Are Mormons and Jehovah's Witnesses Christian?

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What do you believe about his nature during the years he was on earth?
Partly divine (i.e., had power over death, etc.), partly human (e.i, had the ability to die, etc.) Becoming fully divine was a process for Him per these verses:

D&C 93:11-13

11 And I, John, bear record that I beheld his glory, as the glory of the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth, even the Spirit of truth, which came and dwelt in the flesh, and dwelt among us.

12 And I, John, saw that he received not of the fulness at the first, but received grace for grace;

13 And he received not of the fulness at first, but continued from grace to grace, until he received a fulness;

I hope this helps…
 
This is a true statement.

This is a false statement.

This is a true statement. We believe He is now only fully divine.

This is a false statement.
But you deny that Christ is of one being with the father (along with the Holy Spirit) in the form of the Trinity. You also deny that Christ is co-eternal with the father from before the world, no?
 
But you deny that Christ is of one being with the father (along with the Holy Spirit) in the form of the Trinity. You also deny that Christ is co-eternal with the father from before the world, no?
Actually, LDS do believe that the Father, Son, and Spirit are ONE. We also believe that the Father and Son are both eternal.

What LDS disagree with is that the Father and Son are one via a shared substance.
 
Actually, LDS do believe that the Father, Son, and Spirit are ONE. We also believe that the Father and Son are both eternal.

What LDS disagree with is that the Father and Son are one via a shared substance.
And what about the Holy Spirit? Eternal? A person?

LOL - I’m just asking but for some reason those questions look hostile when i reread that line.
 
Actually, LDS do believe that the Father, Son, and Spirit are ONE. We also believe that the Father and Son are both eternal.
Are they eternal in a different way than everyone is eternal, in LDS theology?
 
Actually, LDS do believe that the Father, Son, and Spirit are ONE. We also believe that the Father and Son are both eternal.

What LDS disagree with is that the Father and Son are one via a shared substance.
So explain that to me. How are God and Christ “one” yet they don’t share the same substance? Doesn’t one logically have to follow from the other?

And by eternal understand I meant that Christ was not created by God after creation. Christ always existed with the father.
 
What do you believe about his nature during the years he was on earth?
Partly divine (i.e., had power over death, etc.), partly human (e.i, had the ability to die, etc.) Becoming fully divine was a process for Him per these verses:

D&C 93:11-13

11 And I, John, bear record that I beheld his glory, as the glory of the Only Begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth, even the Spirit of truth, which came and dwelt in the flesh, and dwelt among us.

12 And I, John, saw that he received not of the fulness at the first, but received grace for grace;

13 And he received not of the fulness at first, but continued from grace to grace, until he received a fulness;

I hope this helps…
ajcstr - The D&C is another book scripture for the LDS. They use this to, as well as other strictly LDS scripture to prove their theology.

They believe all men (only men) have the ability to obtain godhood if they do the right things. So in reality they believe Jesus became a god because he obtain exaltation. Although not being married may be a problem as they believe a man must be married to obtain exaltation.
 
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… through “normal” means. As in God & Mary had intercourse and Jesus was conceived.
This is a false statement.
Mormon apostle Bruce McConkie, in perhaps the most explicit denial of the virgin birth, wrote, "Christ was begotten by an immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers.” (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, p. 547)
 
Mormon apostle Bruce McConkie, in perhaps the most explicit denial of the virgin birth, wrote, "Christ was begotten by an immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers.” (Mormon Doctrine, 1966, p. 547)
Which can be done without sex, even by us flimsy humans.
 
Which can be done without sex, even by us flimsy humans.
Seriously, a father impregnating their own daughter via any medical means, is repulsive.

Our God did not place his seed in Mary. The Conception was a miracle not a medical procedure.
 
So explain that to me. How are God and Christ “one” yet they don’t share the same substance? Doesn’t one logically have to follow from the other?
Such logic does not flow at all. For example: John 17:21 says “That they all may be one; as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that you have sent me.”
Are we to be one with the Father through co-substantation? That doesn’t make any sense. Rather, ONE In belief in God, Goodness, Truth, etc.
And by eternal understand I meant that Christ was not created by God after creation. Christ always existed with the father.
LDS believe that.
 
Seriously, a father impregnating their own daughter via any artificial means, is repulsive.

Our God did not place his seed in Mary. The Conception was a miracle not a medical procedure.
An no one is arguing with the miracleness of it.
 
And what is your position on the matter?
Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit, without human (or divine) seed.

What is the miracle of the conception, if Jesus’ conception was like any man’s and even us paltry humans can do it? What is your definition of miracle?
 
And by eternal understand I meant that Christ was not created by God after creation. Christ always existed with the father.
LDS believe that.
What do you mean? When you say that LDS believe that “Christ was not created by God after creation” (not sure what he means by “after creation”), do you believe that Christ is the literal firstborn spirit child of the Father (and Heavenly Mother)?

When you say that LDS believe that “Christ always existed with the Father”, do you believe that they have eternally existed as the Godhead? Do you believe that Christ is eternal in a different way than how we are all eternal (according to LDS theology)?
 
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