Are non-Christian religions acceptable?

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Eddie18 said:
Well why don’t you break each quote down for us word for word and tell us the true meaning?
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LMFAOROTFL!

That is exactly what Fundamentalist Protestants do. That is NOT the Catholic way to read scripture. Please talk to your priest or spiritual advisor. You’ve picked up some heretical ways of thinking that you need to iron out. You sound EXACTLY like a Five Point Calvinist.
 
I really don’t understand your response here. You replied that the 6 quotes previously posted say God and Jesus shall judge. Of course God will judge, but you’ll notice the quotes also give the faithful clear instructions that they are to follow, such as:
  • “receive him not into the house nor say to him, God speed you. For he that saith unto him, God speed you, communicateth with his wicked works”
  • “let him be anathema” (banned)
  • “avoid them”
Scripture is very clear here in stating that Catholics are to have nothing to do with non-Christian religions.
That’s why the papal quotes say the same.
 
I assume you must be a newbie or recent convert. Asking you to point me to the meaning of something has nothing to do with Protestantism. The quotes, very clearly worded, say non-Christian religions are condemned and that the faithful must avoid them. You say I’m misinterpreting the quotes, but then you refuse to back up what you’re saying. You clearly don’t have an answer.

Then I provided quotes from past Popes that concur, and you simply dismiss them as a whole, claiming this is a Protestant tactic or whatever. A very weak response.

I am a lifelong Catholic and have had many Catholic teachers who received their Catholic training in the 1930s through 1950s, and ALL of them believed the same as I am saying. It’s common knowledge and everyone was taught this. If you know any Catholics that are in their 80s, go ask them yourself and you will see - that is what the Church taught. I have provided quotes and references to papal encyclicals to support what I’m saying, and you have not provided anything.
 
Eddie18 said:
you have not provided anything.
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Lifetime Catholic here, too. And quite well educated. I provided you with a link to Nostra aetate, several times, and with advice to speak to your pastor or spiritual advisor. There is nothing more I can do. Good luck!
 
Eddie18 said:
I really don’t understand your response here. You replied that the 6 quotes previously posted say God and Jesus shall judge. Of course God will judge, but you’ll notice the quotes also give the faithful clear instructions that they are to follow, such as:
  • “receive him not into the house nor say to him, God speed you. For he that saith unto him, God speed you, communicateth with his wicked works”
  • “let him be anathema” (banned)
  • “avoid them”
Scripture is very clear here in stating that Catholics are to have nothing to do with non-Christian religions.
That’s why the papal quotes say the same.
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However, the CCC does not.
 
StAugustine said:
Catholic tradition is a bit more comprehensive than the compilation of a catechism from 1992. How about the catechism from 1990? But that would be the Roman Catechism. And if you read the intro of the CCC it clearly says it does not abrogate any currently approved catechism.
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Then I guess the whole Church is in heresy.

That’s not how this works. Good grief.
 
I agree. It’s apparent that the CCC differs from Scripture on this.That’s frightening!
 
No, what you consistently insist just isn’t accurate. In short, you’re majorly wrong.

Attempting to trap me in that sort of nonsense really isn’t going to work.

If you are indeed Catholic, you need to talk to a priest.
 
Pardon me, but I was told the Golden Rule wasn’t in the Bible. Can you site address, please.
Thank you
God bless
 
Matthew 7:12 and Luke 6:31.

It’s also expressed slightly differently in Tobit and Sirach.
 
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We were created by God to Love Him. We are not to place anything before Him.
The 12 commandments are important and the LAST SUPPER
If, we passionately, love Him. That’s the key. Love & serving Him.
Bickering among individual smaller issues, won’t matter.
JOHN 3:16.
Acts 2:38-39
38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”
Acts 16:31
31 They told him, ‘Become a believer in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, and your household too.’
John 3:
Is it possible to go back into the womb again and be born?’ … I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born through water and the Spirit;.

I’m sure, there are other verses that hold the real meat of scripture that I’ve not listed. I think these are the big ones
IN CHRIST’S LOVE
TWEEDLEALICE
 
Thank you for responding. Curious, why I was misinformed. We all think we are full of correct knowledge and are humbled by our ignorance.
God bless all fools for Christ, of which I am a member.
Tweedlealice
 
tweedlealice said:
Thank you for responding. Curious, why I was misinformed. We all think we are full of correct knowledge and are humbled by our ignorance.
God bless all fools for Christ, of which I am a member.
Tweedlealice
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I think I’ve heard people say that myself, though, the more I thought about it. I don’t know where people get some of this stuff either.
 
No, it means any interpretation of the Catechism that leads to a departure of prior teaching is false. Therefore your interpretation that the catechism is referencing objective reality is false. It is, again, possible that there is a subjective congruity in intent (we both will to be monotheists) but no objective congruity in fact (yet one brand of monotheism is heretical and arbitrary, while the other is pure and good).

Again, avoid the extreme conclusions and don’t make one book the be all and end all. The CCC was written primarily for bishops in aiding them in compiling local catechisms. And remember how tradition works- through time. And the unanimous consent of the fathers, etc.

This reliance solely upon the CCC smacks of Protestant reliance upon scripture alone. Both are good, neither sufficient apart from tradition.
 
StAugustine said:
No, it means any interpretation of the Catechism that leads to a departure of prior teaching is false. Therefore your interpretation that the catechism is referencing objective reality is false.
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Then you better call my RCIA instructors, the deacons, the priests.

Accusing me of heresy is a bit much, don’t you think? Even if it’s veiled?
StAugustine said:
This reliance solely upon the CCC smacks of Protestant reliance upon scripture alone. Both are good, neither sufficient apart from tradition.
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I’m not relying on the CCC alone, I’m using it as a source to refute. I’m not sola catechisma.

Pope Francis would also agree…but wait a minute, I think I can form a theory regarding your whole presentation that just might answer my questions, tying in the RCC, the Pope, and what you’ve said here. Just a theory.
 
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Appealing to the authority of the magisterium is Protestant? Boy is that a stretch! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Maybe once upon a time, the worship of a Trinitarian G-d would have been considered idolatry according to Judaism. But it is no longer regarded as such by most Jews. Jews are permitted to enter a church just as they were always permitted to enter a mosque. Of course there are still certain Fundamentalist Jews who do not recognize, or do not want to understand, that the Trinity is not the worship of more than one god. But such fundamentalist people exist in virtually all religions, and there is probably nothing that is going to change their mind, whether the argument is based on reason, faith, or even their own religion.
 
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It seems to me the Church has changed its teaching regarding non-Christian religions. Perhaps changed is too strong a word, so let us say re-interpreted. I don’t believe Catholicism “condemns,” as you put it, non-Christian religions, based on certain words I have heard repeatedly from contemporary Popes, cardinals, bishops, priests in general. Fathers of the Church in the distant and even more recent past have been more severe in their words about non-Christian religions. Instead of using terminology such as “not the full truth” or “shadows” of the truth, they simply called such religions false or even evil. Whether one wants to admit it or not, I don’t think present-day Catholics are being taught exactly the same things that older Catholics had been taught regarding other religions. I am not Catholic or Christian, but I have a lot of older friends who are, and they tell me there has been a shift toward more tolerance of non-Catholics and their religions.
 
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