I would agree that they believe in a divinity but not the trinity. Their other beliefs in polytheism ie that we have a heavenly mother and that man can become gods is the other reason that the church can not accept the validity of their baptism.
Mormon’s do believe that Jesus is our Lord & Saviour. THe JW’s, to my understanding, do not believe in the divinity of Christ. At least mormons accept that the " three Gods" are one in purpose, too bad not in one God
first of all…this is a discussion forum…we are discussing “are mormons christians” people are expressing their opinions as part of the discussion…not necessarily passing judgement…now…lets take the correct definition of salvation and apply it to the mormons…first of all…they don’t believe in the all atoning blood of christ…that what christ did on the christ was not all atoning…therefor negating the works of christ…but instead they rest their faith in the blood in the garden of gethsemane…we all know that you have to believe in your heart and confess with your mouth that christ died for your sins and rose again…that christs death was the lamb of god that was slain to save mankind…that all those that accept him as their lord and savior…now…a mormon will tell you that…christ did die…but our sins were taken in the garden…and that its not just faith alone that your saved…you have to have works in order to be saved…thus no mormon ever knows if he’s saved or not…hence this doctrine works against scripture “we know were saved cause we love the brethren” they don’t have that assurance cause they have not received the true jesus…the true gospel…jesus is “God”…next they make light the authenticity and infalliability of the bible…saying well.only if its translated correctly…(in which their minds can never be done, have yet talked to a mormon that believed all the words in the bible and authentic scripture)…mormons have taken the bible and made it lower than the book of mormon…thus creating their own system of beliefs that carry more weight than the traditional doctrines of the bible…joseph smith himself changed words in the bible thousands of times saying it was translated wrong…and in return it contradicted itself… …this may be a little off topic but,…you know something isn’t right when you hear things like…i’m going to be a god someday…or hope that they will…or working towards it…fact is…there is only one god…and always will be one god…father,son,holy spirit = one god…
They believe that Jesus and Michael (born as Adam) created the Earth according to God’s plan and that the Holy Ghost had no hand in it.
Well, now we go into this: if the Mormons hold that God was man first and became God later, as I said earlier, this defies the idea of God as Creator, for if He was man first, who created him? In order to have a Creator, one must have the infinite and eternal. And yet in Mormonism, if God was man first then he began necessarily as a finite being.
And it took the Catholics 400 years to figure this out? How accurate can it be if they couldn’t agree for 400 years? You really think that these men know beyond a shadow of a doubt what they believe? That is why it is called a Mystery, because it doesn’t make sense.
BJ
No actually it did not take the Catholic Church 400 years to figure this out. God Himself was not first man and then God. He did not create himself as he is infinite. he was, is and always will be God, not man. this is our stance. And we have said so for two thousand years,not 400.And it took the Catholics 400 years to figure this out? How accurate can it be if they couldn’t agree for 400 years? You really think that these men know beyond a shadow of a doubt what they believe? That is why it is called a Mystery, because it doesn’t make sense.
The same with my husband’s case of acceptance back into the Catholic Church, non of you in the forum agree with the Sacramento, Tribunal or his parish priest, so now he will not take the Eucharist or go to confession again until he gets an official answer.
I never realized the discrepancies in the Catholic Church until I came into this forum. Now, I see none of you agree on anything you believe and all have different explanations of the same thing. Why can’t you use common sense? Wait I can answer that, it is as my husband says, “Because it is a mystery” so that means it will never make sense to you or anyone else because it isn’t supposed to make sense and we are not supposed to know and understand our Father in Heaven.
I would rather have my misunderstanding of God as my Father, and Jesus Christ as His son, my Saviour, Lord, and Redeemer and the Holy Spirit as the mediator and messenger, who speaks to my soul and guides me in my daily life, than all of your hocus pocus, true understanding mystery.
Even in my misunderstanding, He understands my true intent and answers my prayers as if I were a Catholic. Imagine that, He cares about Mormons too. We are all His children, no matter if we do not all know Him in the same way.
Imagine this B.J.- he cares about us Catholics too, and he answers our prayers as well even though he does not require us to Gods, a most difficult challenge at best and every once in a while we get to have a cup of coffee or a coke and all is not lost. He loves us ordinary Catholic human beings as well.Just imagine. And he loves us with all of our hocus pocus as well. All we have to do is the very best we can- but we don’t have to God. He has never told us to do that.And it took the Catholics 400 years to figure this out? How accurate can it be if they couldn’t agree for 400 years? You really think that these men know beyond a shadow of a doubt what they believe? That is why it is called a Mystery, because it doesn’t make sense.
The same with my husband’s case of acceptance back into the Catholic Church, non of you in the forum agree with the Sacramento, Tribunal or his parish priest, so now he will not take the Eucharist or go to confession again until he gets an official answer.
I never realized the discrepancies in the Catholic Church until I came into this forum. Now, I see none of you agree on anything you believe and all have different explanations of the same thing. Why can’t you use common sense? Wait I can answer that, it is as my husband says, “Because it is a mystery” so that means it will never make sense to you or anyone else because it isn’t supposed to make sense and we are not supposed to know and understand our Father in Heaven.
I would rather have my misunderstanding of God as my Father, and Jesus Christ as His son, my Saviour, Lord, and Redeemer and the Holy Spirit as the mediator and messenger, who speaks to my soul and guides me in my daily life, than all of your hocus pocus, true understanding mystery.
Even in my misunderstanding, He understands my true intent and answers my prayers as if I were a Catholic. Imagine that, He cares about Mormons too. We are all His children, no matter if we do not all know Him in the same way.