Are Horror games wrong?

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So for the past week I’ve been playing a bunch of Horror games

Some of which are:
-The Witch’s House (Goal: Escape a witch’s house)
-Amnesia: The Dark Descent (I’m not that deep into the story yet)
-and Ib (Goal: Get out of a Fabricated paint world)

Is it wrong to be playing games that have some connection to Evil witches or demons or sacrificial stuff?
I’ve really been enjoying these games so far.

But i need an answer. Please :((??
 
How old are you? If you are younger than eighteen, do your parents approve of you playing these games? Have you talked to your priest and have seen what his (name removed by moderator)ut is? There are a few specifications that need to be answered.

As for myself, I don’t particularly enjoy “gore” (yet I watch horror movies - but not very “gore” as in “suspense” and “fright”, I digress), but if you are not doing any wrong, realize it is simply fiction, and do not let it affect your physical or spiritual health, I don’t see a problem with it per se.
 
If you have to ask is it wrong, then yes its wrong… as is most of what kids read today in the promotion of superstition and ignorance.

the mind, has a tought distinguishing from fact and fiction, and reconizing, to be disciplined to stay away from evil, is a tough issue to do… its , aluring or addictive.

the mathimatical statistics says, that today children are falling into an abiss, a suport of addictions. todays captivating games of the youth, are propelling them to an 80 addiction rate of bad addcitions (drugs/alcohol)is the current thought…

employers are seeing, a new wave generation devoid of work ethic, they cant focus to work or have any desire, they are, brain dead… texting is seen in sports, as a failure now to communicate. addictions that already, have sent the mind awray.
 
Tolkien rather enjoyed the fiction of Robert E. Howard (Conan the Barbarian). Why does that matter? Because Howard’s writings were heavily influenced by his atheism and the nihilistic writings of H.P. Lovecraft, himself an avowed atheist. There isn’t anything inherently wrong with the horror genre or video games. One must simply ask themselves a few questions.

Immacolata has already asked most of the important questions. The only other one that comes immediately to mind is; Do you have any mental illness or history of mental illness? Video games alone don’t cause violence or satanism and such, but combined with any number of disorders, can trigger a potentially dangerous mental breakdown. I am thinking in particular of schizophrenia though other disorders may very well be exacerbated by video games.

Oh, this just occurred to me; Ask yourself why you are playing these games and for how long out of your day. For some people, violence is just as pornographic as nudity. If this be the case, then violence (even simulated) needs to be avoided. Other people play as a means to avoid the real world. All games are escapism to some degree, but when your real life suffers for it, a reevaluation is in order.

Ultimately, like most things in life, video games are harmless fun. It’s when we lose sight of what is important and start obsessing over a hobby to escape our real lives that we enter dangerous waters. But video games are not alone in this, just about any hobby may be abused in this way.
 
How old are you? If you are younger than eighteen, do your parents approve of you playing these games? Have you talked to your priest and have seen what his (name removed by moderator)ut is? There are a few specifications that need to be answered.

As for myself, I don’t particularly enjoy “gore” (yet I watch horror movies - but not very “gore” as in “suspense” and “fright”, I digress), but if you are not doing any wrong, realize it is simply fiction, and do not let it affect your physical or spiritual health, I don’t see a problem with it per se.
I am allowed to play these games just so long as I don’t play in front of the little ones.

Thanks for the answer.
Really eased my nerves 😉

and NO i do not intend on practicing the things i do in a virtual simulation in the real world 😃
 
If you have to ask is it wrong, then yes its wrong… as is most of what kids read today in the promotion of superstition and ignorance.

the mind, has a tought distinguishing from fact and fiction, and reconizing, to be disciplined to stay away from evil, is a tough issue to do… its , aluring or addictive.

the mathimatical statistics says, that today children are falling into an abiss, a suport of addictions. todays captivating games of the youth, are propelling them to an 80 addiction rate of bad addcitions (drugs/alcohol)is the current thought…

employers are seeing, a new wave generation devoid of work ethic, they cant focus to work or have any desire, they are, brain dead… texting is seen in sports, as a failure now to communicate. addictions that already, have sent the mind awray.
Asking whether something is wrong or not does not automatically identify it as sinful. Mankind would have no need for philosophy nor indeed God if it were that simple.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_15101998_fides-et-ratio_en.html

Your appeal to math as “proof” of youthful degeneration doesn’t hold water, least of all because you fail to cite any source or provide any actual math.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_statistics

I can’t help but notice your assumption that Antonio_022 is a minor. His profile only lists him as Catholic, there is no birthday there. The majority of gamers today are in their mid twenties or early thirties (like me).theesa.com/facts/index.asp

Furthermore, even if he is a minor, I would suggest reading “Engaging a New Generation” by Frank Mercadante
amazon.com/Engaging-New-Generation-Reaching-Catholic/dp/1592767222

Try not to be so dismissive of others, Antonio_022 is looking for constructive advice in his faith formation and you dismissed him out of hand with a soapbox diatribe that contributed little if anything. Your view of teens today and their spiritual state is sadly uninformed and one of the reasons Catholic youth ministries is suffering so much in America today.
 
