Are Mormons Christians

[Porknpie]

Nmgauss,

My (name removed by moderator)ut here would be that Mormons evangelize Christians and mislead those that they talk to in their words, positioning themselves as Christians when they are not. As such, they preach a false gospel and risk leading souls away from the eternal salvation with God.

That’s one reason why the truth matters.

The whole Mormon milk before meat philosophy is by definition deceptive, is a form of lying and is thus un-Christian. Contrast this with the Catholic Church and RCIA for Adults which takes approximately 8 months of education before becoming a member of the Church. Milk and meat before you decide.

 

[Judas_Thaddeus]

I don’t know the purpose of asking whether Mormons are Christians. What difference does it make one way or the other? If they are not, are they to be ostracized from the huge crowd of various flavors of Christianity? If they are, what purpose does it serve other than to create a hostile attitude toward a group whose achievements are admired across the world.
If there is a desire to divide rather than unite, this flies in direct opposition to what Jesus taught. The object seems to be to hate, not love. Or is it jealousy?
The same attitude was promoted toward Jews in Europe. They were different and therefore did not belong.

I know that it isn’t important to you, but it is important to know what Truth is. Mormons used
to, as has been said here, differentiate themselves from Christians, not identify themselves
as Christians, because they knew well the differences. Now today they do call themselves
Christians. Why? To pull real Christians away from the Cross and into their temples.

If I may borrow a line from Star Wars, “IT’S A TRAP!” (You have to imagine me with a squid
head). Christians who are seeking may bump into a missionary or do very limited research
on Mormonism, find it attractive, good family values, family in heaven, and how it identifies
itself as ‘Christian.’ It all starts very sounding Christian-like, then it only gets more strange
along the way, water isn’t immediately boiling, but slowly heats up.

It is therefore necessary to fervently express the truth that Mormonism is not Christianity
and that it will lead people away from the presence of God and Christ FOREVER !!! That
is really the main purpose here in revealing Mormonism for what it really is.

It so does not oppose what Jesus taught. Embracing religions that teach contrary
to what Christianity is and what Jesus taught WOULD BE opposing not only what
Jesus taught, but Jesus Himself, Alpha and Omega sir !

The point of it all is not to alienate or attack the Mormons, but MormonISM,
for it stands as a threat against the entire Christian Community around the
world. They are already building a temple in Rome, and despite doctrinally
having disdain for the Cross, it is rumored that their new temple will bear
crosses in an attempt to draw in the Roman Catholics.

This is spiritual warfare, a battle of the faiths, and serious true Christians will not let the
Mormons lead souls away from Christ Jesus without a fight. No, not talking physical vi-
olence, give me a break, for our weapon is not the sword, but the Word of God.

 

[nmgauss]

I know that it isn’t important to you, but it is important to know what Truth is. Mormons used
to, as has been said here, differentiate themselves from Christians, not identify themselves
as Christians, because they knew well the differences. Now today they do call themselves
Christians. Why? To pull real Christians away from the Cross and into their temples.

If I may borrow a line from Star Wars, “IT’S A TRAP!” (You have to imagine me with a squid
head). Christians who are seeking may bump into a missionary or do very limited research
on Mormonism, find it attractive, good family values, family in heaven, and how it identifies
itself as ‘Christian.’ It all starts very sounding Christian-like, then it only gets more strange
along the way, water isn’t immediately boiling, but slowly heats up.

It is therefore necessary to fervently express the truth that Mormonism is not Christianity
and that it will lead people away from the presence of God and Christ FOREVER !!! That
is really the main purpose here in revealing Mormonism for what it really is.

It so does not oppose what Jesus taught. Embracing religions that teach contrary
to what Christianity is and what Jesus taught WOULD BE opposing not only what
Jesus taught, but Jesus Himself, Alpha and Omega sir !

