Are non-Christian religions acceptable?

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The group think from the neo-modernists here is really unbelievable. Where is submission of the will to tradition?
 
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This is a discussion forum where people discuss things, and you are here with that same interest obviously. I’ve presented undeniable facts here that should be of serious interest to all Catholics. Why not give your take on the situation? Or are you one of the ones that is deciding to look the other way?
 
I’m interested in people saying what they mean and not dancing around the issue. Be honest or don’t waste my time.
 
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Or are you one of the ones that is deciding to look the other way?
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It’s not a matter of anyone looking the other way. It’s rather a matter of not seeing what you think you see where you are pointing to. You’re pointing to an “elephant in the room”, and to those with a deeper understanding of Catholic theology and Church history, it’s as if you were a drunk pointing to an imaginary pink elephant.
 
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I’m interested in people saying what they mean and not dancing around the issue. Be honest or don’t waste my time.
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Indeed. If you are claiming that the Church is teaching heresy, there is absolutely no point in further discussion.
 
I find people that are being coy about what they’re really saying to be particularly annoying.
 
My gosh, I feel like I just entered the twilight zone!

“As Sodom and Gomorrah, and the neighboring cities, in like manner, having given themselves to fornication, and going after other flesh, were made an example, suffering the punishment of eternal fire” Jude 1: 7

Scripture says you go to hell for being gay! God loves us all, but if we use our free will to mortally offend Him, Scripture says we will be damned for it. Are you really going to argue against Scripture here for all to see?

If I am misinterpreting the above verse, please point me to the correct right meaning.
 
I never said the Church fell into heresy because the church cannot. That’s the purpose for this discussion!
 
No one is forcing you to read this thread. Why not give your take on the dilemma?
 
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If I am misinterpreting the above verse, please point me to the correct right meaning.
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Yes, and I’ll let Cadinal Dolan explain it to you in his statement today:

https://cruxnow.com/church-in-the-u...onservative-orthodox-with-gay-abuse-survivor/

You’re arguing against the thousands of Bishops, priests, theologians, scholars and several popes who have worked on the documents of Vatican II and the CCC. I would find it very difficult to believe that you know more about Catholic teaching than any one of them, never mind all of them combined.
 
And YOU are arguing against Scripture. Tell me, is Scripture wrong on this?
 
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And YOU are arguing against Scripture. Tell me, is Scripture wrong on this?
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I am not. Because, unlike you, I am not reading Scripture like a Fundamentalist Protestant. Nor is Cardinal Dolan, or Pope Francis.

You’re trying to play baseball on a football field.
 
You are cornered BIG time on this issue. Scripture cannot be challenged and every Catholic knows it. Scripture came FIRST, so if it anyone deviates from it, they cannot possibly represent the Catholic Church.
 
When I came first came on Catholic Answers Forum, I was actually sympathetic to the Traditionalists. However, dealing with Trads on this forum like the ones present in this thread has caused me to lose every bit of that sympathy. It’s a crying shame too, as I have no use for the Modernist heresy that’s all too common around here. Congratulate yourselves: You’ve managed to turn a potential ally into someone who’d rather gouge his eyes out than make common cause with you.
 
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I was actually sympathetic to the Traditionalists. However, dealing with Trads on this forum like the ones present in this thread has caused me to lose every bit of that sympathy.
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I came here to learn more about how trads think, and I’ve come to the same conclusion. It appears to me that they are actually crypto-Calvinists, or crypto-Jansenists. In spite of the incense, I don’t see anything particularly Catholic in their way of thinking.

While not that sympathetic to them before, the Trads I have met on this forum, with few exceptions, have managed turn me into someone, who, as you have put it more elegantly than I ever could, would “rather gouge his eyes out than make common cause” with them.
 
In many ways they ARE the Catholic version of Calvinists (they’re a kind of hyper-Thomist); and yes, Jansenism has come to mind.
 
You guys obviously need to read up on the Arian heresy. The majority of the Church fell for it, so many fell for it in fact that St. Athanasius was quoted as saying, “they have the buildings, but we have the faith”

He is also well-known for the following quote:

“Thus, the more violently they (the Arians) try to occupy the places of worship, the more they separate themselves from the Church. They claim that they represent the Church; but in reality, they are the ones who are expelling themselves from it and going astray. Even if Catholics faithful to Tradition are reduced to a handful, they are the ones who are the true Church of Jesus Christ.”

This confirms that the true Church of Christ is represented in those who are faithful to tradition. The others who aren’t, though they may occupy the buildings, do not represent the Church. No need to shoot the messenger - this is a quote from the life of St. Athanasius. And as you know, a few years later the Arians were condemned, showing St. Athanasius was correct.
 
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@Eddie18 Do you believe same sex attraction is a sin? Or homosexual acts are a sin?
 
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