Are most Episcopalians the radical liberal type or no?

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I do believe I’ve talked myself into trying out the Episcopal Church in my new town where I moved. 👍
 
Country_Gal said:
A summation of my difficulty in returning to the RCC:shrug:
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Mirrors my difficulty in doing the same thing. And that’s in regard to all church, not just the RCC.

Unless I could find one like in Dibley…
 
My niece’s father-in-law was the Bishop of, I believe, the largest Episcopal Diocese and he did not believe in the Resurrection of Christ.

Attending only one or two TEC parishes doesn’t tell the story of what has happened in the Episcopal church.

If one were to go to Virtue On Line, which is for Anglicans one would see how much TEC has become unregconizable in the past 30 years.

Of course there are Catholics who don’t like rules, or beliefs that interfere with their life style and are comfortable with the liturgy in an Episcopal church. There are no rules or requirements to believe any doctrines. Being a Catholic is difficult and society in general today looks for the easy way to live their lives. My concern is that Christ Himself said that the road to Heaven is narrow, so what will be the end result for those who don’t follow the narrow road?

Of course there are many members of TEC who stay, praying that their church will return to a more orthodox belief, however, at some time many understand that this is not a reality.

As a former member of TEC, I see the reasons for many of the rules the Catholic Church has, i.e. birth control, attending Mass each Sunday, which the Church has taught since the beginning, these beliefs are found in the Bible and Tradition, not just made up by man.

Also the Church has failed to teach the Faith to so many Catholics and the reason for the teachings, that many Catholics don’t know their faith, which is a sad situation. Hopefully this will change.

Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary

Bernadette
 
Country_Gal said:
Someone here pulled up a colorful picture of a female priest.
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If you’re refering to this person:



That’s The Most Rev. Dr. Katharine Jefferts Schori - She’s the presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church.

Also, I had a watch just like hers in 5th grade. It was fun trying to get the stopwatch to end at exactly at one second. :cool:
 
brjoseph said:
I must say, that’s an interesting question when asked by a person whose screen name is the Eddic Asatru name for Odin. Is it safe to assume you’re not a Catholic?
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Christian. I just find Norse mythology interesting.
 
Country_Gal said:
So true. I’ve worshiped with them, they seems like fairly Conservative little old ladies, for the most part. The little Parish I have gone to does a lot of good works.

Ex-Catholics drawn to them usually don’t like some of the rigid Catholic rules like forbidding birth control, mandating weekly Church attendance, keeping in place a strict, all male hierarchy, labeling common sexual practices, such as masturbation, mortal sins. The Episcopal Church rejects those things while still maintaining a rich liturgical life.
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The irony is that Episcopalians will welcome Catholics fleeing the “repressive” Catholic hierarchy, but if conservative/traditional Episcopalians voice any dissent against the pro-abortion, pro-feminazi, pro-LGBTQ, pro-interfaith/universalist agenda then the full powers of the denominational machine will be utilized to insure that such orthodox voices are marginalized and possibly even forced out.
 
ltwin said:
The irony is that Episcopalians will welcome Catholics fleeing the “repressive” Catholic hierarchy, but if conservative/traditional Episcopalians voice any dissent against the pro-abortion, pro-feminazi, pro-LGBTQ, pro-interfaith/universalist agenda then the full powers of the denominational machine will be utilized to insure that such orthodox voices are marginalized and possibly even forced out.
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Oftentimes liberal tolerance is neither truly liberal nor truly tolerant. It’s a shame, really…
 
yes, I went to the website of the local Episcopal Church, and right away there was a link to the Liturgical Rites for same sex marriage.

I’m no big anti-gay person, but not too comfortable with going to a church that pushes that.

I voted for legal gay marriage because I believe that people should haver a right to do something I disagree with, not because I think two men can actually have a sacramental union.
 
I must object to all the stereotyping in this thread. Although I am an Orthodox Christian now, I was once a member of an Episcopal parish. And have kept in touch.

There are a great many of orthodox Episcopal churches. I always went to orthodox Episcopal churches and in this diocese all are orthodox AFAIK. The rector of my former parish is very conservative and orthodox, he graduated from Nashotah seminary a very conservative anglo-catholic and orthodox seminary.

You guys are judging by the most extreme liberal parishes and dioceses in in existence and theologians. But not every bishop/theologian is a Spong who is no longer a bishop anymore.

The diocese of Northwest Texas will never have a female bishop. And the parish of Saint Nicholas will never have a female Rector, guaranteed.

Same sex “weddings” are forbidden in this diocese as well.
 
EvangelCatholic said:
The typical Episcopalian goes to Mass, confesses his/her sins, receives absolution, venerates Christ in the holy Sacrament and receives holy Communion. So how do they differ from other Christians?
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They are the same as any other protestant religion. They differ from the catholic church because they do not have valid sacraments.
 
andrewstx said:
I must object to all the stereotyping in this thread.
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I certainly understand - that why I prefaced my remarks that they were only for the Pacific NW. The Seattle area has been hard for all orthodox christian groups - Catholics too have had a hard time here.
I always went to orthodox Episcopal churches and in this diocese all are orthodox AFAIK.
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That makes me happy to hear - many of our churches I’m afraid will have to be content with not being the drivers of the culture and become apart from the culture.
 
Washington and Oregon, the most un-churched states in the Union.😦
 
IgnatianPhilo said:
I’m curious as to know your opinion on Spong who denies the real ressurection of Jesus Christ and is seemingly still in full communion with the Episcopal church. Does that not draw the line? Are such beliefs common in the episcopal church?
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Such opinions are rare-Bishop Spong was essentially retired from active ministry - I agree fully with the principles in the Nicene Creed as do the overwhelming majority of members of ECUSA

Without the Resurrection there would be no Christianity-

I think that Spong is wrong-I respect his right to make his arguements-

We do not get “charged up” over this-haven’t burned anyone at the Stake in a few centuries:cool:
 
nitesnake said:
They are the same as any other protestant religion. They differ from the catholic church because they do not have valid sacraments.
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Not really-we consider ourselves the via media-

The keywords should be in my opinion- even the RC Church accepts Episcopal CHurch baptisms-We disagree with your comment on Holy Orders and the Eucharist-

The Pope is not our Leader-for the Roman Catholic-the Pope says and it is “true” -we recognize the Pope as a Holy Man of wisdom and kindness (Pope Francis) but he is not infallible to us and wrong on Holy Orders-when considered from our viewpoint

We feel all Christain Churches are involved in God’s work
 
I am Episcopalian, but not a radical liberal one. I side with conservatives on some things, and with liberals on others, depending on the issue.

I do not care for Spong. I’m more on N.T. Wright’s wavelength, but with a little Brian McLaren and Rob Bell mixed in.
 
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