The point of it all is not to alienate or attack the Mormons, but MormonISM,
for it stands as a threat against the entire Christian Community around the
world. They are already building a temple in Rome, and despite doctrinally
having disdain for the Cross, it is rumored that their new temple will bear
crosses in an attempt to draw in the Roman Catholics.

This is spiritual warfare, a battle of the faiths, and serious true Christians will not let the
Mormons lead souls away from Christ Jesus without a fight. No, not talking physical vi-
olence, give me a break, for our weapon is not the sword, but the Word of God.

 

[nmgauss]

So the attitude here is religious warfare. Catholics feel threatened so they are on the war path against Mormons!. Onward Christian Soldiers, fighting as to war! Reminds me of the Huguenot Calvinist movement in France, which resulted in the slaughter of 500,000 people. Also reminds me of the Northern Ireland violence between Catholics and Protestants.

Aren’t we all children of God? So Roman Catholicism loses a few converts: Big Deal! Is it the calling of all defenders of the faith to warn people who stray from the fold that they are being misled and that a concerted strident effort must be made to warn them of their folly? I doubt that Jesus would approve of this internecine bickering.

 

[Judas_Thaddeus]

So the attitude here is religious warfare. Catholics feel threatened so they are on the war path against Mormons!. Onward Christian Soldiers, fighting as to war! Reminds me of the Huguenot Calvinist movement in France, which resulted in the slaughter of 500,000 people. Also reminds me of the Northern Ireland violence between Catholics and Protestants.

Mormonism isn’t just a threat against the Roman Catholic Church, it is to ALL of
Christianity, and your mocking the issue is so not appreciated. You cannot com-
pare this “Spiritual Warfare” I mentioned to actual violent events, especially when
I have already made this statement:

No, not talking physical violence, give me
a break, for our weapon is not the sword,
but the Word of God.

Cheater.

Aren’t we all children of God? So Roman Catholicism loses a few converts: Big Deal! Is it the calling of all defenders of the faith to warn people who stray from the fold that they are being misled and that a concerted strident effort must be made to warn them of their folly? I doubt that Jesus would approve of this internecine bickering.

No, we are not all children of God by default, but only when we accept the True Jesus Christ, God–
Incarnate, who died for all the sins of the world. You mock also the losing of some Catholics and e-
ven other Christian brothers and sisters, exclaiming ‘‘Big Deal!’’, but we know where the Mormon re-
ligion is leading people, and we don’t want anybody, not even the Mormons, to go there!!! And YES
it is so “the calling for all defenders of the faith to warn people who stray from the fold that they are
being misled and that a concerted strident effort must be made to warn them of their folly” and that
is EXACTLY what Jesus Christ expects of all who believe on him and entrust their salvation to him.They that forsake the law praise the wicked **: **
but such as keep the law contend with them.

• (Proverbs 28:4)

Dearly beloved, taking all care to write un**–**
to you concerning your common salvation,
I was under a necessity to write unto you:
to beseech you to contend earnestly for
the faith once delivered to the saints.

• (Jude 1:4)

 

[Truth_Faith13]

I don’t know the purpose of asking whether Mormons are Christians. What difference does it make one way or the other? If they are not, are they to be ostracized from the huge crowd of various flavors of Christianity? If they are, what purpose does it serve other than to create a hostile attitude toward a group whose achievements are admired across the world.

If there is a desire to divide rather than unite, this flies in direct opposition to what Jesus taught. The object seems to be to hate, not love. Or is it jealousy?

The same attitude was promoted toward Jews in Europe. They were different and therefore did not belong.

Mormons ostracise themselves…when I left Mormonism, every member deleted me from Facebook and I haven’t seen or spoken to them since. Three years of friendships gone just like that, just because I didn’t believe the same thing they did anymore.

The difference with the Jews is they were persecuted for their beliefs and horribly treated. Ok so Christians don’t agree with the Mormons beliefs etc, but they aren’t persecuted. Mormons are the ones who persecute…have you ever heard of the mountains meadows massacre? Go google it!