Oh, this just occurred to me; Ask yourself why you are playing these games and for how long out of your day.
I play these games because… Well, that’s what I’m into 🙂

I like a good scare and I enjoy mysterious stories and atmospheres

The gore? I’d much rather run from the monster hunting me down than care about any of that :o

For how long out of my day? When I have the time…
And since I’m on break, I have most of the day 😃 (I’m not particularly busy for the next 2 weeks)

Thanks for the good answers!
Now I can play without feeling a stroke of worry or guilt 😃

God bless and Have a Happy New Year!
You’ll be in my prayer tonight!
 
Yes, I think anything horror and gore, including games, is wrong. Jesus asks us to stay away from evil and those things are nothing but evil.
 
“As a man thinks, so is he.”
Be sure this is the programming you wish to enter into your subconscious.
The subconscious mind is the faithful servant of the conscious; we become what we think.
 
“As a man thinks, so is he.”
Be sure this is the programming you wish to enter into your subconscious.
The subconscious mind is the faithful servant of the conscious; we become what we think.
No, not really. People would see no point in getting intoxicated if that were the case.
nytimes.com/2007/07/31/health/psychology/31subl.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

I might be mistaken, so feel free to correct me if so.

It seems you are bringing forth the old ‘brainwashing’ argument that has been bandied back and forth ever since Elvis started swaying his hips on tv. I find the argument that a fictional exercise can rob us of free will and turn us into sinners to be far more dangerous than any video game yet released. Claiming that some piece of popular media is to blame for human behavior is a cop out that abrogates the claimant from responsibility.

“The movies made me do it!”

“It’s rap music’s fault, I didn’t make it, so I couldn’t have helped him if I wanted to.”

“Those video games are to blame. My public and private moral examples had nothing to do with his actions.”

vatican.va/archive/ccc_css/archive/catechism/p3s1c1a4.htm

Lets examine all three parts;
  1. The Object. The objective, in this case is simply to entertain oneself. This is done at no expense to another (unlike, say, pornography). While not objectively good, it is not objectively evil either. Its moral neutrality is the reason it is relegated to a hobby and not a way of life.
  2. The Intent. Again, his stated intent is to be entertained. I would point out here that the Sabbath was made for our benefit and once more, why the hobby is fine should it remain a hobby.
  3. The Circumstances. So long as it is enjoyed in moderation and his relationships and duties do not suffer from it, yet again there is no sin to be found here.
Like any pastime, this one becomes sinful only in the presence of excess or malicious intent.
 
There’s nothing wrong with horror per say but there’s a number of rules I put on horror.
  1. is it violent for violets sake? Example is it shoving your face in gore because gore is cool?
  2. is there a plot > to gore ratio. Meaning is there more storyline then there is gore.
  3. nudity, is there pointless sex and nudity?
I liked Amnesia the dark Descent because its an aged graphic engine and there’s now where nearly as much gore as there is silent lonely forsaken depression trying to escape a castle.

I’m also a huge fan of Limbo. It’s a 2D back lite side scroller or scariness such I have rarely seen.

Both game are way more plot and less gore no nudes
 
I am allowed to play these games just so long as I don’t play in front of the little ones.

Thanks for the answer.
Really eased my nerves 😉

and NO i do not intend on practicing the things i do in a virtual simulation in the real world 😃
As long as your parents approve, as long as you do not play any “heavy” games in front of children, and you don’t intend on acting on the things you see/do in fictional, virtual simulation in the real world, I don’t see a problem with it. This, however, is a good question to answer:
Do you have any mental illness or history of mental illness? Video games alone don’t cause violence or satanism and such, but combined with any number of disorders, can trigger a potentially dangerous mental breakdown. I am thinking in particular of schizophrenia though other disorders may very well be exacerbated by video games.
If you have a history of mental illness (you might not, if you don’t then you can just disregard this), it might be best to not play violent games. But, then again, you may not have anything and this question is for naught.

God bless.
 
Yes, I think anything horror and gore, including games, is wrong. Jesus asks us to stay away from evil and those things are nothing but evil.
I don’t think you see where I’m coming from 😦

I’m not talking about those ‘Manhunt’ gore games or those GTA violence “kill-em-all” games.

