Are most people going to Hell?

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expectthebest said:
Good explanations. You have given me food for thought.
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I can’t take credit for that explanation. I can only hope I did a reasonable job relaying what I learned years ago from a series of lectures on the book of Hebrews from Scott Hahn.
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We still must make the assumption that the writer is in fact referring to missing Mass as a sin in order to take this interpretation.

We must also make the assumption that the writer, by using the word habit, is referring to missing Mass even once. He could have just as easily been referring to a habit of missing Mass often. Maybe he is not referring to an occasional miss but the habit of missing often.

When I said that all sin will lead to hell, I meant that submercing oneself in venial sin will eventually lead us to mortal sin which will lead us to hell. The key word is lead.

Basically, the passage seems vague enough that we can’t really know for sure what the writer meant.
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I can only say that when I heard the explanation being developed by Scott, well,…:newidea: I had one of those AH HA moments.
 
CentralFLJames said:
So, was it the obligation of Sunday worship that “the East” objected to or was it just the authority of Rome that has always been in place since St. Peter’s time that “the East” objected to?
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Instead of sarcastic sniping, if you would like to discuss the Eastern Orthodox Church, start a new thread. If you want to discuss the Eastern Catholic Church, there is a separate forum.
 
Mickey said:
Instead of sarcastic sniping, if you would like to discuss the Eastern Orthodox Church, start a new thread. If you want to discuss the Eastern Catholic Church, there is a separate forum.
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What “East” are your talking about when you pontificate what the east objects to or does not differentiate and why are you not discussing in a seperate thread or forum area? Does hell have a new section with a sign that says “Welcome to East-Hell - there is still no hope to be found herein but the rules are different here.”? 🤷

James
 
Mickey said:
A prodigious, spectacular, staggering, awe-inspiring, bewildering, model of charity.
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Mystery is not without company and Orthodoxy is well known for its royal and rich entrapments and ritual embellishments - indeed the best holy smoke and flowery incense this side of heaven.

I’d love to see what flattery you can cast for a friend. Is over indulging one’s senses or sense of moderation a sin in “the East”? 😉

Pax,
James
p.s. in self imposed timeout in the corner…
 
expectthebest said:
Yes and no. I’ve heard this many times and it doesn’t make sense to me either. I would say that if one really loves God, he wouldn’t sin at all. Not just missing a Mass once in a while. Many give much more than one hour to God per week but if they miss that hour on Sunday, they are in big trouble. Since it is a mortal sin to miss Mass, I would say that many, including myself much of the time, go to Mass out of love for ourselves and our infinite souls rather then the love of God. If the teaching on missing Mass was not so strict, especially to those of us who are scruplulous, we might of the oportuntity to say "I’m going to Mass today becasue I love God and want to spend time with him. Not because I’ll lose my immortal soul if I don’t.

Again, not being argumentative here. I’m trying to learn and I’m sure there will be posts to help show me another view.
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expectthebest, I think that the Church teaching is so strict on this is because too many non-scrupulous Catholics might start skipping mass more often that they do now and when one starts missing mass they can easily be pulled away from their faith and pulled more towards worldly things. I myself love to go to mass so that I can receive Jesus in the Eucharist and have that intimate time with Him! You can’t keep me away from the holy sacrifice of the mass. I think the majority of people who think it is an obligation have never been taught what is really going on at the mass.
 
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