Are Muslims okay with Muhammed actions?

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Muslim_Woman said:
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

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All Prophets (peace be them all ) were Jews ? Does it mean Jews have monopoly over the mercy of Lord of the Worlds ? God created world & heavens Only for Jews ?

If really this is correct , then why your loving Prince scolded them in NT ? :confused:
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The prophets were either Jewish or were Jewish in spirit as they would not have otherwise been chosen by God to be prophets, that being said, why did Mohammed attack Jews and Christians, the people of the book? Would he not be hurting people whom God recognized as is own, remember, we are all the children of the God of Abraham, right?
 
hamba2han said:
This is really a Catch-22 situation.

The detractors of Islam say that Muhammad (pbuh) cannot be a true Prophet because of all the “evil” that he did.

Yet, when we refer to what is written in the Bible, he did not do anything which none of the earlier Biblical prophets also did.

And so then, do all these “evil” deeds which Muhammad (pbuh) supposedly did disqualify him from being a true Prophet who has indeed brought a Message from the Lord to all of humankind.

Christians and Jews cannot have it both ways here.
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he is not a prophet for many reasons stated before. For proof he is not a prophet:

mohammed is not a prophet

Then from his life here - tell me what qualifies him to be a prophet. Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives and their “right hand possessions” (Quran 33:50) He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way. Muhammad was a narcissist like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.
 
the choices Mohammed makes, made me think of the Second Temptation (Luke’s account) which is the Third, in Matthew’s Gospel.
Luke 4: 5-8 - “and the devil, taking him [Jesus] up into a high mountain, showed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said unto him, All this power will I give thee, and the glory of them; for that is delivered unto me; and to whomsoever I will I give it. If thou therefore wilt worship me, all shall be thine.” And Jesus answered, and said unto him, 'Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written [Deuteronomy 6: 13 - thou shalt fear the LORD thy God - NB - ‘LORD’ in the King James translation usually renders the Divine Name, YHWH] ‘Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve’.

Matthew 4: 8-10, “Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them, and saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. Then saith Jesus unto him, 'Get thee hence, Satan; for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.”

The Evil One offers Jesus absolute temporal power, imperium, IF he will ‘fall down and worship me [the Adversary]’. Jesus says No. Mohammed, on the other hand, essentially says Yes! Right on! and Mohammedans have been grovelling before the Evil One, the Adversary, ever since, selling their souls as slaves of allah, in order to obtain worldly power.

And to that devil’s bargain (which in fact is itself based on a flat-out lie, for according to Hebrew theology, it is YHWH who has the last word, raising up and casting down kings and empires, as we see in the story of Babel, and of the Exodus), other words from the Gospels apply: “what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?” (Matt 16: 26), or Mark 8: 37 - “For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?”, Luke 9: 23 - “for what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away”?

Sure, historically Mohammed and his imitators, worshipping that apotheosis of the raw brute Will to Power that is ‘allah’, have pursued - with ghastly singlemindedness and a wilful blaspheming of every ethical limit - temporal power and dominion, and have obtained it…and they have lost their own souls, as we see demonstrated by all sorts of things, including the attitudes and practices revealed in the posted article.
 
BRIT72 said:
Allah is the name of the pagan moon God, why are you so upset, are you thinking of becoming a muslim?
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No, just trying to save you from embarassing yourself but I guess it’s too late for that.

Trust me, Brit: Allah is just the Arabic word for God. Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians use it too when discussing God. It has no sectarian component.
 
hamba2han said:
On the subject of ‘Jihad’ by the earlier Prophets like Jesus and Moses (peace be upon them), kindly refer to this thread.

‘Jihad’ is a very profound concept folks and if Christians and Jews would only refer to… and actually believe what is written in their own Bible, then there is just no reason at all why they should be repelled by this noble word.
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And let us not forget what the muslims really believe about jihad and their own history of it.

If we really read this history of it - we would realize that the only people that aims for children are these jihadists. That have no problem with torturing children of unbelievers are jihadists. (read the part of the Jihad in India, and also a book, ‘Because They Hate’ has some of this in it too - and we all don’t want to forget how the jihadists aim for pizza parlors, chidren’s schools, etc in Israel!)

History of jihad speaks for itself and it is not nowhere near peaceful. there is also a book, ‘Legacy of Jihad’ that can be read.