Mormons are very friendly while they are trying to convert you…but they are wolves in sheeps clothing, its not true Christ like behaviour, its not true friendship. Mormons are quite happy in their own little world, all the other religious groups being part of the great apostasy. I do see hatred, but its not from the Christians, its from the Mormons. Which as you say is why I don’t think they are Christians as its not Christ Like behaviour.

 

[Stephen168]

I don’t know the purpose of asking whether Mormons are Christians. What difference does it make one way or the other?

the purpose of asking questions is to to learn. We know that Mormons are not Christians. The difference only matters to you. Why do you not what to learn?

If they are not, are they to be ostracized from the huge crowd of various flavors of Christianity?

No, it is not right for you to ostracize people just because they are different like Mormons do.

If they are, what purpose does it serve other than to create a hostile attitude toward a group whose achievements are admired across the world.

Mormonism is based on a ‘hostile attitude toward’ Christians in General and the Catholic Church specifically. The purpose seemed to be to get money from converts.

If there is a desire to divide rather than unite, this flies in direct opposition to what Jesus taught. The object seems to be to hate, not love. Or is it jealousy?

Yes, I think Mormonism is jealous of the size and truth of the Catholic Church.

The same attitude was promoted toward Jews in Europe. They were different and therefore did not belong.

Mormonism thinks their book is about the Jews. Of course there is no scientific evidence for that claim.

 

[TexanKnight]

So the attitude here is religious warfare. Catholics feel threatened so they are on the war path against Mormons!. Onward Christian Soldiers, fighting as to war! Reminds me of the Huguenot Calvinist movement in France, which resulted in the slaughter of 500,000 people. Also reminds me of the Northern Ireland violence between Catholics and Protestants.

Aren’t we all children of God? So Roman Catholicism loses a few converts: Big Deal! Is it the calling of all defenders of the faith to warn people who stray from the fold that they are being misled and that a concerted strident effort must be made to warn them of their folly? I doubt that Jesus would approve of this internecine bickering.

really? that the best you could come up with?

It has nothing to do with war or converts. We are instructed by Jesus to warn and correct false teachings and be wary of false prophets.

So we do.

You can stop the dramatic silliness

 

[Stephen168]

Reminds me of the Huguenot Calvinist movement in France, which resulted in the slaughter of 500,000 people.

you misquoted Wikipedia. I’m not sure how this proves Mormons are Christian. This is the second time you invented stories about the Catholic Church; why? It seems so irrational and hateful. Is this the teaching of your non-denomination? Does your non-denomination allow blacks to be priests?

 

[Miriam1947]

Aren’t we all children of God? **So Roman Catholicism loses a few converts: Big Deal! ** Is it the calling of all defenders of the faith to warn people who stray from the fold that they are being misled and that a concerted strident effort must be made to warn them of their folly? I doubt that Jesus would approve of this internecine bickering.

So it isn’t a big deal if a Mormon converts to Catholicism? That’s wonderful; maybe now Mormons will stop shunning family members who leave LDS for a Christian religion.

 

[iepuras]

I don’t know the purpose of asking whether Mormons are Christians. What difference does it make one way or the other? If they are not, are they to be ostracized from the huge crowd of various flavors of Christianity? If they are, what purpose does it serve other than to create a hostile attitude toward a group whose achievements are admired across the world.

If there is a desire to divide rather than unite, this flies in direct opposition to what Jesus taught. The object seems to be to hate, not love. Or is it jealousy?

The same attitude was promoted toward Jews in Europe. They were different and therefore did not belong.

So the attitude here is religious warfare. Catholics feel threatened so they are on the war path against Mormons!. Onward Christian Soldiers, fighting as to war! Reminds me of the Huguenot Calvinist movement in France, which resulted in the slaughter of 500,000 people. Also reminds me of the Northern Ireland violence between Catholics and Protestants.

