coherent message of hope, as well as the undistorted truth about God’s laws. Let’s not wait until the definitive analysis comes in!

 

[Feanor]

Plus, BEING gay is not a sin- DOING homosexual activities is a sin.

Plus there are many different sins- and truth be told- many gay people are likely more holy than I- that’s for sure!

 

[puzzleannie]

Are homosexuals born with this disorder? I have never heard a definitive answer on this subject. I believe this behavior is not learned, but if it happens at birth, why would God place such a heavy cross on any human being he created?

there is not a shred of scientific proof for this theory. There is some evidence that at least in some cases hormonal or other chemical influences on the mother can effect the baby, mostly from animal studies. There is no evidence at all of a genetic link or a “gay gene.” Not a whit. nada.

But I take serious issue with your last sentence. Do you really believe in a God who places heavy crosses on the humans he creates by deliberately endowing them with this or any disorder? Do you think God willed the Downs’ child to have this disordered chromosone? Do you think God willed my genetic predisposition for diabetes? Do you think God willed hundreds of mothers who were exposed to thalidomide to give birth to children without limbs? Very strange view of God.

Like all evil these are rooted in the creation that has been damaged through original sin and thus are not His will, but when they occur, he allows them because he knows they have the potential to bring the victims and their family closer to God because he uses them as vehicles for his immense grace.

 

[pismopal]

Are homosexuals born with this disorder? I have never heard a definitive answer on this subject. I believe this behavior is not learned, but if it happens at birth, why would God place such a heavy cross on any human being he created?

God did not put that cross on homosexuals any more than other difficult conditions dealt with by any other human. We don’t live in the Garden of Eden anymore…sadly.

 

[notself]

There most likely isn’t a single gay gene. Rather any number of genes could be responsible.

Homosexual behavior has been observed in many animal species. The preference for the same sex appears to happen as frequently in nature as it does in humans, who of course are part of nature.

Some selected species and groups from Wiki
Birds
Black swans
Gulls
Mallards
Penguins

Mammals
Amazon Dolphin
American Bison
Bonobo and other apes
Bottlenose Dolphins
Elephants
Humans
Japanese Macaque
Lions
Polecat
Sheep
Spotted Hyena

Others
Dragonflies
Fruit flies
Lizards

 

[Publisher]

And yet the gay men and women I personally know and worship with would not meet any of the above sterotypes.

Is a person “born gay”…true…we don’t know…

Is it hormonal…we don’t know…

Is it “nature” or “nurture” or a combo of both…we just don’t know…

Is it genetic…no hard support either way…

What we do know is that homosexuality is a natural state of sexuality, which we are just beginning to understand.

What we do know is that homosexuals who fall within the spectrum of “homosexual” their sexual orientation is beyond re-ordering…with no more success than ‘re-ordering’ heterosexuals.

That there are those who lived with same sex partners and later were “cured” to have opposite sex relationships simply prooves that bisexuality may be more prevelant than realized…and due to societal pressures and or religious convictions with intense enough motivation, some of these bisexual people who are involved in same sex relationships may choose to be in exclusively heterosexual relationships.

A good book which debunks the “Ex gay movement” is “Anything But Straight”…the poster boy for Exodus continues in the promiscous gay underground yet makes a decent living as a spokesman for Exodus…the founders of Exodus eventually became partners.

Sexuality does not fit into nice neat compartments…religious beliefs do not determine the science of sexuality…it may hinder the science of sexuality…but it does not determine it.

 

[SIA]

According to Christian author and ex-homosexual, Joe Dallas and Catholic therapist, Dr. Joseph Nicolosi, many transition to this behavior early on during their early years of childhood and that it can be diverted.
**In fact, Dallas has converted **many back to heterosexuality.

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**Unfortunately for many young people, homosexual experimentation has become ****fashionable ****and chic because of today’s ****blurred **sexual moirés.

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When I was in high school over 25 years ago, we knew of only 1 or 2 professed homosexual students.
**When I recently asked my confirmation students what the ratio was today at the same school – I was shocked to learn that ****many **of their friends often experiment with homosexuality and that is was considered to be “no big deal”.

You have to be smarter than this garbage you just posted here.

 

[yellowbicycle]

I know women who are lesbians because they were abused by their fathers and brothers when they were young. They are quite open in that they are attracted to men, but they fear them. Women are safer.

I know men who are gay who have been attracted to men since a very young age.

I know men and women both who have sex with, well, anyone. They’re not even particularly attracted to that specific person. They’re simply attracted to sex. Their motto on sex is really ‘I’ll take what I can get’. It really doesn’t matter from whom.

I know men who are ‘gay for pay’. Though their natural inclination is towards women, it’s the men who pay for sex acts. So, for those ten minutes or so, they’re gay.

I know a gay man who was in a homosexual marriage. Then they decided that they should be in an ‘open’ marriage. Then they figured out that being in an open marriage is just like not being married, so they divorced. Except that they’d never married in the first place. It’s all very confusing.

I know another gay man who has been celibate for…well, at LEAST ten years. He says all of these gay men act like women and if he wanted a woman he’d be straight. Duh. Besides, he’s a workaholic.

I kind of don’t understand the whole ‘it’s natural’ argument anyway. I was naturally attracted to men and so, slept with them. I was STILL naturally attracted to men and decided NOT to sleep with them. I don’t understand what my natural inclinations have to do with a decision I make.

Your actions matter, not your inclinations.

 

[chris_molter]

Are homosexuals born with this disorder? I have never heard a definitive answer on this subject. I believe this behavior is not learned, but if it happens at birth, why would God place such a heavy cross on any human being he created?

We don’t know if it’s nature or nurture. Probably a combination of the two. Ultimately it doesn’t matter. We all have our heavy crosses and SSA is no heavier than some others. Why should those with SSA get a free pass to indulge in their pet sins while we deny it to kleptomaniacs or nymphomaniacs?

 

[notself]

You have to be smarter than this garbage you just posted here.

Nicolosi is the guy who tells fathers, “Don’t hug your sons or some other guy will.”

Nicolosi’s program is religion disguised as science and does a disservice to both.

The National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs, that collects statistics on sexual violence of all kinds, states in their report that there was an 11% increase of sexual violence against homosexuals in 2007 over 2006. 67% of the calls to sexual violence help lines are from gays.

Gays are being beaten and killed just for being gay in this country. It is hardly something that heterosexual boys experiment with.

 

[yellowbicycle]

It is hardly something that heterosexual boys experiment with.

Do you seriously think that? In my sheltered little world, I can name more than a few who experimented with it. Why wouldn’t they?
Kids experiment with things WAY more dangerous than being gay. That doesn’t seem to stop them.