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. . . .sola (Koran) scriptura??
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meedo
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i am sorry i didnt quite understanhd the question!
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Genesis315
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Basically, do Muslims hold the Quran to be the sole rule of faith or do they have some sort of Tradition as well?
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meedo
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Muslims believe that the Quran is the word of God . The tradition of the prophet is an explanation for the word of God . We follow both.
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Thanks, but now I don’t understand.
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LuigiColetta
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So, like catholics they also follow tradition…
But I have met some muslims totally dismiss the hadiths completely (have a negative view of them in general) and hold only the Qur’an as the decisive word of God (which is similar to Sola Scriptura for christians)
If I made a mistake, please correct me, or if I didn’t mention something please add it…
Peace,
Luigi
They have Qur’an which they believe to be the actual “word of God” and the Hadiths, which are explanations (tradition) in properly explaining the Qur’an (these are specifically the accounts by followers of Muhammed who either explain Muhammed(pbuh) explanation of the Qur’an’s verses, or they add certain things Muhammed(pbuh) did, or said, or didn’t do or didn’t say)…but these are secondary to the Qur’an and some Hadiths are regarded higher than others(because of which follower wrote or recited them)…but as far as I see from the one muslim forum I am part of some muslims find the whole “hadith” thing confusing…not all, but a lot do. Confusing in the sense of “which hadith is ok to follow” what about one hadith contradicting another (of course one of them is correct, or they are not really contradicting each other), etc.
So, like catholics they also follow tradition…
But I have met some muslims totally dismiss the hadiths completely (have a negative view of them in general) and hold only the Qur’an as the decisive word of God (which is similar to Sola Scriptura for christians)
If I made a mistake, please correct me, or if I didn’t mention something please add it…
Peace,
Luigi
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Thanks for your attempt at answering Luigi.
Well, you are not wrong in stating that some “Muslims” hold the belief that the hadeeth are not accepted. However, the one thing that needs to be understood is that, from a correct Islamic perspective, that would be denying part of the revelation.
This is a slight difference perhaps between the Catholic view of “tradition” and your considering the hadeeths as tradition. From the Islamic perspective, hadeeths are not “tradition”; rather, they are part of the revelation. And when Muslims read that Allaah says, in the Quraan, that he will protect His revelation, we believe He is referring to both the Quraan and the ahaadeeth of Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam.
The closest thing to the Catholic concept of “tradition” would perhaps be the scholars implementation of these verses of the Quraan and the ahaadeeth.
So, in the same way that a “catholic” is not really a Catholic if he/she is sola scriptura, in this same manner, a “muslim” who rejects the ahaadeeth, is in actuality, rejecting the book of Allaah, the Quraan, which commands the believers to accept and implement the statements of Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam.
So in answering the original poster, No, Muslims are not “sola scriptura” if you are referring to scripture as the Quraan only.
Hope this helps.
Well, you are not wrong in stating that some “Muslims” hold the belief that the hadeeth are not accepted. However, the one thing that needs to be understood is that, from a correct Islamic perspective, that would be denying part of the revelation.
This is a slight difference perhaps between the Catholic view of “tradition” and your considering the hadeeths as tradition. From the Islamic perspective, hadeeths are not “tradition”; rather, they are part of the revelation. And when Muslims read that Allaah says, in the Quraan, that he will protect His revelation, we believe He is referring to both the Quraan and the ahaadeeth of Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam.
The closest thing to the Catholic concept of “tradition” would perhaps be the scholars implementation of these verses of the Quraan and the ahaadeeth.
So, in the same way that a “catholic” is not really a Catholic if he/she is sola scriptura, in this same manner, a “muslim” who rejects the ahaadeeth, is in actuality, rejecting the book of Allaah, the Quraan, which commands the believers to accept and implement the statements of Prophet Muhammad sallallaahu 'alayhe wa sallam.
So in answering the original poster, No, Muslims are not “sola scriptura” if you are referring to scripture as the Quraan only.
Hope this helps.
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LuigiColetta
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There’s a muslim I know that would say that christians don’t have the actual word of God, but the Qur’an is the word of God. The hadiths, he would say, would be compared to our bible. And the various church fathers to various Scholars of the Qur’an…
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Thanks for the thoughtful information.
Please forgive the simplistic questions, but. . . .
Is there a authoritative heirarchy and/or the equivelent to a bishop?
Does Islam have missionaries?
Is Quraan the preferred spelling instead of Koran?
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meedo
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Is there a authoritative heirarchy and/or the equivelent to a bishop?
There is no authoritative heirarchy in Islam . People varry according to level belief or faith or knowledge but at the end of the day no matter whatever the names you give them , They are judged according to the Qur’an and Sunnah ( Hadith or tradition of the Prophet PBUH). So names for us doesnt necessarily mean somthing.
Does Islam have missionaries?
depends on your deffinition of missionary
Is Quraan the preferred spelling instead of Koran?
It is spelled “Quran”
It is written “Qur’an”
Peace
There is no authoritative heirarchy in Islam . People varry according to level belief or faith or knowledge but at the end of the day no matter whatever the names you give them , They are judged according to the Qur’an and Sunnah ( Hadith or tradition of the Prophet PBUH). So names for us doesnt necessarily mean somthing.
Does Islam have missionaries?
depends on your deffinition of missionary
Is Quraan the preferred spelling instead of Koran?
It is spelled “Quran”
It is written “Qur’an”
Peace
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jcaz
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With regards to spelling, because the word Qur-aan is an arabic word, the spelling in English is really up to the translator.
In arabic, the first letter is the qaaf, which has the closest English equivalent of Q, not K.
The vollowing on the qaaf is a dhammah, which is equivalent to a U in the English language. There is no vowel on the raa (R), which is next.
So up till now, we have Qur.
the next letter is a hamza with an alif, which can be transliterated as “AA”. Then lastly we have the noon (N).
So this leaves us with Quraan. I do not like to write it like that, because some people pronounce it Qu Raan, when it should be Qur Aan. To fix this, some people write Qur’aan. I also do not like this, because the stroke ’ is typically used to imply that the letter following is an 'ayn.
Ideally, for complete correctness, I would write Qur-aan. Thus people would know to stop at the r and then begin pronouncing it again at the a. But this may be too detailed, and Allaah knows best.
In arabic, the first letter is the qaaf, which has the closest English equivalent of Q, not K.
The vollowing on the qaaf is a dhammah, which is equivalent to a U in the English language. There is no vowel on the raa (R), which is next.
So up till now, we have Qur.
the next letter is a hamza with an alif, which can be transliterated as “AA”. Then lastly we have the noon (N).
So this leaves us with Quraan. I do not like to write it like that, because some people pronounce it Qu Raan, when it should be Qur Aan. To fix this, some people write Qur’aan. I also do not like this, because the stroke ’ is typically used to imply that the letter following is an 'ayn.
Ideally, for complete correctness, I would write Qur-aan. Thus people would know to stop at the r and then begin pronouncing it again at the a. But this may be too detailed, and Allaah knows best.
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