Are Mormons allowed to drink...

[arieh0310]

picking points we belive he is a martyr. So for our belief system he is. thank you for your second qoute very fair minded. I seem to remember that some of the early aposles escaped from prision. what about peter and his sword.

When Peter cut off the ear of the high priest’s servant he was rebuked by Jesus. When Peter escaped from prison he didn’t know what he was doing, he thought it was a vision. When Paul and Silas were in prison and an earthquake opened all the doors they remained where they were. They didn’t take matters into their own hands but left their fates to God’s providence.

 

[paul_barlow]

arieh0310:

When Peter cut off the ear of the high priest’s servant he was rebuked by Jesus. When Peter escaped from prison he didn’t know what he was doing, he thought it was a vision. When Paul and Silas were in prison and an earthquake opened all the doors they remained where they were. They didn’t take matters into their own hands but left their fates to God’s providence.

Did they stay in the prison or walk out. it’s easy to say i will lay my life down very diffrent to do it.

 

[flameburns623]

PaulDupre:

Oh BJ,
If your bishop finds out that you drink alcohol, he will take away your temple recommend, drop you from whatever callings you may have, and probably disfellowship you. That is more than a friendly admonition. You are commanded under threat of losing your membership privileges.

That’s not to mention the threat of being shunned by the other members.

Paul

Paul:

The manual on LDS church discipline explicitly excludes disfellowshipping persons for the failure to abide by the Word of Wisdom. One also will not be disfellowshipped for inactivity, nor for attending or joining another church, although one is free to have one’s name expunged from the LDS rolls if one chooses. The LDS Church is really NOT all that aggressive about instigating Church discipline unless one is clearly in open defiance of the Church. Apostasy, adultery, criminal activity are much more likely to lead to disfellowshipping or excommunication.

One WOULD be subject to having one’s Temple recomend removed if one admits to the use of alcohol; and it is not unlikely that one might be excluded from higher Church offices–one could not serve on a Elder’s Quroum Presidency or a ward Bishopric for example if one is known to use alcohol. On the other hand, if one’s ‘office’ is that of Ward librarian or music leader–the situation would more likely be handled through counseling. One MIGHT be encouraged to suspend one’s public participation in Ward activities–leading prayers, bearing public testimony, etcetera. Much more rarely–one might be asked to discontinue doing one’s Home-Teaching or Visiting-Teaching activities.

Shunning is not heavily practiced in the contemporary LDS Church. The members are exhorted to treat wayward members with love and respect, and to do what they can to encourage them to do better. The LDS Church seems to want to strike a balance between taking a strong stand on moral values–they want all members to KNOW what the Church clearly deems wrong behavior–and leaving the door open to those who have fallen into error temporarily and who may need encouragement and help to live the Christian life.