Centrality of jihad in islam This one is a particularly good article that shows how evil is interpreted as being good and holy.

When a koran and other texts have jihad being mentioned as it should be violent over 95% of the time - this complete hogwash that jihad is anything other than a vile thing to do is just that - hogwash. And those ‘mainstream’, ‘moderate’, or ‘peaceful’ ones? How are they involved?.. by money (muslim charities), moral support (remember all those protests/riots for hamas this year? or the threatening/killing of Jews, and also by telling us jihad is a ‘neat thing’ which it is not!.
 
tomarin said:
No, just trying to save you from embarassing yourself but I guess it’s too late for that.

Trust me, Brit: Allah is just the Arabic word for God. Arabic-speaking Jews and Christians use it too when discussing God. It has no sectarian component.
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Whatever you say, it’s not worth arguing about.
 
I think it is time for me to answer the question of the thread i.e. “Are Muslims okay with Muhammed actions?”

And the answer is → YES, YES, YES… Muslims are A-OK with every action which the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did
 
R_not said:
And let us not forget what the muslims really believe about jihad and their own history of it.

If we really read this history of it - we would realize that the only people that aims for children are these jihadists. That have no problem with torturing children of unbelievers are jihadists. (read the part of the Jihad in India, and also a book, ‘Because They Hate’ has some of this in it too - and we all don’t want to forget how the jihadists aim for pizza parlors, chidren’s schools, etc in Israel!)

History of jihad speaks for itself and it is not nowhere near peaceful. there is also a book, ‘Legacy of Jihad’ that can be read.

Centrality of jihad in islam This one is a particularly good article that shows how evil is interpreted as being good and holy.

When a koran and other texts have jihad being mentioned as it should be violent over 95% of the time - this complete hogwash that jihad is anything other than a vile thing to do is just that - hogwash. And those ‘mainstream’, ‘moderate’, or ‘peaceful’ ones? How are they involved?.. by money (muslim charities), moral support (remember all those protests/riots for hamas this year? or the threatening/killing of Jews, and also by telling us jihad is a ‘neat thing’ which it is not!.
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Hey, how are you R_not?
 
hamba2han said:
I think it is time for me to answer the question of the thread i.e. “Are Muslims okay with Muhammed actions?”

And the answer is → YES, YES, YES… Muslims are A-OK with every action which the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did
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YES, YES, YES, I knew it. Thanks for confirming.
 
josie_L said:
Hey, how are you R_not?
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Thanks for asking, Josie. I am doing fine - I went to a tea party last week and couldn’t believe how many people there were. It was in Sacramento.

But, I have to take a rest from muslims - and their apologists - every so often. They tire me in their… well, I am not going to write that so let us just say… attempts at deceiving us as to what islam is all about.

I hope you are doing fine too and be well! 👍
 
In the name of Allah , Most Gracious, Most Merciful

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hamba2han said:
I think it is time for me to answer the question of the thread i.e. “Are Muslims okay with Muhammed actions?”

And the answer is → YES, YES, YES… Muslims are A-OK with every action which the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did
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R_not said:
Thanks for asking, Josie. I am doing fine - I went to a tea party last week and couldn’t believe how many people there were. It was in Sacramento.

But, I have to take a rest from muslims - and their apologists - every so often. They tire me in their… well, I am not going to write that so let us just say… attempts at deceiving us as to what islam is all about.

I hope you are doing fine too and be well! 👍
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Pretty good!! Nothing to exciting happening right now, but I will be coming to the States in 3 to 4 weeks, New York here I come (going to my cousin’s wedding, it’s going to be a big black tie affair).
 
hamba2han said:
On the subject of ‘Jihad’ by the earlier Prophets like Jesus and Moses (peace be upon them), kindly refer to this thread.

‘Jihad’ is a very profound concept folks and if Christians and Jews would only refer to… and actually believe what is written in their own Bible, then there is just no reason at all why they should be repelled by this noble word.
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Ephesians 5:16 “In addition to all this, take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming arrows of the evil one. Take the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God. And pray in the Spirit on all ocassions, with all kinds of prayers and requests. With this in mind, be alert and always keep praying for the saints.”

So, the sword (in the Bible) is represented as the word of God, not a literal sword to be used in the name of Allah for Jihad.
 
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