Yes, there is evil in these games. Evil powers and dark stories but there is good in these games and it triumphs. Sure you would fail once or twice but there is still light where there is evil.

LIMBO is a very popular Horror game.

Yes, there is a bit of violence but the goal of the boy is not to succumb to this dark world. He is trying to save his sister. There was love in this kid. You wouldn’t find love in something that was evil would you?
 
Fair enough. Not the first time nor likely to be the last that I’ve been corrected on Tolkien.😛
 
On a related side note Limbo is on for three US dollars on steam today if anyone cares.
 
Well according to my studies, it is not wrong as long as the games don’t try to get you to do any form of satanic worship.

Most people said it is not wrong unless it affects your health or spiritual lifestyle.
One person said it is wrong but he is banned so I would not trust or count that.
 
Yes, I think anything horror and gore, including games, is wrong. Jesus asks us to stay away from evil and those things are nothing but evil.
I’m sorry but video games are mostly fictional and sometimes have roots in the real world with places and people. You need to be able to know what is real and not though that is very important.
 
Asking whether something is wrong or not does not automatically identify it as sinful. Mankind would have no need for philosophy nor indeed God if it were that simple.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_15101998_fides-et-ratio_en.html

Your appeal to math as “proof” of youthful degeneration doesn’t hold water, least of all because you fail to cite any source or provide any actual math.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misuse_of_statistics

I can’t help but notice your assumption that Antonio_022 is a minor. His profile only lists him as Catholic, there is no birthday there. The majority of gamers today are in their mid twenties or early thirties (like me).theesa.com/facts/index.asp

Furthermore, even if he is a minor, I would suggest reading “Engaging a New Generation” by Frank Mercadante
amazon.com/Engaging-New-Generation-Reaching-Catholic/dp/1592767222

Try not to be so dismissive of others, Antonio_022 is looking for constructive advice in his faith formation and you dismissed him out of hand with a soapbox diatribe that contributed little if anything. Your view of teens today and their spiritual state is sadly uninformed and one of the reasons Catholic youth ministries is suffering so much in America today.
It’s really too bad we can’t be sitting in a room together talking, instead of on the internet. No one really knows or gets to know, the other person(s).

I work in the media. I’ve learned about age levels, who is the primary demographic for what, unintended secondary consequences and so on. A quick look at a number of trade publications can give anybody a snapshot of what’s being sold to any age group.

The last sentence, above, about Catholic youth ministries, is very broad brush. Teens have parents who have lived through bad cultural experiences/experiments.

Horror games come in many different forms. Some are simple and just meant for fun, others are more complex and so on. How many people in their teens know who H.P. Lovecraft or Robert E. Howard were? They’ve just bought a game, they want to have fun. We have a good number of these games from Kickstarter projects, and they range from scary and fun to questionable. Take Dungeons & Dragons. Are the spells “real.” No, not if you’re informed, but to the average parent: who knows? They look and sound real or realistic. So why give this to your teen? Why not warn him about it?

Let’s face it. Catholics know bad influences can come from anywhere. No, a game will not make you do something but you must be honest about it. I monitor the media spectrum as part of my job. Game fiction, book fiction, TV fiction, etc… All I’m seeing is dark, dark and more dark, heroes who make deals with the bad guys presented as “I’ll do this bad thing to eliminate this other bad thing or for a good end.” That’s not a hero.

In video/computer games, a coworker showed me part of a new game. There is a scene where a young lady is laying on an old-style, recliner piece of furniture. The camera pans past them. There is a vase on a table stand. Suddenly, I hear these feminine sounds, the vase starts rocking back and forth, until it finally falls over. The camera pans back on the character and his quest continues. Seriously?

More profanity on TV, nudity in games, perversion in games. Each game needs to be judged on its own merits, but: if it contains anything morally offensive or very graphic violence (chopping off hands on TV is starting up), then dump it.

It is not “modern” to enjoy immoral or almost anything goes anything. Nudity, out. Profanity, out. Violence for defense, not revenge, but not with blood and guts flying. “Pushing the envelope” usually means something bad is desired. To become acceptable or average or normal.

The full phrase is: “Pushing the envelope of what people find acceptable.” Which people? Certainly not the people creating any kind of fiction who already think nudity, partial nudity, sexual situations, profanity and lots of blood and gore are OK. They are OK with it. They want you to be OK with it.

I’ve spent decades watching Western culture gradually, little by little, being poisoned. All anyone has to do is go back 40 or so years and see for yourself.

Ed
 
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