Aren’t we all children of God? So Roman Catholicism loses a few converts: Big Deal! Is it the calling of all defenders of the faith to warn people who stray from the fold that they are being misled and that a concerted strident effort must be made to warn them of their folly? I doubt that Jesus would approve of this internecine bickering.

It makes a huge difference. Jesus Christ called us to follow Him, not a false image of Him as told by a false prophet.

So Jesus wasn’t about dividing when appropriate? In Matthew 10:34-36, He tells us “Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but a sword. For I have come to set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; and one’s enemies will be those of his household.” In Luke 12:49, He also says “I have come to set the earth on fire, and how I wish it were already blazing!” Jesus also cleansed the temple which upset a lot of people.

Jesus sure was a kumbaya type of guy wasn’t he?

 

[zaffiroborant]

So the attitude here is religious warfare. Catholics feel threatened so they are on the war path against Mormons!. Onward Christian Soldiers, fighting as to war! Reminds me of the Huguenot Calvinist movement in France, which resulted in the slaughter of 500,000 people. Also reminds me of the Northern Ireland violence between Catholics and Protestants.

Aren’t we all children of God? So Roman Catholicism loses a few converts: Big Deal! Is it the calling of all defenders of the faith to warn people who stray from the fold that they are being misled and that a concerted strident effort must be made to warn them of their folly? I doubt that Jesus would approve of this internecine bickering.

Where is the strident effort t warn others? This is a Catholic website, a passive thing, one has to seek it out and put forth the effort in order to be warned. Where are the Catholics knocking on doors telling people they are not Christians and need to be baptized? If it is so outrageous to hold a specific definition of baptism why is it not equally outrageous to hold that what others believe is an abomination? Why is it perfectly fine for the LDS church to send out 80,000 missionaries to tell people that their beliefs are an abomination and that they need to abandon their faith to join the LDS church? Why do you fail to denounce the hostile actions of the LDS church and harp on the quietly held belief of Catholics.

 

[Espero]

So the attitude here is religious warfare. Catholics feel threatened so they are on the war path against Mormons!. Onward Christian Soldiers, fighting as to war!..

Aren’t we all children of God? … I doubt that Jesus would approve of this internecine bickering.

Though to a certain extent I agree with you, you should know that you probably won’t change anyone’s view over if Mormons are truly Christian. I’ve personally never found threads that question someone’s religion fruitful.

 

[iepuras]

I know that it isn’t important to you, but it is important to know what Truth is. Mormons used
to, as has been said here, differentiate themselves from Christians, not identify themselves
as Christians, because they knew well the differences. Now today they do call themselves
Christians. Why? To pull real Christians away from the Cross and into their temples.

If I may borrow a line from Star Wars, “IT’S A TRAP!” (You have to imagine me with a squid
head). Christians who are seeking may bump into a missionary or do very limited research
on Mormonism, find it attractive, good family values, family in heaven, and how it identifies
itself as ‘Christian.’ It all starts very sounding Christian-like, then it only gets more strange
along the way, water isn’t immediately boiling, but slowly heats up.

It is therefore necessary to fervently express the truth that Mormonism is not Christianity
and that it will lead people away from the presence of God and Christ FOREVER !!! That
is really the main purpose here in revealing Mormonism for what it really is.

It so does not oppose what Jesus taught. Embracing religions that teach contrary
to what Christianity is and what Jesus taught WOULD BE opposing not only what
Jesus taught, but Jesus Himself, Alpha and Omega sir !

The point of it all is not to alienate or attack the Mormons, but MormonISM,
for it stands as a threat against the entire Christian Community around the
world. They are already building a temple in Rome, and despite doctrinally
having disdain for the Cross, it is rumored that their new temple will bear
crosses in an attempt to draw in the Roman Catholics.

This is spiritual warfare, a battle of the faiths, and serious true Christians will not let the
Mormons lead souls away from Christ Jesus without a fight. No, not talking physical vi-
olence, give me a break, for our weapon is not the sword, but the Word of God.

Yes, the LDS church has made the door to the Rome temple to appear to have a cross. I cannot seem to find a closer image, but apparently, the cross is more easily visible from a distance and is not clearly a cross up close. This is indicative of the deception that the LDS church appears Christian from a distance, but up close, it is not.

 

[eddie_too]

i think most many, if not most, mormons believe they are following Jesus Christ.

most of these faithful mormons know very little about the differences between historical christians and themselves.

if it grates on you to call mormons christians, at least give them some respect and acknowledge that they are, at least, imaginary-christians, meaning that they believe they follow Jesus Christ even though the Jesus Christ they follow has never existed but is completely a figment of joseph smith and subsequent prophets’ imaginations.

 

[TexanKnight]

then they do not believe their prophet…

Gordon Hinckley:
‘No, I don’t. The traditional Christ of whom they speak is not the Christ of whom I speak. For the Christ of whom I speak has been revealed in this Dispensation of the Fullness of Times. He, together with His Father, appeared to the boy Joseph Smith in the year 1820, and when Joseph left the grove that day, he knew more of the nature of God than all the learned ministers of the gospel of the ages‘”

“As a Church we have critics, many of them. They say we do not believe in the traditional Christ of Christianity. There is some substance to what they say” (Ensign, May, 2002, p. 90).

 

[twopekinguys]

Yes, the LDS church has made the door to the Rome temple to appear to have a cross. I cannot seem to find a closer image, but apparently, the cross is more easily visible from a distance and is not clearly a cross up close. This is indicative of the deception that the LDS church appears Christian from a distance, but up close, it is not.

Excellent statement, very well put.

 

[catholic-rcia]

This is a stupid way to act. When I was a kid, I went to a very cosmopolitan middle school. There were Catholics, Lutherans, Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, Buddhists, Taoists, Shintoists, and Confucianists, and nobody paid any mind to the differences. There were also Italians, Germans, Portuguese, African-Americans, Hispanics, Scots/Irish from Arkansas, kids of mixed Native American/Caucasian, Filipinos, Chinese, and Japanese, and nobody paid any mind to the differences.

To shun anybody because of differences is stupid. This harks to the Amish and Mennonites and their shunning of the “English”.

When a person tells you that Catholics and Protestants are an abomination in Gods eyes you have to tell them, this is not true. You have to make a stand for them. You have to show them the love of Christ, his forgiving nature, His love for all of His Children. If its a Mormon you need to speak about the Crucifixion, speak about why we have a Crucifix front and center in our Churches, in our lives in our souls. That when we sin today we help in the one Crucifixion of Jesus, we play a part. This is the key to understanding true forgiveness. Who exactly has been forgiven. This is the road to the Glorious resurrection. This is The Catholic Church. My name is Rich and I was baptized Catholic in 1999 in Logan Utah.
In Christ

 

[meltzerboy]

They believe that God used to be a man on another planet, and became a god by living a good Mormon life. People who live good Mormon lives can have “eternal progression” and become gods someday.

Do Mormons still believe in the ‘eternal progression’ idea? And aren’t the beliefs of the LDS Church slightly different from the beliefs of other Mormons?

 

[Judas_Thaddeus]

Do Mormons still believe in the ‘eternal progression’ idea? And aren’t the beliefs of the LDS Church slightly different from the beliefs of other Mormons?

Oh no, I’m not sure about the lesser known sects of Mormonism, but the
LDS Church in particular still holds on to that blasphemous couplet:
As man is, God once was,
As God is, Man may become.
What do you think is up with their temples?

FLDS still hold on to that couplet,
Not sure about the RLDS, but yea
the Law of Eternal Progression is
totally Mormon. You didn’t think
otherwise, did you?
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